Bogans excused from the team indefinitely for personal reasons

[sed522002]

Jessica Camerato ‏@JCameratoNBA
Celtics excused Keith Bogans from the team indefinitely for personal reasons. He will remain under contract.

Hope everything is ok with him.

[rondohondo]

Hope everything turns out ok for bogans. Doesn't really effect anything on the court .

[Smokeeye123]

Beat me to the thread. Hope everything is ok...

[Tr1boy]

Either its a real issue (which i hope he is ok then), and i hate to assume, but it could be the same type of personal reasons that Bynum and now Miller is going through.

Bogans was really mad about lack of playing time. He prob thought he was working as hard as anybody, has been playing in the league a long time and wants to also be able to have a job next year. He can't , though if he doesn't play. (either way nobody will want him but at least if he plays he has a chance)

So what might of happened is instead of getting mad and effecting others just going away or he went beserk on Stevens, then was told by Ainge to go away quietly. 

Danny should of just waived him in the first place.

[Rick Robeys Return]

Assuming it is a playing time issue I have two questions (and if not, I hope all is ok in personal life!):

1.  Is there any downside to waiving him after the trade deadline? I can understand why DA wouldnt do it earlier in the season or immediately, as you never know about injuries and you may want him as an expiring trade chip, but with Rondo's return and after Feb 15, are there any implications?

2. If DA negotiates a buy-out, as opposed to just waiving him, do we save the difference for luxury tax purposes? Similarly, if he is waived and picked up by another team for the rest of the season, do we get any tax relief?

[Humble G]

This is stupid.....I feel like they shoulda just let him play every now and again...not like we are winning a lot anyways. Brooks should get some pt too.....bogans deserved a few mins  10or so every 8 or so games.....I guess this is why the nba upsets me at times

[SHAQATTACK]

Maybe this is a sure sign Rondo is returning ,  and he sees Lee is gone, and  new guy playing well........

[timobusa]

I hope Wallace excuses himself too, then agrees a buy out or something. (if that's even possible)
or requests a trade or something. haha.

i love the guy, but his contract is ridiculous

[GreenWarrior]

isn't this what darko milicic and leandro Barbosa did last yr.?

[LooseCannon]

Assuming it is a playing time issue I have two questions (and if not, I hope all is ok in personal life!):

1.  Is there any downside to waiving him after the trade deadline? I can understand why DA wouldnt do it earlier in the season or immediately, as you never know about injuries and you may want him as an expiring trade chip, but with Rondo's return and after Feb 15, are there any implications?

2. If DA negotiates a buy-out, as opposed to just waiving him, do we save the difference for luxury tax purposes? Similarly, if he is waived and picked up by another team for the rest of the season, do we get any tax relief?

The first year of the contract for a player acquired via sign-and-trade must be guaranteed for the first season.  I think this is something that cannot be negotiated (since it would make for easy salary cap circumvention).  Since the Celtics do not have a full roster, they do not benefit that much from gaining an empty roster spot by waiving someone with a guaranteed contract. 

The Celtics are under the luxury tax threshold right now, so there is no tax relief to be gained by waiving him.

If he is waived, the Celtics are on the hook for the guaranteed portion of his contract, unless someone claims him (which no one will do).

Basically, waiving him doesn't save any money, doesn't open up a roster spot for another player, and gets rid of a potentially useful asset.

If Bogans was being a team cancer complaining about playing time, the Celtics would probably find a way to suspend him for violating team rules or conduct detrimental to the team and tell him to stay home until traded (or waived before he gets paid under the second year of his contract, should no trade be available).

[Quetzalcoatl]

I clicked "expand" on every tweet talking about this and nobody was even speculating on a reason.  I wonder what happened 

[pokeKingCurtis]

If Bogans was being a team cancer complaining about playing time, the Celtics would probably find a way to suspend him for violating team rules or conduct detrimental to the team and tell him to stay home until traded (or waived before he gets paid under the second year of his contract, should no trade be available).

Sounds like Wallace.

[Roy H.]

Assuming it is a playing time issue I have two questions (and if not, I hope all is ok in personal life!):

1.  Is there any downside to waiving him after the trade deadline? I can understand why DA wouldnt do it earlier in the season or immediately, as you never know about injuries and you may want him as an expiring trade chip, but with Rondo's return and after Feb 15, are there any implications?

2. If DA negotiates a buy-out, as opposed to just waiving him, do we save the difference for luxury tax purposes? Similarly, if he is waived and picked up by another team for the rest of the season, do we get any tax relief?

The first year of the contract for a player acquired via sign-and-trade must be guaranteed for the first season.  I think this is something that cannot be negotiated (since it would make for easy salary cap circumvention).  Since the Celtics do not have a full roster, they do not benefit that much from gaining an empty roster spot by waiving someone with a guaranteed contract. 

The Celtics are under the luxury tax threshold right now, so there is no tax relief to be gained by waiving him.

If he is waived, the Celtics are on the hook for the guaranteed portion of his contract, unless someone claims him (which no one will do).

Basically, waiving him doesn't save any money, doesn't open up a roster spot for another player, and gets rid of a potentially useful asset.

If Bogans was being a team cancer complaining about playing time, the Celtics would probably find a way to suspend him for violating team rules or conduct detrimental to the team and tell him to stay home until traded (or waived before he gets paid under the second year of his contract, should no trade be available).

Yeah, as you mentioned, it doesn't make a lot of sense to waive Bogans, because his contract becomes a tradeable asset next season.  A non-guaranteed contract is a really nice chip in trade discussions.

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

@Green Warrior Darko had legit personal reasons (sick mother) and Leandro got traded after suffering a torn ACL.

[Sievers81]

isn't this what darko milicic and leandro Barbosa did last yr.?

Pretty sure Darko did but Barbosa tore his ACL and was traded away to Washington soon after.