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Humphires being showcased? idea
« on: January 11, 2014, 07:42:26 AM »

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I realize that there are a lot of reasons that Humphries is seeing an up kick in his minutes. Mainly the teams over all play and Sully's struggles with hand injury.

But I cant help but wonder if this is driven by DA wanting to showcase him (particularly to west coast teams). Him playing allows a cap conscience contender to trade for him and possibly cut longer term $$ while adding a valuable rotation player.
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2014, 08:05:51 AM »

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I don't think there's a huge conspiracy and shady business. Hump is looking good 'cos Brad Stevens is a bawss. And Hump is a bawss.

That's the thing with this season. Those who were FREAKING OUT over wins (hell, one guy even called for Ainge's head) can take solace in the fact that Avery Bradley is playing up his value. Hump is playing up his value. Bass is playing up his value. Sully is playing up his value. Crawford is playing up his value...etc.

Lee managed to get traded as a result of this season (good for everyone, really).

Whether their value comes in the form of a trade or is realized in their future with the Celtics, it's a positive.

Crawford had LITERALLY NO VALUE at the beginning of this season. Hump's value was an expiring contract. Lee certainly had less value at the start of the season compared to when he got traded.

Just by letting them play and not worrying, our misfits are becoming valuable chips.

That's why there's just no way we could lose this season. 10 game losing streak? Tankers rejoice. Lottery pick. Win "too much"? Someone's looking good.

All this because Brad Stevens is a bawss. And Ainge is a bawss for hiring Stevens.

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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2014, 08:23:45 AM »

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I don't really believe in "showcasing" a veteran player.

Most GM's are well informed on the type of player Hump, Bass, Crawford, ect are and what they would get trading for them. These players games are fairly well known and a hot month with big minutes likely isn't going to change a GM's mind.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2014, 08:26:26 AM »

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The novelty of giving playing time to a player who is playing well...

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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2014, 08:30:49 AM »

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It could be the case, I have always thought he was the most athletic of our fours and fives excluding Green.   Glad to see him doing well.   


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you are 100% correct he's being showcased.
Sully's getting rest and I think they're taking it easy on Olynyk's body and letting him repair a bit, but Humphries is getting some burn to show teams that he is still a good rebounder and solid rotational big man.

I don't think he'd necessarily be taken by teams needing a veteran PF for the playoffs off the bench, rather I think he'd be traded for another contract of the same portion +1 year and we'd have a pick+young asset coming back. Other option is as you said, moving long term salary for a decent big. Good example off the top of my head would be Asik+Montejunas for Humphries and Crawford.(If Bass has found a new home).
Potential scenario with Chicago-who I'm not sure are tanking and would rather show their toughness in the playoffs to future free agents...

Boston sends:
Humphries
Bogans

Chicago sends:
Boozer
Charlotte 2014 first round pick (1-10 protected)+Tony Snell.

This gives them the caproom to go after Carmelo or Bosh next year and they get two veterans with Humphries backing up Gibson off the bench. They didn't want to spend 15 million on Deng but they'll want another superstar to both old the fort while Rose is out rehabbing again, and then when Rose returns. Bosh would be perfect. Carmelo wouldn't be the best but they'll be free agent players with that base +Rose coming back.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2014, 09:31:40 AM »

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you are 100% correct he's being showcased.
Sully's getting rest and I think they're taking it easy on Olynyk's body and letting him repair a bit, but Humphries is getting some burn to show teams that he is still a good rebounder and solid rotational big man.

I don't think he'd necessarily be taken by teams needing a veteran PF for the playoffs off the bench, rather I think he'd be traded for another contract of the same portion +1 year and we'd have a pick+young asset coming back. Other option is as you said, moving long term salary for a decent big. Good example off the top of my head would be Asik+Montejunas for Humphries and Crawford.(If Bass has found a new home).
Potential scenario with Chicago-who I'm not sure are tanking and would rather show their toughness in the playoffs to future free agents...

Boston sends:
Humphries
Bogans

Chicago sends:
Boozer
Charlotte 2014 first round pick (1-10 protected)+Tony Snell.

This gives them the caproom to go after Carmelo or Bosh next year and they get two veterans with Humphries backing up Gibson off the bench. They didn't want to spend 15 million on Deng but they'll want another superstar to both old the fort while Rose is out rehabbing again, and then when Rose returns. Bosh would be perfect. Carmelo wouldn't be the best but they'll be free agent players with that base +Rose coming back.

There is no way the Bulls give up either a #1 or Snell let alone both.  The Bulls will amnesty Boozer next year and have the cap room to go after a star, unfortunately for them (just like with us) I don't think one will go there...

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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2014, 09:37:15 AM »

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Hump and Bass might as well be wearing big red signs with sale prices listed on them.
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2014, 10:00:03 AM »

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Hump and Bass might as well be wearing big red signs with sale prices listed on them.

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I'd suggest that Crawford's got a sign on him, as well.
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2014, 10:22:37 AM »

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you are 100% correct he's being showcased.
Sully's getting rest and I think they're taking it easy on Olynyk's body and letting him repair a bit, but Humphries is getting some burn to show teams that he is still a good rebounder and solid rotational big man.

I don't think he'd necessarily be taken by teams needing a veteran PF for the playoffs off the bench, rather I think he'd be traded for another contract of the same portion +1 year and we'd have a pick+young asset coming back. Other option is as you said, moving long term salary for a decent big. Good example off the top of my head would be Asik+Montejunas for Humphries and Crawford.(If Bass has found a new home).
Potential scenario with Chicago-who I'm not sure are tanking and would rather show their toughness in the playoffs to future free agents...

Boston sends:
Humphries
Bogans

Chicago sends:
Boozer
Charlotte 2014 first round pick (1-10 protected)+Tony Snell.

This gives them the caproom to go after Carmelo or Bosh next year and they get two veterans with Humphries backing up Gibson off the bench. They didn't want to spend 15 million on Deng but they'll want another superstar to both old the fort while Rose is out rehabbing again, and then when Rose returns. Bosh would be perfect. Carmelo wouldn't be the best but they'll be free agent players with that base +Rose coming back.

There is no way the Bulls give up either a #1 or Snell let alone both.  The Bulls will amnesty Boozer next year and have the cap room to go after a star, unfortunately for them (just like with us) I don't think one will go there...

You're right they probably wouldn't give up both.
Only reason I think they'd have the conversation is that they

*Move Boozer for expirings and save 16 million dollars.
*They cut $2 million from this years pay roll.
*They'd still have a first round pick of Charlotte's too which projects to be around the 14-16 mark.
*They save/keep a further 16 million next year when Humphries will give them similar bench production to Gibson and Crawford will help them score in this years playoffs.

I guess it all depends on if they want to go hard at the playoffs...I mean they've won 4 in a row since Deng left.

The more that I think about it, I doubt if Ainge would bite on this, and I think he'd actually ask for more in return.
I think he'd seriously ask for a pick, Snell AND Mirotic's rights because it kills any free agency plans we may have had.

Good thing is he could still take on Boozer and move both Boozer and Wallace with some of our picks and young assets if we did want to make a trade splash.
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2014, 10:34:53 AM »

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I don't really believe in "showcasing" a veteran player.

Most GM's are well informed on the type of player Hump, Bass, Crawford, ect are and what they would get trading for them. These players games are fairly well known and a hot month with big minutes likely isn't going to change a GM's mind.

  I don't think this is completely true but it's generally true, especially for players who have been in the league for quite a while. As for Humphries in particular, earlier in the season there were a number of posts claiming that there was no reason to play him at all because his only value is as an expiring contract. While I don't know that he'll actually be traded, he's fairly young, he's healthy and he's had multiple years where he's averaged a double-double. We would have been absolutely thrilled to pick up a player like him during most of the 08-12 run we had. I've never been a fan of his but he's a solid big who can eat up a lot of minutes for a team.

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Kris Humphries has been playing well. And when you play well, you stay on the floor longer.

I hope it's not just showcasing. I really like what he brings, especially defensively and on the boards. Offensively, he can live with those 18 footers, and he's solid on that. But he brings us toughness, and we can use toughness. Humphries is very good forward, and one I would like us to have moving into the future.

Him and Jared Sullinger will form a great PF combo, doesnt matter who starts on not. I'm sure he's not going to cost us $12 million to resign him, so we should.

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if he is showcased and plays as well as he has been doing maybe danny can unload him for basically nothing but include Wallace in some deal??? playoff teams get desperate for bigs come playoff time..

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you are 100% correct he's being showcased.
Sully's getting rest and I think they're taking it easy on Olynyk's body and letting him repair a bit, but Humphries is getting some burn to show teams that he is still a good rebounder and solid rotational big man.

I don't think he'd necessarily be taken by teams needing a veteran PF for the playoffs off the bench, rather I think he'd be traded for another contract of the same portion +1 year and we'd have a pick+young asset coming back. Other option is as you said, moving long term salary for a decent big. Good example off the top of my head would be Asik+Montejunas for Humphries and Crawford.(If Bass has found a new home).
Potential scenario with Chicago-who I'm not sure are tanking and would rather show their toughness in the playoffs to future free agents...

Boston sends:
Humphries
Bogans

Chicago sends:
Boozer
Charlotte 2014 first round pick (1-10 protected)+Tony Snell.

This gives them the caproom to go after Carmelo or Bosh next year and they get two veterans with Humphries backing up Gibson off the bench. They didn't want to spend 15 million on Deng but they'll want another superstar to both old the fort while Rose is out rehabbing again, and then when Rose returns. Bosh would be perfect. Carmelo wouldn't be the best but they'll be free agent players with that base +Rose coming back.

There is no way the Bulls give up either a #1 or Snell let alone both.  The Bulls will amnesty Boozer next year and have the cap room to go after a star, unfortunately for them (just like with us) I don't think one will go there...
They could, but if they trade Boozer for an expiring, especially one that costs less they save money this year and then don't need to pay someone to not play.  I'm sure they would love a Hump for Booz swap, the question is how much value do they put on that.  Maybe they just send over the 1st they got for Deng (which might not be a first anyway).
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Always have liked Humps professional attitude

Stays in shape,  mentally tuff,  ready to play, never a whiner .....

He is type player I want on my team ..... 

I think they are looking at him , giving him big minutes just to see how well he can play given lots of court time.

Keeping him at a reasonable contract may be better than unloading him.

Who can they sign who will give a better effort for the money.......I'll take Hump over Bass anyday .


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