If Rondo plays in the D-League...

[LarBrd33]

It's possibly a dream scenario for those who think we should cash in on Rondo for young assets and picks...

If Rondo comes back and shakes off the rust in the D-League... presumably he'll destroy the D-League with his talent.  That does two things.

#1 - Brings Rondo's trade value back up (proves he's healthy)... prevents the possibility of him coming back and underperforming post-injury with garbage teammates on Boston (which would rattle his trade value).  He would have trouble NOT dominating at that level.

#2 - Lets us continue tanking without him helping us win a few games in his showcasing period.

I'm just saying... if Ainge does indeed intend to trade Rondo (I think it's a solid possibility), sending him to the D-League to "rehab" could do wonders for Rondo's tarnished trade value. 

[aporel#18]

If Ainge wanted to trade Rondo, those things would make a lot of sense.

But Ainge is not getting fair value for a recovering Rondo, and after Rose reinjuring his knee, he won't get fair value even if he shows up and plays because teams will be afraid of his knee.

So there's a strong chance that Rondo won't be traded, because Danny will ask for (at least) fair value.

And I hope he stays here to lead the Celtics to another ring or two.

[Clench123]

Rondo is not getting traded (at least not anytime soon).  He'll dominate either way because we have a D league for a team

[D.o.s.]

Quick question: What do you guys feel is fair value for a recovering Rondo?

[LarBrd33]

Quick question: What do you guys feel is fair value for a recovering Rondo?

Not nearly as much as we hope, but probably more than I expect.  I expect any Rondo trade to include Wallace and possibly Bass as well.  You'd want to take back expiring contracts, picks and young talent.

These trades make sense to me:

Celtics trade: Rondo + Wallace (bad) + Bass (bad)
Charlotte trades:  Gordon + Sessions (expirings) + MKG, Biyombo + Walker (young talent)


Celtics trade:  Rondo + Wallace (bad) + Bass (bad)
Detroit trades:   Villanueva + Stuckey (expirings) + Jennings + Monroe + Caldwell-Pope (young assets)

That one makes less sense.  Probably would rather have picks than Monroe (who is due for a fat contract). 

At one point I thought this made sense:


Boston trades:  Rondo + Wallace (bad)
Pacers trade:  Granger (expiring) + George Hill (flip him) + Stephensen + Solomon HIll...

Stephensen's rise has made that less plausible.  Also, he's a restricted free agent... probably don't want to deal with his contract.




There's not a lot of prospective trade partners out there, unfortunately.  At this point, I'd say Charlotte makes the most sense.

I could see the Kings making a play, but it's tough to match salaries at this point.  You'd have to take on Thornton's contract... something like Thornton, Thomas, Mclemore and picks for Rondo.  Wouldn't really make sense unless you could dump Wallace off on them.

[Celtics18]

Quick question: What do you guys feel is fair value for a recovering Rondo?

Not nearly as much as we hope, but probably more than I expect.  I expect any Rondo trade to include Wallace and possibly Bass as well.  You'd want to take back expiring contracts, picks and young talent.

These trades make sense to me:

Celtics trade: Rondo + Wallace (bad) + Bass (bad)
Charlotte trades:  Gordon + Sessions (expirings) + MKG, Biyombo + Walker (young talent)


Celtics trade:  Rondo + Wallace (bad) + Bass (bad)
Detroit trades:   Villanueva + Stuckey (expirings) + Jennings + Monroe + Caldwell-Pope (young assets)

That one makes less sense.  Probably would rather have picks than Monroe (who is due for a fat contract). 

At one point I thought this made sense:


Boston trades:  Rondo + Wallace (bad)
Pacers trade:  Granger (expiring) + George Hill (flip him) + Stephensen + Solomon HIll...

Stephensen's rise has made that less plausible.  Also, he's a restricted free agent... probably don't want to deal with his contract.




There's not a lot of prospective trade partners out there, unfortunately.  At this point, I'd say Charlotte makes the most sense.

I could see the Kings making a play, but it's tough to match salaries at this point.  You'd have to take on Thornton's contract... something like Thornton, Thomas, Mclemore and picks for Rondo.  Wouldn't really make sense unless you could dump Wallace off on them.

If we make one of those trades, on what are we spending all the money we save? 

[LarBrd33]

Quick question: What do you guys feel is fair value for a recovering Rondo?

Not nearly as much as we hope, but probably more than I expect.  I expect any Rondo trade to include Wallace and possibly Bass as well.  You'd want to take back expiring contracts, picks and young talent.

These trades make sense to me:

Celtics trade: Rondo + Wallace (bad) + Bass (bad)
Charlotte trades:  Gordon + Sessions (expirings) + MKG, Biyombo + Walker (young talent)


Celtics trade:  Rondo + Wallace (bad) + Bass (bad)
Detroit trades:   Villanueva + Stuckey (expirings) + Jennings + Monroe + Caldwell-Pope (young assets)

That one makes less sense.  Probably would rather have picks than Monroe (who is due for a fat contract). 

At one point I thought this made sense:


Boston trades:  Rondo + Wallace (bad)
Pacers trade:  Granger (expiring) + George Hill (flip him) + Stephensen + Solomon HIll...

Stephensen's rise has made that less plausible.  Also, he's a restricted free agent... probably don't want to deal with his contract.




There's not a lot of prospective trade partners out there, unfortunately.  At this point, I'd say Charlotte makes the most sense.

I could see the Kings making a play, but it's tough to match salaries at this point.  You'd have to take on Thornton's contract... something like Thornton, Thomas, Mclemore and picks for Rondo.  Wouldn't really make sense unless you could dump Wallace off on them.

If we make one of those trades, on what are we spending all the money we save?

Our future.

[Boris Badenov]

Quick question: What do you guys feel is fair value for a recovering Rondo?

Not nearly as much as we hope, but probably more than I expect.  I expect any Rondo trade to include Wallace and possibly Bass as well.  You'd want to take back expiring contracts, picks and young talent.

I don't see getting rid of Wallace as a priority for two reasons.

First, in this scenario we're 2-3 years away from needing salary cap room anyway, right? I think the sequence of events is (1) acquire/draft the young stars/assets, and then (2) either trade for or sign as FA the remaining pieces.

And further, including Wallace really depresses the value we get back for arguably our best asset. Better to trade Rondo by himself or with other assets, to maximize the return. We want to get a dollar back for a dollar, not a quarter back because we're giving up a dollar and forcing someone to also eat a turd sandwich.

[LarBrd33]

Quick question: What do you guys feel is fair value for a recovering Rondo?

Not nearly as much as we hope, but probably more than I expect.  I expect any Rondo trade to include Wallace and possibly Bass as well.  You'd want to take back expiring contracts, picks and young talent.

I don't see getting rid of Wallace as a priority for two reasons.

First, in this scenario we're 2-3 years away from needing salary cap room anyway, right? I think the sequence of events is (1) acquire/draft the young stars/assets, and then (2) either trade for or sign as FA the remaining pieces.

And further, including Wallace really depresses the value we get back for arguably our best asset. Better to trade Rondo by himself or with other assets, to maximize the return. We want to get a dollar back for a dollar, not a quarter back because we're giving up a dollar and forcing someone to also eat a turd sandwich.

it just depends on Ainge's strategy.  There is some rationalization behind freeing up cap space this year... even if it doesn't mean signing a free agent with that cap space.

Sully + Oly + expiring contracts is less appealing than Sully + Oly + instant cap relief

[Celtics18]

Quick question: What do you guys feel is fair value for a recovering Rondo?

Not nearly as much as we hope, but probably more than I expect.  I expect any Rondo trade to include Wallace and possibly Bass as well.  You'd want to take back expiring contracts, picks and young talent.

These trades make sense to me:

Celtics trade: Rondo + Wallace (bad) + Bass (bad)
Charlotte trades:  Gordon + Sessions (expirings) + MKG, Biyombo + Walker (young talent)


Celtics trade:  Rondo + Wallace (bad) + Bass (bad)
Detroit trades:   Villanueva + Stuckey (expirings) + Jennings + Monroe + Caldwell-Pope (young assets)

That one makes less sense.  Probably would rather have picks than Monroe (who is due for a fat contract). 

At one point I thought this made sense:


Boston trades:  Rondo + Wallace (bad)
Pacers trade:  Granger (expiring) + George Hill (flip him) + Stephensen + Solomon HIll...

Stephensen's rise has made that less plausible.  Also, he's a restricted free agent... probably don't want to deal with his contract.




There's not a lot of prospective trade partners out there, unfortunately.  At this point, I'd say Charlotte makes the most sense.

I could see the Kings making a play, but it's tough to match salaries at this point.  You'd have to take on Thornton's contract... something like Thornton, Thomas, Mclemore and picks for Rondo.  Wouldn't really make sense unless you could dump Wallace off on them.

If we make one of those trades, on what are we spending all the money we save?

Our future.

Would you elaborate?  I honestly don't understand what you have in mind for the future. 

[LooseCannon]

Not nearly as much as we hope, but probably more than I expect.  I expect any Rondo trade to include Wallace and possibly Bass as well.  You'd want to take back expiring contracts, picks and young talent.

If you are looking to get picks and young talent, you're probably not sending out Wallace in a package.

[Greenpoison]

Rondo  isn't going to play in the D League as it turns out. Rondo's best opportunity to play with the Red Claws was this week while the Claws were at the D-League showcase in Reno very near to the Celtics. The plan was for Rondo to play his first D-League game on Tuesday, but Danny just came out and said that Rondo had a great practice with the team on Monday and because of that he personally choose to stay with the team the rest of the way instead.

[lightspeed5]

who cares about his trade value, we're keeping him. you dont trade away every piece on a team, youll never stick with a core to build with.

[BudweiserCeltic]

If Rondo plays in the D-League...

...it'll have little to no significance.

[D.o.s.]

who cares about his trade value, we're keeping him. you dont trade away every piece on a team, youll never stick with a core to build with.

I care, because it seems like everyone who talks about how we should keep Rondo because we won't get a fair value for him declines to define exactly what "fair value" is.

You know, kind of like what you're doing right now.