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Green and Perkins trade revisited
« on: January 06, 2014, 04:55:57 PM »

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If someone said they could press a button and reverse the Green-Perk trade like it never happened, i'd tell him to do it right now.  I would of also given Perk the deal he has now

Not only is Perk a better/consistent player than Green (not as skilled) but also he plays Center, a position that is hard to occupy.  Danny has tried very hard to occupy the position by a legit C since Perk has left and has failed from Erden to Fab Melo.

Bottom line, prob Danny's worse trade he has made as a Celtic GM. Perk would of been more of a help then Green has been so far

Re: Green and Perkins trade revisited
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2014, 04:57:48 PM »

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Here's someone who hasn't really been watching Perk play in a while...

Re: Green and Perkins trade revisited
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2014, 04:59:08 PM »

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Does Perk's presences on the court butterfly effect away Wade dislocated Rondo's elbow?

That's the biggest factor in my answer.

Re: Green and Perkins trade revisited
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2014, 04:59:58 PM »

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If someone said they could press a button and reverse the Green-Perk trade like it never happened, i'd tell him to do it right now.  I would of also given Perk the deal he has now

Not only is Perk a better/consistent player than Green (not as skilled) but also he plays Center, a position that is hard to occupy.  Danny has tried very hard to occupy the position by a legit C since Perk has left and has failed from Erden to Fab Melo.

Bottom line, prob Danny's worse trade he has made as a Celtic GM. Perk would of been more of a help then Green has been so far

No.

Green> Perk.

Kendrick Perkins set a NBA record for having the worst PER in the history of the NBA in the playoffs...

This guy virtually is useless, and at best can guard and defend, but isn't a good rebounder nor can he block as well as he can.
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Re: Green and Perkins trade revisited
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2014, 05:01:38 PM »

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If someone said they could press a button and reverse the Green-Perk trade like it never happened, i'd tell him to do it right now.  I would of also given Perk the deal he has now

Not only is Perk a better/consistent player than Green (not as skilled) but also he plays Center, a position that is hard to occupy.  Danny has tried very hard to occupy the position by a legit C since Perk has left and has failed from Erden to Fab Melo.

Bottom line, prob Danny's worse trade he has made as a Celtic GM. Perk would of been more of a help then Green has been so far

No.

Green> Perk.

Kendrick Perkins set a NBA record for having the worst PER in the history of the NBA in the playoffs...

This guy virtually is useless, and at best can guard and defend, but isn't a good rebounder nor can he block as well as he can.

I guess what you say is easy to read, when Perk almost single handed destroyed our front court last game

He is also on a great team. You can pint point all his issues, but the team is winning. Without him in the lineup it wouldn't be as easy for OKC

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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2014, 05:01:50 PM »

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Some people are really never going to get over this trade, regardless of how things work out in the long run, apparently.
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2014, 05:03:36 PM »

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Does Perk's presences on the court butterfly effect away Wade dislocated Rondo's elbow?

That's the biggest factor in my answer.

  At worst, the odds of Wade going after Rondo decrease.

  Agree with the premise though. Just as KG's knee blew up a year's worth of "should we have re-signed Posey" discussions, Rondo's elbow killed off the "would we have won the title with Perk" discussions.

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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2014, 05:03:56 PM »

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Some people are really never going to get over this trade, regardless of how things work out in the long run, apparently.

For me, the main reason is, Perk is a better/consistent player and plays a difficult position to occupy.  Danny since the trade has had zero luck finding a legit Center

Green on the other hand has had us fans reaching for the tylonel on a consistent basis

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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2014, 05:04:55 PM »

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Some people are really never going to get over this trade, regardless of how things work out in the long run, apparently.

  It will take a while. We're finally free of the "bring back Antoine" threads, so there's hope.

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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2014, 05:07:58 PM »

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Perkins is terrible. He's easily the worst big man in the Thunder's rotation this year and is being outplayed by a rookie (Steven Adams). Green is a solid NBA player. Perkins is not.

People around here tend to overrate Perkins because he started his career here but honestly he was never anything more than a guy who eats up space in the paint. He's never been a good scorer (he's too slow, he brings the ball down on rebounds, he can't shoot, he has bricks for hands, his career FT% is only 60%), he's not a very good rebounder (career average of 6.1 rebounds a game which is pretty pathetic for a starting NBA center) and his defense is overrated (he was only a good 1v1 defender and wasn't known for his help side defense). Frankly, I think the only reason he was on the Celtics' roster was because he could guard Dwight Howard.


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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2014, 05:08:07 PM »

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Okc ..threw away their chance at multiple titles...keeping Perk over Harden .....far worse crime....

That was far worse than Perk for Green which compared to dumping Harden ...to keep anybody else on OKC wasa mistake much less Perk

Re: Green and Perkins trade revisited
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2014, 05:08:42 PM »

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If someone said they could press a button and reverse the Green-Perk trade like it never happened, i'd tell him to do it right now.  I would of also given Perk the deal he has now

Not only is Perk a better/consistent player than Green (not as skilled) but also he plays Center, a position that is hard to occupy.  Danny has tried very hard to occupy the position by a legit C since Perk has left and has failed from Erden to Fab Melo.

Bottom line, prob Danny's worse trade he has made as a Celtic GM. Perk would of been more of a help then Green has been so far

No.

Green> Perk.

Kendrick Perkins set a NBA record for having the worst PER in the history of the NBA in the playoffs...

This guy virtually is useless, and at best can guard and defend, but isn't a good rebounder nor can he block as well as he can.

I guess what you say is easy to read, when Perk almost single handed destroyed our front court last game

He is also on a great team. You can pint point all his issues, but the team is winning. Without him in the lineup it wouldn't be as easy for OKC

I'm pretty sure when you have one of the best scorers in the league, and arguably top 5 PG along with good backups of Jeremy Lamb and Reggie Jackson that having a great record shouldn't be that hard.

Its also pretty sad when Steven Adams is outplaying Perkins in almost very statistical category...

Yes Perkins destroyed our front court, but it was against a very injured Sullinger who should be sitting out, and a front court that wouldn't even start on contenders...
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Re: Green and Perkins trade revisited
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2014, 05:08:46 PM »

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I was against the trade when it happened. I felt that it messed up team chemistry and I didn't believe for one second that Shaq would be healthy at the end of that season. I also felt that Perk and KG made a great duo together and that the Celtics lost a little of it's meanness and toughness after Perk left town.
But Perk after the injury was never the same player again and perhaps Danny saw that coming. He gets to see things that we as fans just don't And Green is a much better basketball player then Perk is or will ever be.

With that said I don't think Green is very good either and I won't be sad when I see him traded one day. He's a nice guy but you won't win with him.
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2014, 05:10:55 PM »

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I was against the trade when it happened. I felt that it messed up team chemistry and I didn't believe for one second that Shaq would be healthy at the end of that season. I also felt that Perk and KG made a great duo together and that the Celtics lost a little of it's meanness and toughness after Perk left town.
But Perk after the injury was never the same player again and perhaps Danny saw that coming. He gets to see things that we as fans just don't And Green is a much better basketball player then Perk is or will ever be.

With that said I don't think Green is very good either and I won't be sad when I see him traded one day. He's a nice guy but you won't win with him.

So who would you pick? a 90 percent PErk or nice guy Green?

Re: Green and Perkins trade revisited
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2014, 05:21:00 PM »

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I was against the trade when it happened. I felt that it messed up team chemistry and I didn't believe for one second that Shaq would be healthy at the end of that season. I also felt that Perk and KG made a great duo together and that the Celtics lost a little of it's meanness and toughness after Perk left town.
But Perk after the injury was never the same player again and perhaps Danny saw that coming. He gets to see things that we as fans just don't And Green is a much better basketball player then Perk is or will ever be.

With that said I don't think Green is very good either and I won't be sad when I see him traded one day. He's a nice guy but you won't win with him.

So who would you pick? a 90 percent PErk or nice guy Green?
For that one season the trade happened? Perk, because I know what happened in the playoffs and Green didn't help.

For every season after that? Green, because Perk isn't very good anymore. KG is gone and we can get more in a trade with Green then we can with Perk probably.
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