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Is it Brooks time ???
« on: January 06, 2014, 10:45:45 AM »

Offline Texstyles

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I know it is the Dleague but so far Brooks has scored 27, 24, and 36. Now with Lee gone should he get some meaningful minutes and see how he does.

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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2014, 10:47:17 AM »

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I'd rather see Bayless get all of Lees run.

Brooks hasn't shown the ability to score during his time against NBA competition. I don't think d-league performances are telling us he's turned the corner.

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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2014, 10:55:52 AM »

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I know it is the Dleague but so far Brooks has scored 27, 24, and 36. Now with Lee gone should he get some meaningful minutes and see how he does.

D-League is rarely ever a good indicator of talent. Melo broke a record for D-League by averaging over 12 blocks, but look where he is? It also doesn't help Brooks in the fact the D-League is a guard dominant league. We'll see if he does get the call up if he can produce. I'm going to presume Bayless will get Lees minutes, and Crawford/Bayless/Bradley will be splitting times at SG. With Crawford/Bayless swapping PG back and forth.

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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2014, 10:58:23 AM »

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Brooks is a classic D-league scorer.  He has the tools to dominate lesser competition but without a better jumpshot or a stronger frame he can't compete against NBA players.
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2014, 11:02:19 AM »

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I'd rather see Bayless get all of Lees run.

Brooks hasn't shown the ability to score during his time against NBA competition. I don't think d-league performances are telling us he's turned the corner.
He did show some early on, but has fallen off a cliff lately. He's looked truly awful every time he got any run with the Cs. I don't know whether this run with the Red Claws will help him figure out what he can and can't do on a basketball court, but it's good we have some minutes to figure out who (if anyone_) is worth keeping between Pressey, Bayless, and Brooks.
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Doing well in D-League is better than not doing well.  I suspect the plan is to play Crawford and Bayless at the point with Pressey losing out.  Minutes will open up for Bogans and Brooks.

Brooks could get hot and become at least minimal trade value.  Pressey has no value at all (from a trade standpoint) at that is not likely to change.  He may even get cut saving us a little more money (at least I think that he is non-guaranteed).  May as well give Brooks one last chance.

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Doing well in D-League is better than not doing well.  I suspect the plan is to play Crawford and Bayless at the point with Pressey losing out.  Minutes will open up for Bogans and Brooks.

Brooks could get hot and become at least minimal trade value.  Pressey has no value at all (from a trade standpoint) at that is not likely to change.  He may even get cut saving us a little more money (at least I think that he is non-guaranteed).  May as well give Brooks one last chance.

This year is guaranteed for Pressey. he has two(?) additional years on his contract that are not.
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Doing well in D-League is better than not doing well.  I suspect the plan is to play Crawford and Bayless at the point with Pressey losing out.  Minutes will open up for Bogans and Brooks.

Brooks could get hot and become at least minimal trade value.  Pressey has no value at all (from a trade standpoint) at that is not likely to change.  He may even get cut saving us a little more money (at least I think that he is non-guaranteed).  May as well give Brooks one last chance.

This year is guaranteed for Pressey. he has two(?) additional years on his contract that are not.
He was an UFA signed on a small potatoes contract. I'm sure the contract is structured to be team-friendly: either with guarantee dates, or simply by virtue of being a minimum contract. Having an additional warm body on the bench is virtually always better than the savings you get from cutting a rookie minimum contract.
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2014, 11:53:12 AM »

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Doing well in D-League is better than not doing well.  I suspect the plan is to play Crawford and Bayless at the point with Pressey losing out.  Minutes will open up for Bogans and Brooks.

Brooks could get hot and become at least minimal trade value.  Pressey has no value at all (from a trade standpoint) at that is not likely to change.  He may even get cut saving us a little more money (at least I think that he is non-guaranteed).  May as well give Brooks one last chance.
NBA general managers aren't stupid.  Playing Brooks more so he can get meaningless points on a bad team isn't going to help his trade value. I think by now everyone knows what he is.

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Doing well in D-League is better than not doing well.  I suspect the plan is to play Crawford and Bayless at the point with Pressey losing out.  Minutes will open up for Bogans and Brooks.

Brooks could get hot and become at least minimal trade value.  Pressey has no value at all (from a trade standpoint) at that is not likely to change.  He may even get cut saving us a little more money (at least I think that he is non-guaranteed).  May as well give Brooks one last chance.

This year is guaranteed for Pressey. he has two(?) additional years on his contract that are not.
He was an UFA signed on a small potatoes contract. I'm sure the contract is structured to be team-friendly: either with guarantee dates, or simply by virtue of being a minimum contract. Having an additional warm body on the bench is virtually always better than the savings you get from cutting a rookie minimum contract.

We're both on the level here, it seems:
http://www.celticsblog.com/2013/7/28/4566534/phil-presseys-contract-is-guaranteed-for-year-one

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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2014, 12:19:17 PM »

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Is it Brooks' time?

Sure, time to be part of the next trade.

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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2014, 02:00:20 PM »

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Brooks could get hot and become at least minimal trade value.  Pressey has no value at all (from a trade standpoint) at that is not likely to change.  He may even get cut saving us a little more money (at least I think that he is non-guaranteed).  May as well give Brooks one last chance.

The trade value of Brooks lies mainly in being an expiring contract.  Since he has a small contract, that value is minimal.  He is most likely to be used as a throw-in if salaries don't match up.


Pressey being an unguaranteed contract give him value similar to the Chinese three this off-season.  He's there holding a roster spot, but can easily be cut or added to a trade.
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I'd rather see Bayless get all of Lees run.

Brooks hasn't shown the ability to score during his time against NBA competition. I don't think d-league performances are telling us he's turned the corner.

Seriously?  Brooks had 9 games of 20 or more points as a rookie, and was used sparingly, at best, last season.  The most he's played this year was one 18 minute stint against Minnesota, and then would go over a week without playing, so how does any of that qualify as a 'good run' with our club?  Aside from that game in Minny, btw, he's done what Stevens has wanted him to do when he's actually played, not just chucking shots.  I just don't get all of the negativity surrounding the kid, it's not like we're contending - let him play!  He's the best offensive player on the team and can create his own shot, and if Bradley improved so much after playing with Rondo, why can't Brooks do the same?  The kid needs actual playing time, and not for two games.  Let's give him a month's worth of games and then we can at least have a small sample size to analyze.  He's got great moves, great footwork, can post up with counters, has an excellent midrange game, can rebound, and even block shots.  I don't know how good he can be, but I do think that he's one of those guys who would have learned and benefited so much from the Big Three, especially KG and Pierce (who could only have taught him more offensive moves).  Can't we just test him out?
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Seriously?  Brooks had 9 games of 20 or more points as a rookie, and was used sparingly, at best, last season.  The most he's played this year was one 18 minute stint against Minnesota, and then would go over a week without playing, so how does any of that qualify as a 'good run' with our club?  Aside from that game in Minny, btw, he's done what Stevens has wanted him to do when he's actually played, not just chucking shots.  I just don't get all of the negativity surrounding the kid, it's not like we're contending - let him play!  He's the best offensive player on the team and can create his own shot, and if Bradley improved so much after playing with Rondo, why can't Brooks do the same?  The kid needs actual playing time, and not for two games.  Let's give him a month's worth of games and then we can at least have a small sample size to analyze.  He's got great moves, great footwork, can post up with counters, has an excellent midrange game, can rebound, and even block shots.  I don't know how good he can be, but I do think that he's one of those guys who would have learned and benefited so much from the Big Three, especially KG and Pierce (who could only have taught him more offensive moves).  Can't we just test him out?

I agree ... but we're in the minority.
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I think he probably gets rotation minutes to an extent now.
I'd say he went to the lobsters because they were considering trades involving our 26 shooting guards and they did move one so nows his shot.

And for everyone bagging on him, he averaged 48% from the field as a jump shooter in his second year for Brooklyn. He's also improved his 3 point stroke to NBA range..he just needs a chance. His per is great too...and after being in this scheme for a season his defense will be much improved.
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