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Next shoe to drop?
« on: January 05, 2014, 08:27:08 PM »

Offline ScoobyDoo

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With Courtney Lee apparently traded, I would not be surprised to see the following go down.

Humphries, Wallace and either Brooks or Crawford to the Knicks for Stoudemire and Iman Shumpert.

It would make a lot of sense for the Knicks.

Chandler / Bargnani
Humphries /
Melo / Wallace
Jr Smith / Hardaway Jr. / Prigioni
Felton / Crawford / Udrih

The Knicks would still need to sign another PF but this would make them much more complete. They hold onto Wallace for an extra year at $10 Mil but may be able to buy him out or trade him after next season.

In the meantime he provides much needed back up for Melo and possibly at the three. After Chandler they have nothing substantial up front. Humphries would fit very well and he'd also come off the books so they could go after another big shot at PF in the off season.

For Boston, we dump Wallace's contract and get Shumpert to solidify a nice backcourt - he'd be a very good back up for Bradley - tough D, can shoot threes and is physical at 6' 5" when Bradley's getting muscled. We them focus our draft picks and other moves on front court help.

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Re: Next shoe to drop?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2014, 08:43:02 PM »

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I'd do it for the C's for 3 reasons:
1) Shump is better than either Brooks or Crawford.  the only problem is Pressey becomes our only PG until Rondo gets back.  AB is NOT a PG.
2) helps us get lower (improved) position in the lottery (without sacrificing a young player we would prefer to keep) by making us worse while making the Knicks much better so that they can pass us in the standings.
3) unloads Wallace's longer deal although I hate to see Amare's deal on the books after this year.  although, that is a major salary slot off the books after 2015 when we should hopefully be on the upswing in terms of talent and would look to be a buyer in the FA market
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2014, 08:49:59 PM »

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Ainge's next move is to try and package Bass and Wallace for an expiring. Really any move to get the Celtics in a postion to sign Melo. I think he envisions the new big three being Rondo Melo and whomever he takes in the top 5 (if they get a pick in that range) plus Boston has a ton of picks in the next 5 years. Out of all the teams Melo has been rumored to go to Boston easily a better set up than all of them. If he wants to play with Rondo then this is a no brainer.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2014, 09:13:09 PM »

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Quote from: tyrone biggums on January 05, 2014, 08:49:59 PM
Ainge's next move is to try and package Bass and Wallace for an expiring. Really any move to get the Celtics in a postion to sign Melo. I think he envisions the new big three being Rondo Melo and whomever he takes in the top 5 (if they get a pick in that range) plus Boston has a ton of picks in the next 5 years. Out of all the teams Melo has been rumored to go to Boston easily a better set up than all of them. If he wants to play with Rondo then this is a no brainer.

Speaking of Melo, whatever happened to his brother Fab, who seems to have disappeared after being cut by Dallas?
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2014, 09:26:15 PM »

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I'm not a big Carmelo fan. That being said, he is a top line scorer and it's possible that Rondo and Stevens could make his life immeasurably easier than it's ever been. We'd better sign a real good defender behind him.

If this was the case then why not trade Green and Bass for Asik and Lin? This would mean that for us Asik, Lin and Stoudemire would all come off the books the same year as Melo become a free agent.

The rest of this season:

Asik / Vitor
Sully / Olynyk
Bogans (he wanted playing time...)
Bradley / Shumpert (Stoudemire trade)
Pressey / Bayless / (Rondo...)

Don't rush Rondo back

Our pick: Top Three?
ATL / Brooklyn pick: 4-12? I've looked at their schedules and both could easily nose dive. Brooklyn with another injury. ATL because teams are going to load up on Milsap and Korver.

Next Season:

Asik / Vitor
Sully / Olynyk
Top Three draft pick / Bogans
Bradley / Shumpert
Rondo / 4-12 draft pick / Pressey
   
Sign Melo in the 2015 off season.
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2014, 09:27:56 PM »

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Quote from: tyrone biggums on January 05, 2014, 08:49:59 PM
Ainge's next move is to try and package Bass and Wallace for an expiring. Really any move to get the Celtics in a postion to sign Melo. I think he envisions the new big three being Rondo Melo and whomever he takes in the top 5 (if they get a pick in that range) plus Boston has a ton of picks in the next 5 years. Out of all the teams Melo has been rumored to go to Boston easily a better set up than all of them. If he wants to play with Rondo then this is a no brainer.
Only way you are getting an expiring for Wallace is to include a couple 1st rounders or Rondo.

If there's a worst contract in the NBA right now, let me know.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2014, 09:31:05 PM »

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Quote from: tyrone biggums on January 05, 2014, 08:49:59 PM
Ainge's next move is to try and package Bass and Wallace for an expiring. Really any move to get the Celtics in a postion to sign Melo. I think he envisions the new big three being Rondo Melo and whomever he takes in the top 5 (if they get a pick in that range) plus Boston has a ton of picks in the next 5 years. Out of all the teams Melo has been rumored to go to Boston easily a better set up than all of them. If he wants to play with Rondo then this is a no brainer.

a ~ you can't package wallace on bass. lucky to get good value for bass alone;

b ~ ainge wants cap space ASAP, but won't touch melo.
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Re: Next shoe to drop?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2014, 09:45:39 PM »

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Quote from: slamtheking on January 05, 2014, 08:43:02 PM
I'd do it for the C's for 3 reasons:
1) Shump is better than either Brooks or Crawford.  the only problem is Pressey becomes our only PG until Rondo gets back.  AB is NOT a PG.
2) helps us get lower (improved) position in the lottery (without sacrificing a young player we would prefer to keep) by making us worse while making the Knicks much better so that they can pass us in the standings.
3) unloads Wallace's longer deal although I hate to see Amare's deal on the books after this year.  although, that is a major salary slot off the books after 2015 when we should hopefully be on the upswing in terms of talent and would look to be a buyer in the FA market
We just brought in Bayless, so we will have a backup PG who can start until Rondo gets back.
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2014, 09:46:48 PM »

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Now that Lee is gone, Danny can breathe.
I just made a thread about it, but how bout a Bass+Bogans for Asik deal?
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2014, 09:48:32 PM »

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Humphries, Bass, Jcraw, Jeff Green will be traded next imo

Bogans and Wallace would be gone tomorrow if anybody wanted them.

There is always questions about Rondo also going. You can be sure if Rondo is traded the opposing team has to take Wallace also. Celtics cap situation then would be amazing. We could sign 2 big stars if we wanted to
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2014, 09:50:56 PM »

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It's started

next phase of Celtics rebuild


It has to be depressing for the good player like Sully though........they have to know ......players will start to disappear
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2014, 09:57:35 PM »

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If you are asking what the next shoe to drop is then I would say Jordan Crawford is gone fairly soon but if you are asking if this is the next shoe to drop then I doubt it. Stoudemire's contract takes some 2015 money off the books but I feel there are more productive ways to do that than to trade for a guy with a $23 million contract next year that has a knee so bad that he could be out all next year and give you nothing while having to pay him his money because his contract is uninsured.
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2014, 10:04:30 PM »

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Quote from: letsgoblue86 on January 05, 2014, 09:45:39 PM
Quote from: slamtheking on January 05, 2014, 08:43:02 PM
I'd do it for the C's for 3 reasons:
1) Shump is better than either Brooks or Crawford.  the only problem is Pressey becomes our only PG until Rondo gets back.  AB is NOT a PG.
2) helps us get lower (improved) position in the lottery (without sacrificing a young player we would prefer to keep) by making us worse while making the Knicks much better so that they can pass us in the standings.
3) unloads Wallace's longer deal although I hate to see Amare's deal on the books after this year.  although, that is a major salary slot off the books after 2015 when we should hopefully be on the upswing in terms of talent and would look to be a buyer in the FA market
We just brought in Bayless, so we will have a backup PG who can start until Rondo gets back.
I get he's a PG but he's always struck as a combo guard at best but more of a SG
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2014, 10:10:38 PM »

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Quote from: triboy16f on January 05, 2014, 09:48:32 PM
Humphries, Bass, Jcraw, Jeff Green will be traded next imo

Bogans and Wallace would be gone tomorrow if anybody wanted them.

There is always questions about Rondo also going. You can be sure if Rondo is traded the opposing team has to take Wallace also. Celtics cap situation then would be amazing. We could sign 2 big stars if we wanted to
OK, $64,000 question -- which 2 big stars do you think will actually hit the market that would actually sign here with no other star players to join with? 

Melo might actually hit the market but the several other big name players (like the Miami trio) are very likely to stay with their current team.  Melo won't be coming here to play with Sully and Green who'd be our 2 best players. 

trading Rondo for cap room would be unbelievably foolish
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2014, 10:13:31 PM »

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Would DA give the pick for Waiters and then trade Rondo
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