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Re: 2014 draft 10-25 sfs - doug mcdermott, sam dekker, TJ warren, kyle anderson
« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2014, 01:15:27 PM »

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KYLE ANDERSON!

advanced stats show he's a lot better than dekker, and better than mcdermott - haven't checked warren but I assume so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzL5qVYfOx8

this link is to a video of kyle anderson. his release isn't as slow as i once thought. i know he has a long wingspan, but it seems he also only needs to take to steps to reach the basket, which means he's deceptively quick. 

can't jump though. but he's a great passer. he's a starter in the nba. not a star or superstar, but a really good starter.

Likely 6th man in the nba bc of lack of great defensive capapbility. Also i saw him struggle offensively vs Aaron Gordon. He has some problems against players who will play physical defense against him. i like him but only if he is avail with our 2nd 1st

Re: 2014 draft 10-25 sfs - doug mcdermott, sam dekker, TJ warren, kyle anderson
« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2014, 01:28:12 PM »

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I haven't seen Anderson much, but in the vids I've watched he appears to be in slow motion.  Moves like Scalabrine.   I'll pass.

Re: 2014 draft 10-25 sfs - doug mcdermott, sam dekker, TJ warren, kyle anderson
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2014, 08:25:58 PM »

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Anderson has a little Pierce look to his game.  I'd still go for McDermott.  He'd go for 50 a night if his teammates would pass him the ball more.  He hits 30 ft shot clock beating jumpers, drives with the left hand, step back fall aways, 90% free throws, and jump hooks.  And that was just in the Marquette game I watched. 


Re: 2014 draft 10-25 sfs - doug mcdermott, sam dekker, TJ warren, kyle anderson
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2014, 08:34:55 PM »

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Anderson has a little Pierce look to his game.  I'd still go for McDermott.  He'd go for 50 a night if his teammates would pass him the ball more.  He hits 30 ft shot clock beating jumpers, drives with the left hand, step back fall aways, 90% free throws, and jump hooks.  And that was just in the Marquette game I watched.

Mcdermott will have to get his guy out of the game via foul problems bc otherwise he will also have problems handling them

Can imagine what Lebron or George could do to him?? Even Batum could probably drop 30 on him without much fuss

Re: 2014 draft 10-25 sfs - doug mcdermott, sam dekker, TJ warren, kyle anderson
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2014, 08:38:53 PM »

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TJ Warren looks like a stud. He looks top 10 pick worthy. A little bit concerned reading that he displays a poor attitude /body language on the court from time to time but not much else negative about his game

TJ Warren = 2010-2012 Paul Pierce.

Can score on anybody , rebound the ball and play solid defense

Re: 2014 draft 10-25 sfs - doug mcdermott, sam dekker, TJ warren, kyle anderson
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2014, 08:40:44 PM »

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With the NBA valuing pure shooters now more than ever, McDermott will certainly find a prominent role with a team. I don't think he is a top 10 pick, but is one of the most guaranteed productive players in the late lottery to early 20s. His ability to shoot and score in so many ways is a luxury - he will just need to be protected by other very good defenders.

With all of that said, I would still probably roll the dice on Warren if everybody you listed was available.

Re: 2014 draft 10-25 sfs - doug mcdermott, sam dekker, TJ warren, kyle anderson
« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2014, 09:04:04 PM »

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Here is my semi plan if we finish outside the fantastic 4 in the draft.  If our pick falls in the 5,6,7 area trade the pick with the team that grabs Embiid with the first pick for their current center.  For example we end up with Noel, Sanders, Kanter, Vuvicic, or if we can get lucky enough Cousins.  That team can then draft Randle or Vonleh to put next to Embiid, and we get our legit center to put next to Sully with KO the first big off the bench.

Then with our second pick we take maybe one of these guys and hopefully end up with a very good wing player.

I would be happy with this as a consolation prize if we don't get a top 4 pick.

Re: 2014 draft 10-25 sfs - doug mcdermott, sam dekker, TJ warren, kyle anderson
« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2014, 09:45:14 PM »

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Here is my semi plan if we finish outside the fantastic 4 in the draft.  If our pick falls in the 5,6,7 area trade the pick with the team that grabs Embiid with the first pick for their current center.  For example we end up with Noel, Sanders, Kanter, Vuvicic, or if we can get lucky enough Cousins.  That team can then draft Randle or Vonleh to put next to Embiid, and we get our legit center to put next to Sully with KO the first big off the bench.

Then with our second pick we take maybe one of these guys and hopefully end up with a very good wing player.

I would be happy with this as a consolation prize if we don't get a top 4 pick.

I get your logic, but geez, I don't know how Danny could possibly justify to the Boston faithful that he traded a potential star in a guy like Marcus Smart for Larry Sanders (or anyone else on your list not named Cousins). I think if we want the majority of those you list, we could probably find a deal centered around the BKN/Atl pick.

Re: 2014 draft 10-25 sfs - doug mcdermott, sam dekker, TJ warren, kyle anderson
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2014, 09:55:40 PM »

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Here is my semi plan if we finish outside the fantastic 4 in the draft.  If our pick falls in the 5,6,7 area trade the pick with the team that grabs Embiid with the first pick for their current center.  For example we end up with Noel, Sanders, Kanter, Vuvicic, or if we can get lucky enough Cousins.  That team can then draft Randle or Vonleh to put next to Embiid, and we get our legit center to put next to Sully with KO the first big off the bench.

Then with our second pick we take maybe one of these guys and hopefully end up with a very good wing player.

I would be happy with this as a consolation prize if we don't get a top 4 pick.

I get your logic, but geez, I don't know how Danny could possibly justify to the Boston faithful that he traded a potential star in a guy like Marcus Smart for Larry Sanders (or anyone else on your list not named Cousins). I think if we want the majority of those you list, we could probably find a deal centered around the BKN/Atl pick.

I personally think Marcus Smart could disappoint, and he has been sliding in some mock drafts.   I think he could be a very solid pro, but maybe not all star level.  Sanders just last year was putting up stellar defensive numbers.  Could be just the defensive anchor we need.  Plus we already have Rondo so why take a risk on Smart.

Re: 2014 draft 10-25 sfs - doug mcdermott, sam dekker, TJ warren, kyle anderson
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2014, 10:37:45 PM »

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Here is my semi plan if we finish outside the fantastic 4 in the draft.  If our pick falls in the 5,6,7 area trade the pick with the team that grabs Embiid with the first pick for their current center.  For example we end up with Noel, Sanders, Kanter, Vuvicic, or if we can get lucky enough Cousins.  That team can then draft Randle or Vonleh to put next to Embiid, and we get our legit center to put next to Sully with KO the first big off the bench.

Then with our second pick we take maybe one of these guys and hopefully end up with a very good wing player.

I would be happy with this as a consolation prize if we don't get a top 4 pick.

I get your logic, but geez, I don't know how Danny could possibly justify to the Boston faithful that he traded a potential star in a guy like Marcus Smart for Larry Sanders (or anyone else on your list not named Cousins). I think if we want the majority of those you list, we could probably find a deal centered around the BKN/Atl pick.

I personally think Marcus Smart could disappoint, and he has been sliding in some mock drafts.   I think he could be a very solid pro, but maybe not all star level.  Sanders just last year was putting up stellar defensive numbers.  Could be just the defensive anchor we need.  Plus we already have Rondo so why take a risk on Smart.
I agree a trade is a viable alternative to picking 5th or later but a lot of the centers you've mentioned are worth a 5-7 pick.  There'd have to be more pieces coming back to the C's which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.  FWIW, if Sac gets the top pick, they'll either take Parker/Wiggins or trade down to the second or third spot to get either of those players while picking up another solid asset from whoever they trade with.  Sac still gets the player that fits that roster while picking up another good player

Re: 2014 draft 10-25 sfs - doug mcdermott, sam dekker, TJ warren, kyle anderson
« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2014, 10:45:51 PM »

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Here is my semi plan if we finish outside the fantastic 4 in the draft.  If our pick falls in the 5,6,7 area trade the pick with the team that grabs Embiid with the first pick for their current center.  For example we end up with Noel, Sanders, Kanter, Vuvicic, or if we can get lucky enough Cousins.  That team can then draft Randle or Vonleh to put next to Embiid, and we get our legit center to put next to Sully with KO the first big off the bench.

Then with our second pick we take maybe one of these guys and hopefully end up with a very good wing player.

I would be happy with this as a consolation prize if we don't get a top 4 pick.

I get your logic, but geez, I don't know how Danny could possibly justify to the Boston faithful that he traded a potential star in a guy like Marcus Smart for Larry Sanders (or anyone else on your list not named Cousins). I think if we want the majority of those you list, we could probably find a deal centered around the BKN/Atl pick.

I personally think Marcus Smart could disappoint, and he has been sliding in some mock drafts.   I think he could be a very solid pro, but maybe not all star level.  Sanders just last year was putting up stellar defensive numbers.  Could be just the defensive anchor we need.  Plus we already have Rondo so why take a risk on Smart.
I agree a trade is a viable alternative to picking 5th or later but a lot of the centers you've mentioned are worth a 5-7 pick.  There'd have to be more pieces coming back to the C's which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.  FWIW, if Sac gets the top pick, they'll either take Parker/Wiggins or trade down to the second or third spot to get either of those players while picking up another solid asset from whoever they trade with.  Sac still gets the player that fits that roster while picking up another good player

You could be right on both points.  I think all centers I mentioned were top 5 picks, but if we get more coming back in a deal like this all the better.

I just would love to get a young center so Sully can go back to playing PF.

Re: 2014 draft 10-25 sfs - doug mcdermott, sam dekker, TJ warren, kyle anderson
« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2014, 01:46:01 PM »

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I am catching some game action of Sam dekker for the first time in a big game of Wisconsin against Iowa. And i am not impressed with dekker. He was playing hot potato with the ball throughout the second half. I never would have guessed he was a first round NBA prospect.

He makes jeff green's aggression look like Lebron James or Kobe Bryant.

I'd take a flier on him in round two. But the 18th pick? No way.

Re: 2014 draft 10-25 sfs - doug mcdermott, sam dekker, TJ warren, kyle anderson
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2014, 02:20:52 PM »

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I am catching some game action of Sam dekker for the first time in a big game of Wisconsin against Iowa. And i am not impressed with dekker. He was playing hot potato with the ball throughout the second half. I never would have guessed he was a first round NBA prospect.

He makes jeff green's aggression look like Lebron James or Kobe Bryant.

I'd take a flier on him in round two. But the 18th pick? No way.

Dekker is passive.  Some games he can be on.  But he is inconsistent in all aspects of his game. He has game but just doesn't know how to utilize his strengths against different opponents/team on  a daily basis.

Unless he goes off at the tourney , best for him to stay another year in college

Re: 2014 draft 10-25 sfs - doug mcdermott, sam dekker, TJ warren, kyle anderson
« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2014, 05:28:42 PM »

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TJ warren went off today again with 31 points at 12-21 shooting to help his team win 71-64 vs VT. He has done well against top level teams also. At this rate Warren is going to be drafted 8-12.

Like mcdermott is a scoring machine, not as deadly as a jump shooter but better defender and racks up the steals

A clip from a game last week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37GpADjOuLg

Rondo would like a guy like Warren who puts in a Ray Allen like effort throughout the game to get open and once he does , knows how to put the ball in the basket

Re: 2014 draft 10-25 sfs - doug mcdermott, sam dekker, TJ warren, kyle anderson
« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2014, 06:08:52 PM »

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TJ warren went off today again with 31 points at 12-21 shooting to help his team win 71-64 vs VT. He has done well against top level teams also. At this rate Warren is going to be drafted 8-12.

Like mcdermott is a scoring machine, not as deadly as a jump shooter but better defender and racks up the steals..
TJ Warren is a better player than Andrew Wiggins right now.  He scores more (and at a higher efficiency) than Jabari Parker.  It's easy to get caught up in all the mock draft hype, but a few years from now I think we'll see Warren as a top 5-6 talent in this draft. Get him Danny!