This is all pretty much what I assumed happened, and it makes sense from all sides.
And I think Ray is absolutely right. When a team tries to trade you, and you know they are on the verge of a transition, why would you go back there, if you value the comfort of knowing where you are going to be for the next few years?
I never blamed him. He did was he felt was best. Good for him.
It's a pity reporters have no balls to ask him whether he was really offered a no-trade, and if he were, how it figured into his trade worries. Or perhaps whether he thought this team would have been too good to dismantle the team in case he stayed. You know, curious little stuff like that.
Thanks for 2008, and good riddance. Please stop talking.
I think it's kinda irrelevant, really.
By then, it was made painfully obvious to Ray that Danny Ainge could go in a million different directions in a matter of a week.
The damage had already been done, regardless of whether Ainge offered Ray a "no-trade clause" or free nachos for life at the Fours restaurant.
It was clear to Ray that it was time to move on.
Let's not forget KG also had a no-trade clause but he more or less got that Brooklyn deal forced on him as well so who's to say the same thing couldn't have happened to Ray
Also, furthermore IIRC, the Celts had decided to sign Jason Terry BEFORE Ray signed with Miami.
By then, Ray literally had NO reason to stay in Boston
No, it's not irrelevant. If Ainge did indeed offer him a no-trade, then Ray Allen decidedly didn't leave because he was worried that he'll be traded, or because the team could be dismantled (remember, Garnett had a no-trade, too). Which makes everything that has come out of his mouth since to be little more than smoke, mirrors and PR.
And Ray Allen doesn't have the stones to come out and say that he didn't like that he shopped around, and that he didn't care enough about Pierce and Garnett deal with that. Ray Allen, the "consummate professional". News flash, professionalism has more to it than showing up early to work and chuckling a bunch of shots in an empty gym.
Not sure I am following you.
Ray clearly felt he wasn't wanted here anymore. Between the trade rumors, his documented rocky relationship with Rondo, and likely other things like Doc benching Ray for Avery Bradley, maybe rifts he had with Paul and/or KG, who knows.
What I am saying is there comes a point where offering someone a "no trade" clause just doesn't matter. It's clear to the player, it's time to say goodbye.
Now if the beef is with Ray talking about his fear of being traded which is why he didn't come back, I guess that's different. He (or someone) should point out, "well Ray you were offered a no-trade clause, hence you couldn't have been traded."
But again, I think this had more to do with the many other times in the past that Ray was being shopped regardless of whether he was offered a no-trade clause or not.
By the way, I was all for a couple of the Ray Allen trade rumors. Had Ray been dealt for Monta Ellis in 2010 or for OJ Mayo in 2012, I would not have minded either deal because in both those cases, I think we would've gotten the better player.
I always felt that out of the "big 3" that Ray was the most expendable one.
I am just saying the loyalty thing goes both ways. It's a two way street between the team and the player.
Let's say the roles were reversed and in the summer of 2010, Dwyane Wade left Miami to come to Boston. Most fans (including me) would love him for his decision and wouldn't care less that he left Miami and his perceived lack of loyalty of leaving his team during free agency.
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