State of the East

[jc3celticsphan]

with the bulls and knicks fading away and only 2 legit contenders in the conference and the pistons creeping up.

do we go for it add one more piece to this team to take it to the next level and everyone knows who that person we need to trade for (ASIK)but would it be the best decision for the future.

realistic offers. if hawks are willing to throw milsap at the rockets for the defensive specialist where does that leave us? we would most likely have to give up one of our picks plus a Forward to fill their lineup

Now we could keep our picks and shed some cap for the future which would you think is best for this current Celts roster?

also with the 3 teams i mentioned we could fill this roster to beat those teams via trade

Example Asik can stop the pacers and pistons from realy killing us in the paint but if we lost jeff green or bass who guards lebron and melo(if they make it)?

forgot nets as well

[Jailan34]

Whats the point in being the third best team with little room for growth?

I like Asik some, but like many big men he has obvious flaws, also I think like Rondo, AB, and Green he's maxed out his potential.

In my mind we might as well hold onto our picks and try to trade up in the draft/trade for a player with more potential rather than trade for Asik.

[oldtype]

Whats the point in being the third best team with little room for growth?

I like Asik some, but like many big men he has obvious flaws, also I think like Rondo, AB, and Green he's maxed out his potential.

In my mind we might as well hold onto our picks and try to trade up in the draft/trade for a player with more potential rather than trade for Asik.

I don't think we could trade into the top three of the draft even if we offered every single one of the Brooklyn and LA picks we have.

[Jailan34]

Whats the point in being the third best team with little room for growth?

I like Asik some, but like many big men he has obvious flaws, also I think like Rondo, AB, and Green he's maxed out his potential.

In my mind we might as well hold onto our picks and try to trade up in the draft/trade for a player with more potential rather than trade for Asik.

I don't think we could trade into the top three of the draft even if we offered every single one of the Brooklyn and LA picks we have.

I don't think so either, I said trade up. Trade up for Embiid from Kansas, he's a high potential big and we have the time to develop him. This draft has a pretty nice top 10, and I think we can definitely get in around the 6th with some sort of package.

[oldtype]

Whats the point in being the third best team with little room for growth?

I like Asik some, but like many big men he has obvious flaws, also I think like Rondo, AB, and Green he's maxed out his potential.

In my mind we might as well hold onto our picks and try to trade up in the draft/trade for a player with more potential rather than trade for Asik.

I don't think we could trade into the top three of the draft even if we offered every single one of the Brooklyn and LA picks we have.

I don't think so either, I said trade up. Trade up for Embiid from Kansas, he's a high potential big and we have the time to develop him. This draft has a pretty nice top 10, and I think we can definitely get in around the 6th with some sort of package.

Embiid is projected in the top 3 on some boards now, and if he would be available at 6, GMs wouldn't ever trade out of 6 for the same reasons that you want him.

[Jailan34]

Whats the point in being the third best team with little room for growth?

I like Asik some, but like many big men he has obvious flaws, also I think like Rondo, AB, and Green he's maxed out his potential.

In my mind we might as well hold onto our picks and try to trade up in the draft/trade for a player with more potential rather than trade for Asik.

I don't think we could trade into the top three of the draft even if we offered every single one of the Brooklyn and LA picks we have.

I don't think so either, I said trade up. Trade up for Embiid from Kansas, he's a high potential big and we have the time to develop him. This draft has a pretty nice top 10, and I think we can definitely get in around the 6th with some sort of package.

Embiid is projected in the top 3 on some boards now, and if he would be available at 6, GMs wouldn't ever trade out of 6 for the same reasons that you want him.

I guess we just disagree, I don't see it as that much of a long shot given just how many assets we have we can't swing a trade for the 6-8th pick. I don't think theres anyway to know for sure that GM's wouldnt do it.

This is so far into the future, the landscape can change so much, I don't think its realistic to rule anything out especially with Ainge.

But this is all really to say I don't see why on a rebuilding team I'd hitch my wagon to a fully developed big. Look what detriot did with Drummond. We've got nothing to lose trying to develop a high potential high risk big.

[oldtype]

Whats the point in being the third best team with little room for growth?

I like Asik some, but like many big men he has obvious flaws, also I think like Rondo, AB, and Green he's maxed out his potential.

In my mind we might as well hold onto our picks and try to trade up in the draft/trade for a player with more potential rather than trade for Asik.

I don't think we could trade into the top three of the draft even if we offered every single one of the Brooklyn and LA picks we have.

I don't think so either, I said trade up. Trade up for Embiid from Kansas, he's a high potential big and we have the time to develop him. This draft has a pretty nice top 10, and I think we can definitely get in around the 6th with some sort of package.

Embiid is projected in the top 3 on some boards now, and if he would be available at 6, GMs wouldn't ever trade out of 6 for the same reasons that you want him.

I guess we just disagree, I don't see it as that much of a long shot given just how many assets we have we can't swing a trade for the 6-8th pick. I don't think theres anyway to know for sure that GM's wouldnt do it.

This is so far into the future, the landscape can change so much, I don't think its realistic to rule anything out especially with Ainge.

But this is all really to say I don't see why on a rebuilding team I'd hitch my wagon to a fully developed big. Look what detriot did with Drummond. We've got nothing to lose trying to develop a high potential high risk big.

I guess so, I just see trying to get into the high lottery of the draft as a lost cause at this point. My feeling is that the top 5 of Wiggins-Parker-Randle-Embiid-Exum have been hyped to the point that people basically won't trade a pick that could net one of those for anything less than an actual star.

[Jailan34]

Whats the point in being the third best team with little room for growth?

I like Asik some, but like many big men he has obvious flaws, also I think like Rondo, AB, and Green he's maxed out his potential.

In my mind we might as well hold onto our picks and try to trade up in the draft/trade for a player with more potential rather than trade for Asik.

I don't think we could trade into the top three of the draft even if we offered every single one of the Brooklyn and LA picks we have.

I don't think so either, I said trade up. Trade up for Embiid from Kansas, he's a high potential big and we have the time to develop him. This draft has a pretty nice top 10, and I think we can definitely get in around the 6th with some sort of package.

Embiid is projected in the top 3 on some boards now, and if he would be available at 6, GMs wouldn't ever trade out of 6 for the same reasons that you want him.

I guess we just disagree, I don't see it as that much of a long shot given just how many assets we have we can't swing a trade for the 6-8th pick. I don't think theres anyway to know for sure that GM's wouldnt do it.

This is so far into the future, the landscape can change so much, I don't think its realistic to rule anything out especially with Ainge.

But this is all really to say I don't see why on a rebuilding team I'd hitch my wagon to a fully developed big. Look what detriot did with Drummond. We've got nothing to lose trying to develop a high potential high risk big.

I guess so, I just see trying to get into the high lottery of the draft as a lost cause at this point. My feeling is that the top 5 of Wiggins-Parker-Randle-Embiid-Exum have been hyped to the point that people basically won't trade a pick that could net one of those for anything less than an actual star.

That may be true, its so early its hard to tell but the hype is definitely out of control. At the same time this makes me curious.

Are you satisfied with our current assets? It sounds like you're not too impressed with our current stockpile of picks, and if so I feel the same way. Right I really only see Sully as our valuable asset, everything else feels kind of filler.

This is why I want so badly to trade up, we don't have that kind of player on our team, and while I like asik I don't think he makes a huge difference unless we have a #1 option.

I'm kind of left hoping Ainge makes a huge trade, right now its a really confusing season for me, as I imagine it is with a lot of fans.

[oldtype]

Whats the point in being the third best team with little room for growth?

I like Asik some, but like many big men he has obvious flaws, also I think like Rondo, AB, and Green he's maxed out his potential.

In my mind we might as well hold onto our picks and try to trade up in the draft/trade for a player with more potential rather than trade for Asik.

I don't think we could trade into the top three of the draft even if we offered every single one of the Brooklyn and LA picks we have.

I don't think so either, I said trade up. Trade up for Embiid from Kansas, he's a high potential big and we have the time to develop him. This draft has a pretty nice top 10, and I think we can definitely get in around the 6th with some sort of package.

Embiid is projected in the top 3 on some boards now, and if he would be available at 6, GMs wouldn't ever trade out of 6 for the same reasons that you want him.

I guess we just disagree, I don't see it as that much of a long shot given just how many assets we have we can't swing a trade for the 6-8th pick. I don't think theres anyway to know for sure that GM's wouldnt do it.

This is so far into the future, the landscape can change so much, I don't think its realistic to rule anything out especially with Ainge.

But this is all really to say I don't see why on a rebuilding team I'd hitch my wagon to a fully developed big. Look what detriot did with Drummond. We've got nothing to lose trying to develop a high potential high risk big.

I guess so, I just see trying to get into the high lottery of the draft as a lost cause at this point. My feeling is that the top 5 of Wiggins-Parker-Randle-Embiid-Exum have been hyped to the point that people basically won't trade a pick that could net one of those for anything less than an actual star.

That may be true, its so early its hard to tell but the hype is definitely out of control. At the same time this makes me curious.

Are you satisfied with our current assets? It sounds like you're not too impressed with our current stockpile of picks, and if so I feel the same way. Right I really only see Sully as our valuable asset, everything else feels kind of filler.

This is why I want so badly to trade up, we don't have that kind of player on our team, and while I like asik I don't think he makes a huge difference unless we have a #1 option.

I'm kind of left hoping Ainge makes a huge trade, right now its a really confusing season for me, as I imagine it is with a lot of fans.

I mentioned this in another post, but I think we should essentially give up on the idea that we could draft a franchise player this year and use our picks aggressively to build up on what we have (with players like Asik) and dump Wallace's salary. I think we have decent assets and while our picks may not be high, they aren't totally useless.

Put together a decent core, leave a max-contract sized hole in our salary bill, and wait and see what happens. (Alternatively, that 2016 Nets pick might strike gold...)

[Edgar]

imho if we keep picks safe due recent history
and Rondo Bradley Green ans backup Sully is our core I still work in a long term big and keep developing chemistry
theyre not playing bad ball and big contract vets just will give money to the aforedmentioned.
hopefully KO will learn how to deffend
and faverani the allforgotten is playing pretty nice in given minutes.

So size is important but is more important to add prime talent
thats made trough draft and with that many picks we are in a pretty good situation.

again given recent history

hopefully it will pan out.

[Jailan34]

Whats the point in being the third best team with little room for growth?

I like Asik some, but like many big men he has obvious flaws, also I think like Rondo, AB, and Green he's maxed out his potential.

In my mind we might as well hold onto our picks and try to trade up in the draft/trade for a player with more potential rather than trade for Asik.

I don't think we could trade into the top three of the draft even if we offered every single one of the Brooklyn and LA picks we have.

I don't think so either, I said trade up. Trade up for Embiid from Kansas, he's a high potential big and we have the time to develop him. This draft has a pretty nice top 10, and I think we can definitely get in around the 6th with some sort of package.

Embiid is projected in the top 3 on some boards now, and if he would be available at 6, GMs wouldn't ever trade out of 6 for the same reasons that you want him.

I guess we just disagree, I don't see it as that much of a long shot given just how many assets we have we can't swing a trade for the 6-8th pick. I don't think theres anyway to know for sure that GM's wouldnt do it.

This is so far into the future, the landscape can change so much, I don't think its realistic to rule anything out especially with Ainge.

But this is all really to say I don't see why on a rebuilding team I'd hitch my wagon to a fully developed big. Look what detriot did with Drummond. We've got nothing to lose trying to develop a high potential high risk big.

I guess so, I just see trying to get into the high lottery of the draft as a lost cause at this point. My feeling is that the top 5 of Wiggins-Parker-Randle-Embiid-Exum have been hyped to the point that people basically won't trade a pick that could net one of those for anything less than an actual star.

That may be true, its so early its hard to tell but the hype is definitely out of control. At the same time this makes me curious.

Are you satisfied with our current assets? It sounds like you're not too impressed with our current stockpile of picks, and if so I feel the same way. Right I really only see Sully as our valuable asset, everything else feels kind of filler.

This is why I want so badly to trade up, we don't have that kind of player on our team, and while I like asik I don't think he makes a huge difference unless we have a #1 option.

I'm kind of left hoping Ainge makes a huge trade, right now its a really confusing season for me, as I imagine it is with a lot of fans.

I mentioned this in another post, but I think we should essentially give up on the idea that we could draft a franchise player this year and use our picks aggressively to build up on what we have (with players like Asik) and dump Wallace's salary. I think we have decent assets and while our picks may not be high, they aren't totally useless.

Put together a decent core, leave a max-contract sized hole in our salary bill, and wait and see what happens. (Alternatively, that 2016 Nets pick might strike gold...)

See I just am not in love with Asik as with everyone else, also I don't think free agency is a realistic route for our team to sign a franchise player.

[oldtype]

Whats the point in being the third best team with little room for growth?

I like Asik some, but like many big men he has obvious flaws, also I think like Rondo, AB, and Green he's maxed out his potential.

In my mind we might as well hold onto our picks and try to trade up in the draft/trade for a player with more potential rather than trade for Asik.

I don't think we could trade into the top three of the draft even if we offered every single one of the Brooklyn and LA picks we have.

I don't think so either, I said trade up. Trade up for Embiid from Kansas, he's a high potential big and we have the time to develop him. This draft has a pretty nice top 10, and I think we can definitely get in around the 6th with some sort of package.

Embiid is projected in the top 3 on some boards now, and if he would be available at 6, GMs wouldn't ever trade out of 6 for the same reasons that you want him.

I guess we just disagree, I don't see it as that much of a long shot given just how many assets we have we can't swing a trade for the 6-8th pick. I don't think theres anyway to know for sure that GM's wouldnt do it.

This is so far into the future, the landscape can change so much, I don't think its realistic to rule anything out especially with Ainge.

But this is all really to say I don't see why on a rebuilding team I'd hitch my wagon to a fully developed big. Look what detriot did with Drummond. We've got nothing to lose trying to develop a high potential high risk big.

I guess so, I just see trying to get into the high lottery of the draft as a lost cause at this point. My feeling is that the top 5 of Wiggins-Parker-Randle-Embiid-Exum have been hyped to the point that people basically won't trade a pick that could net one of those for anything less than an actual star.

That may be true, its so early its hard to tell but the hype is definitely out of control. At the same time this makes me curious.

Are you satisfied with our current assets? It sounds like you're not too impressed with our current stockpile of picks, and if so I feel the same way. Right I really only see Sully as our valuable asset, everything else feels kind of filler.

This is why I want so badly to trade up, we don't have that kind of player on our team, and while I like asik I don't think he makes a huge difference unless we have a #1 option.

I'm kind of left hoping Ainge makes a huge trade, right now its a really confusing season for me, as I imagine it is with a lot of fans.

I mentioned this in another post, but I think we should essentially give up on the idea that we could draft a franchise player this year and use our picks aggressively to build up on what we have (with players like Asik) and dump Wallace's salary. I think we have decent assets and while our picks may not be high, they aren't totally useless.

Put together a decent core, leave a max-contract sized hole in our salary bill, and wait and see what happens. (Alternatively, that 2016 Nets pick might strike gold...)

See I just am not in love with Asik as with everyone else, also I don't think free agency is a realistic route for our team to sign a franchise player.

It doesn't necessarily have to be Asik, I just want us to try to improve while leaving some cap space around.

And while free agency isn't guaranteed to get us a franchise player, I think at this point it's probably more realistic than the draft.

[Edgar]

And while free agency isn't guaranteed to get us a franchise player, I think at this point it's probably more realistic than the draft.

I am not sure about this..even when I understand where it came from

[Jailan34]

And while free agency isn't guaranteed to get us a franchise player, I think at this point it's probably more realistic than the draft.

I am not sure about this..even when I understand where it came from

Yeah, I'm just not ready to rely on something thats never happened for our team in the past. We didn't become the most successful franchise in the NBA through signing big time free agents in free agency, we got here through smart drafting/trades.

[Edgar]

And while free agency isn't guaranteed to get us a franchise player, I think at this point it's probably more realistic than the draft.

I am not sure about this..even when I understand where it came from

Yeah, I'm just not ready to rely on something thats never happened for our team in the past. We didn't become the most successful franchise in the NBA through signing big time free agents in free agency, we got here through smart drafting/trades.

or lucky draft: Pierce
or somehow dead stars: Allen for delonte and Perk
or somehow still hungrystars: KG for the farm

its tough

I like how this team is drafting lately.

AB, Sully. not that they will make you champ but based on where they were picked theyre gold.
or not theyre simply good players as all in mediocre teams.

Superstars appears, from time to time, Rondo seems like an option, or not, we will see, and based on Iverson theory,in  another dimention, those stars can get you high
hopefully some of those will appear
3 wrongs 1 huge right..maybe that will work for us