Asik trade rumors (deal reportedly off)

[Ogaju]

53  pages in two days on Asik trade? Is this a record? Got to be.

Lock this thread already.

[LooseCannon]

53  pages in two days on Asik trade? Is this a record? Got to be.

I think it includes about 200 people starting threads that get merged into this one.

[j804]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/rockets/2013/12/19/omer-asik-houston-rockets-no-trade/4126647/

In recent days, many teams that had been reported as possible destinations for the disgruntled big man were known to be out of the mix. New Orleans and Milwaukee were out, meaning the Rockets couldn't land the likes of the Pelicans' Ryan Anderson or the Bucks' Ersan Ilyasova. Cleveland was only open to acting as the third team in a possible deal but was not interested in Asik, while Atlanta was said as of Wednesday to be barely involved at all.

USATODAY story just updated aside from us nobody is interested, and everybody has dropped out of the mix. Does Morey call Danny tomorrow to make the deal since they actually have till Friday to trade anyone they get?

[danglertx]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/rockets/2013/12/19/omer-asik-houston-rockets-no-trade/4126647/

In recent days, many teams that had been reported as possible destinations for the disgruntled big man were known to be out of the mix. New Orleans and Milwaukee were out, meaning the Rockets couldn't land the likes of the Pelicans' Ryan Anderson or the Bucks' Ersan Ilyasova. Cleveland was only open to acting as the third team in a possible deal but was not interested in Asik, while Atlanta was said as of Wednesday to be barely involved at all.

USATODAY story just updated aside from us nobody is interested, and everybody has dropped out of the mix. Does Morey call Danny tomorrow to make the deal since they actually have till Friday to trade anyone they get?

Houston should if they actually wants to compete for a championship.  The Rockets aren't getting a better deal by waiting longer.  His value only goes down the longer he doesn't play.  If you trade for Asik now you get him for say 60 games this year, but if you trade for him in two months you lop off another 30 games.

There also aren't teams out there who can just absorb Asik and who are in the championship hunt who will want to.  You have to figure most teams who think they have a shot at winning it all already have a post player.  The ones that don't probably don't have 8mil in salary they are willing to give up to get Asik.  Who are legit contenders?  Right now Miami and Indiana for sure in the East with Atlanta as a dark horse and out west, San Antonio, OKC, Portland, the Clippers, and maybe Houston.  What team out of those is doing a deal for Asik?  Atlanta already said no for Milsap.

I don't think Boston really wants Asik, but would do this deal just to unload Bass and Lee and their three year deals.  It isn't like Asik makes Boston contenders.  Losing Bass and Lee might actually make the team worse this year and next.

[j804]

^Yup we could be bad even with Asik which is why Ainge isn't budging on our pick. It looks like Houston would do it if it was our 1st offered but Ainge is probably trying to give them the Clippers 1st?

Though Ainge clearly could have been waiting for Morey to change his demands — one of the Celtics’ two 2014 first-rounders was thought to be the Houston GM’s target — most of the recent effort seems to have been generated by Houston.

The front office for the Celtics was wondering yesterday how the most-recent rumor gained so much momentum. Talks, according to the source, were never particularly close.

http://bostonherald.com/sports/celtics_nba/boston_celtics/2013/12/danny_ainge_won_t_rush_into_omer_asik_deal

[chambers]

has the deadline passed or is it all of Friday until midnight?

[j804]

has the deadline passed or is it all of Friday until midnight?

I think the transactions can run up until midnight and if you notify the league they'll even give you a bit more time if you're working on something. I could be wrong but thought a scenario like that has happened before.

[chambers]

has the deadline passed or is it all of Friday until midnight?

I think the transactions can run up until midnight and if you notify the league they'll even give you a bit more time if you're working on something. I could be wrong but thought a scenario like that has happened before.

Hopefully Morey is posturing.
It's still hard for me to believe he was serious about taking on Lee's 5 million for 2 more seasons though. If he wants to get that Rockets team deep in the playoffs he'll need Bass though.
Difficult situation.
I'm wondering if Danny gives up another 2nd round pick and asks for Montejunas back or something.

[j804]

has the deadline passed or is it all of Friday until midnight?

I think the transactions can run up until midnight and if you notify the league they'll even give you a bit more time if you're working on something. I could be wrong but thought a scenario like that has happened before.

Hopefully Morey is posturing.
It's still hard for me to believe he was serious about taking on Lee's 5 million for 2 more seasons though. If he wants to get that Rockets team deep in the playoffs he'll need Bass though.
Difficult situation.
I'm wondering if Danny gives up another 2nd round pick and asks for Montejunas back or something.

yea still think there's good chance this gets done since they aren't getting Hawes or Millsap. Bass is the prefect pick and pop guy to spread the floor and somebody you can throw at Griffin or Tiago. If they think they can reach the finals and might see Indiana he's a great matchup with West.

[chambers]

has the deadline passed or is it all of Friday until midnight?

I think the transactions can run up until midnight and if you notify the league they'll even give you a bit more time if you're working on something. I could be wrong but thought a scenario like that has happened before.

Hopefully Morey is posturing.
It's still hard for me to believe he was serious about taking on Lee's 5 million for 2 more seasons though. If he wants to get that Rockets team deep in the playoffs he'll need Bass though.
Difficult situation.
I'm wondering if Danny gives up another 2nd round pick and asks for Montejunas back or something.

yea still think there's good chance this gets done since they aren't getting Hawes or Millsap. Bass is the prefect pick and pop guy to spread the floor and somebody you can throw at Griffin or Tiago. If they think they can reach the finals and might see Indiana he's a great matchup with West.

Exactly, his versatility on defense in the playoffs will be huge. Taking Griffin away from the rim with that 15 footer leaving Dwight and D Jordan alone.
Taking Gasol/Kaman away to leave Dwight solo. Similar to KG although he just plays more perimeter and doesn't roll as much
You are 100% spot on. TP. Morey must take this deal the more you think about it. Value will only go down as playoffs approach.

[pokeKingCurtis]

has the deadline passed or is it all of Friday until midnight?

I think the transactions can run up until midnight and if you notify the league they'll even give you a bit more time if you're working on something. I could be wrong but thought a scenario like that has happened before.

Hopefully Morey is posturing.
It's still hard for me to believe he was serious about taking on Lee's 5 million for 2 more seasons though. If he wants to get that Rockets team deep in the playoffs he'll need Bass though.
Difficult situation.
I'm wondering if Danny gives up another 2nd round pick and asks for Montejunas back or something.

yea still think there's good chance this gets done since they aren't getting Hawes or Millsap. Bass is the prefect pick and pop guy to spread the floor and somebody you can throw at Griffin or Tiago. If they think they can reach the finals and might see Indiana he's a great matchup with West.

Exactly, his versatility on defense in the playoffs will be huge. Taking Griffin away from the rim with that 15 footer leaving Dwight and D Jordan alone.
Taking Gasol/Kaman away to leave Dwight solo. Similar to KG although he just plays more perimeter and doesn't roll as much
You are 100% spot on. TP. Morey must take this deal the more you think about it. Value will only go down as playoffs approach.

Morey seems to envision multi-year contention, wanting to free up space to re-up Parsons. He does not seem as pressed to acquire the likes of Bass as you say he should be.

But Dwight has been and seems to continue being on the decline. Maybe Morey's just bluffing?

Who knows.

[droopdog7]

You guys are seriously overvaluing Bass.  He's not a stretch your.  He won't open up much space for Dwight.  And he's not worth a guy like asik; not even close.

[D.o.s.]

Somewhere in this behemoth of a thread, a poster brought up the idea that Morey wouldn't pull the trigger on this trade because it wasn't obvious to the fawning masses that he was fleecing the other team involved.

I think there's some merit to that idea.

[Fafnir]

Somewhere in this behemoth of a thread, a poster brought up the idea that Morey wouldn't pull the trigger on this trade because it wasn't obvious to the fawning masses that he was fleecing the other team involved.

I think there's some merit to that idea.

I don't think its an ego thing as much as it is that his fake deadline tactic didn't work to bring out multiple offers.

He wants rotation player(s) and a good pick for Asik. Bass/Lee/C's pick (but protected) was the best offer. That's not a clear win so why pull the trigger now? An injury might make a team desperate and up their bid after all.

[D.o.s.]

Somewhere in this behemoth of a thread, a poster brought up the idea that Morey wouldn't pull the trigger on this trade because it wasn't obvious to the fawning masses that he was fleecing the other team involved.

I think there's some merit to that idea.

I don't think its an ego thing as much as it is that his fake deadline tactic didn't work to bring out multiple offers.

He wants rotation player(s) and a good pick for Asik. Bass/Lee/C's pick (but protected) was the best offer. That's not a clear win so why pull the trigger now? An injury might make a team desperate and up their bid after all.

I mean, you're almost certainly right, I just really enjoy the idea of Morey sitting at his desk with an RSS update for "Asik trade" and ultimately calling the whole thing off because the response from fans and media types isn't entirely positive.