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Rondo+ Carmelo+ (insert player here?) on Celtics= Legit contender.
« on: December 07, 2013, 08:41:35 AM »

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So what's the likely-hood Melo puts it together and realizes that Boston is just a better managed organization- and he'll have a better chance at a championship in Boston?

PG Rondo *14 million
SG ??? (draft pick ie: Selden around 8th-12th?)
SF Melo *18 million
PF Sully (or trade Sully for a center, because Melo can play small ball PF like Lebron)
C/PF  ???15-18 million x 4 years.

Options for PF/Center...
*Greg Monroe
*Chris Bosh
*Tyson Chandler
*LaMarcus Aldridge

*We'd basically have to trade Green, could trade Avery and J Craw. Maybe Olynyk and Faverani...as well as some picks. *Hopefully Lee is includes for salaries.
*Bass can fetch his own worth. In fact we could keep Bass as a big off the bench if we are going for a contender rebuild. His 6 million is ALOT of that cap with 3 stars though so he probably has to go out in a trade for one of them.

*We must go into luxury tax.
Some people are saying Marc Gasol and he'd be my number 1 option, even ahead of Bosh- but he loves the Grizzlies and he's an FA the year after Rondo (If I remember correctly). Unless he's injured I think they do everything they can do re-sign him.

We probably need a running big that protects the rim.
Maybe Tyson Chandler next to Sully?

We've also read the rumors about Carmelo already deciding that he's leaving the Knicks- we've also read Carmelo upset with the Knicks and his bum squad. Even when Chandler gets back they'll still stink for the most part. I'm assuming they'll be better than us, but they won't come close to competing with anyone other than Detroit and Atlanta or Brooklyn. (assuming those teams are healthy).

We also heard about an old coach from Oak Hill claiming Melo was actively recruiting Rondo. ( You don't have to be a genius to know this- Melo's been reported to have continuously asked the Knicks to try and get Rondo in blue and Orange.)

Anyway, the Knicks salary situation is so bad that they won't be able to get Rondo until he's a free agent. They don't have any young talent other than Shumpert and Hardaway and no picks until 2027. Well maybe earlier.


Who would you put with Melo and Rondo?
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Re: Rondo+ Carmelo+ (insert player here?) on Celtics= Legit contender.
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2013, 08:47:10 AM »

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I have some doubts that Melo will ever contend for anything. I'm starting to see him as a slightly more successful TMac
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2013, 08:52:08 AM »

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Quote from: eja117 on December 07, 2013, 08:47:10 AM
I have some doubts that Melo will ever contend for anything. I'm starting to see him as a slightly more successful TMac

Number 1, Melo hasnt been hurt like T-Mac at all. 2, T-Mac never had anyone good to play with. 3, all this anti-Melo talk reminds me a LOT of the anti-Pierce talk circa 2007.

Melo and PP are the EXACT same player. Their games are built on deception and scoring, you bring Melo in to the C's and he will perform extremely well. No one believed that "selfish" Paul Pierce  was going to buy in, but he did. Why can't Melo? Why not Melo? Because he's been on crappy teams his whole career?
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2013, 10:04:07 AM »

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i'd trade rondo to keep Carmelo off this team.
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2013, 10:10:36 AM »

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Melo has never made anyone a contender period.   I don't see how people don't get it.   He is a productive player who scores a lot albeit inefficiently who loses in the playoffs.
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2013, 10:12:56 AM »

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Quote from: Celtics4ever on December 07, 2013, 10:10:36 AM
Melo has never made anyone a contender period.   I don't see how people don't get it.   He is a productive player who scores a lot albeit inefficiently who loses in the playoffs.

Sounds like Paul Pierce before 2008.
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2013, 10:30:30 AM »

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Quote from: Bosstown on December 07, 2013, 10:12:56 AM
Quote from: Celtics4ever on December 07, 2013, 10:10:36 AM
Melo has never made anyone a contender period.   I don't see how people don't get it.   He is a productive player who scores a lot albeit inefficiently who loses in the playoffs.

Sounds like Paul Pierce before 2008.

pierce did more with less than melo ever has.
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2013, 10:37:18 AM »

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Quote from: Bosstown on December 07, 2013, 08:52:08 AM
Quote from: eja117 on December 07, 2013, 08:47:10 AM
I have some doubts that Melo will ever contend for anything. I'm starting to see him as a slightly more successful TMac

Number 1, Melo hasnt been hurt like T-Mac at all. 2, T-Mac never had anyone good to play with. 3, all this anti-Melo talk reminds me a LOT of the anti-Pierce talk circa 2007.

Melo and PP are the EXACT same player. Their games are built on deception and scoring, you bring Melo in to the C's and he will perform extremely well. No one believed that "selfish" Paul Pierce  was going to buy in, but he did. Why can't Melo? Why not Melo? Because he's been on crappy teams his whole career?
Melo is not a team player, too low BBall IQ
and will do damage to your locker room
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2013, 10:46:37 AM »

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Quote from: GreenWarrior on December 07, 2013, 10:30:30 AM
Quote from: Bosstown on December 07, 2013, 10:12:56 AM
Quote from: Celtics4ever on December 07, 2013, 10:10:36 AM
Melo has never made anyone a contender period.   I don't see how people don't get it.   He is a productive player who scores a lot albeit inefficiently who loses in the playoffs.

Sounds like Paul Pierce before 2008.

pierce did more with less than melo ever has.

You're being extremely biased and forgetful or you didn't watch Pierce before 2008. Pierce was bounced out of the playoffs constantly, the only time we came close was when we almost beat the Nets in a TERRIBLE Eastern Conference in the early 2000s. Pierce had NO ONE, and neither does Melo. Their games are identical.
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2013, 10:50:36 AM »

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Quote from: playdream on December 07, 2013, 10:37:18 AM
Quote from: Bosstown on December 07, 2013, 08:52:08 AM
Quote from: eja117 on December 07, 2013, 08:47:10 AM
I have some doubts that Melo will ever contend for anything. I'm starting to see him as a slightly more successful TMac

Number 1, Melo hasnt been hurt like T-Mac at all. 2, T-Mac never had anyone good to play with. 3, all this anti-Melo talk reminds me a LOT of the anti-Pierce talk circa 2007.

Melo and PP are the EXACT same player. Their games are built on deception and scoring, you bring Melo in to the C's and he will perform extremely well. No one believed that "selfish" Paul Pierce  was going to buy in, but he did. Why can't Melo? Why not Melo? Because he's been on crappy teams his whole career?
Melo is not a team player, too low BBall IQ
and will do damage to your locker room


THEY SAID ALL OF THIS STUFF ABOUT PAUL TOO.

You guys are being ridiculously hard on Melo for NO reason. Paul was seen as a selfish, me first player league wide.
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2013, 11:04:53 AM »

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Quote from: Bosstown on December 07, 2013, 08:52:08 AM
Quote from: eja117 on December 07, 2013, 08:47:10 AM
I have some doubts that Melo will ever contend for anything. I'm starting to see him as a slightly more successful TMac

Number 1, Melo hasnt been hurt like T-Mac at all. 2, T-Mac never had anyone good to play with. 3, all this anti-Melo talk reminds me a LOT of the anti-Pierce talk circa 2007.

Melo and PP are the EXACT same player. Their games are built on deception and scoring, you bring Melo in to the C's and he will perform extremely well. No one believed that "selfish" Paul Pierce  was going to buy in, but he did. Why can't Melo? Why not Melo? Because he's been on crappy teams his whole career?

Melo had some pretty good teams in Denver. Iverson and melo couldn't play all that well together but they were still a good team. His nyk teams have never been a serious threat. Anyone saying they don't want melo on their team is confusing to me. Insert melo on our team and I think we are a legit playoff team. I think if we add melo and a defensive big and we are looking good. Need to hold onto sully tho
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2013, 11:17:39 AM »

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With all due respect, Melo can only dream about having a carer similar to Paul. No way i would like melo on the celtics. Melo will shoot his team in or out of the game, and until that is so, no way he passes a serious team in a 7 game series
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2013, 11:18:18 AM »

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Pierce had a special circumstance that probably helped with his transformation- the personality of KG.

I think it would take very special circumstances to get a similar transformation from Melo such as him joining the Spurs.  I don't see many other scenarios that would cause much of a change in Melo at this point.  Maybe playing with Chris Paul would help also.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2013, 11:25:18 AM »

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I think him playing with an elite point guard to regulate his touches would get him to take better shots and elevate him to a championship level player.

I do think a squad built around Rondo, a good defensive big and Melo could compete for a title
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2013, 11:42:54 AM »

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Quote from: Bosstown on December 07, 2013, 10:46:37 AM
Quote from: GreenWarrior on December 07, 2013, 10:30:30 AM
Quote from: Bosstown on December 07, 2013, 10:12:56 AM
Quote from: Celtics4ever on December 07, 2013, 10:10:36 AM
Melo has never made anyone a contender period.   I don't see how people don't get it.   He is a productive player who scores a lot albeit inefficiently who loses in the playoffs.

Sounds like Paul Pierce before 2008.

pierce did more with less than melo ever has.

You're being extremely biased and forgetful or you didn't watch Pierce before 2008. Pierce was bounced out of the playoffs constantly, the only time we came close was when we almost beat the Nets in a TERRIBLE Eastern Conference in the early 2000s. Pierce had NO ONE, and neither does Melo. Their games are identical.

the eastern conference right now is very similar to the EC then. let's hear the excuses why melo isn't producing the same results that pierce was able to back then.

like I said in another thread, pierce would have killed to play with the talent that melo has had through the course of his career.

these guys are not similar in any way. everything they said melo was supposed to be, pierce actually was.
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