By piece I'm going to assume you mean trade piece and if thats the case by far big AL.

Sully is skilled, but hes limited by his size and athleticism, he has a defined ceiling.

In big AL many gm's saw huge potential which he never truly met. However, at the time he was a very attractive prospect with a lot of value.

Quote from: Jailan34 on December 06, 2013, 06:41:38 PM

By piece I'm going to assume you mean trade piece and if thats the case by far big AL.

Sully is skilled, but hes limited by his size and athleticism, he has a defined ceiling.

In big AL many gm's saw huge potential which he never truly met. However, at the time he was a very attractive prospect with a lot of value.

According to DraftExpress, Jefferson has less than an inch on Sully and actually has a lower vertical than him.

By piece I'm going to assume you mean trade piece and if thats the case by far big AL.

Sully is skilled, but hes limited by his size and athleticism, he has a defined ceiling.

In big AL many gm's saw huge potential which he never truly met. However, at the time he was a very attractive prospect with a lot of value.

Quote from: Jailan34 on December 06, 2013, 06:41:38 PM

By piece I'm going to assume you mean trade piece and if thats the case by far big AL.

Sully is skilled, but hes limited by his size and athleticism, he has a defined ceiling.

In big AL many gm's saw huge potential which he never truly met. However, at the time he was a very attractive prospect with a lot of value.

I wouldn't say "by far" but I do think that many people saw Big Al as a possible multi-time All-Star while Sully does not seem to have the same perceived ceiling. I'm not sure why, to be honest.

Also, while Sully appears healthy now I would guess that his back issues are still a damper on his trade value.

Quote from: Boris Badenov on December 06, 2013, 07:17:53 PM

Quote from: Jailan34 on December 06, 2013, 06:41:38 PM

By piece I'm going to assume you mean trade piece and if thats the case by far big AL.

Sully is skilled, but hes limited by his size and athleticism, he has a defined ceiling.

In big AL many gm's saw huge potential which he never truly met. However, at the time he was a very attractive prospect with a lot of value.

I wouldn't say "by far" but I do think that many people saw Big Al as a possible multi-time All-Star while Sully does not seem to have the same perceived ceiling. I'm not sure why, to be honest.

Also, while Sully appears healthy now I would guess that his back issues are still a damper on his trade value.

I disagree, I say mostly everyone can agree that Sully's ceiling is david west, make a couple all star teams at best and be a really reliable rebounding big with a nice mid range game.

I'm willing to bet some GM's looked at big AL and thought
" theres my 20-10 big man, we can coach him up, better shot selection, play more D and he could be a franchise guy."

Which is why he was traded for KG, could picks and sully get us a similar type player? I'd say no.

Quote from: Jailan34 on December 06, 2013, 06:41:38 PM

By piece I'm going to assume you mean trade piece and if thats the case by far big AL.

Sully is skilled, but hes limited by his size and athleticism, he has a defined ceiling.

In big AL many gm's saw huge potential which he never truly met. However, at the time he was a very attractive prospect with a lot of value.

  If you compare Sully's current season to Al's season the year before he was traded they're pretty even:

http://bkref.com/tiny/0tb8k

  Slight edge to Al, but keep in mind he'd played about 2.5 times as many minutes in the nba before those seasons. I can see teams being wary of Sully's back but that's the only real reason to say Al's ceiling was much higher than Sully's. Al was the better rebounder and low post scorer, Sully's the better defender, passer and ball-handler and is probably a more versatile scorer than Al was at the time.