Give me your best non-tanking rebuilding plan!

[Jailan34]

So Drogba...

How do you propose they acquire Hayward and Gasol (Marc or Pau?)?

Also, you've slotted the draft pick to be a wing player. Who do you like? Robinson? Selden? Young? Hood? Going broke for Wiggins or Parker?

I got to admit pulling it out would be almost impossible realistically but here I'm talking about not so irrealistic dreams of Hayward pouting and not happy and wanted to join the Celtics and HIS coach forcing a sign and trade, and PAU Gasol deciding it's time to go try something new and the lakers not interested in resigning him in favor of some young center not fitting quite well with their teams new additions (Monroe...?)
So I will skip the details and just put the money in and out here, you decide who goes where... Here it is :
Trade Exceptions = 10m
Bigs : Bass + Humpries = 20m
Guards : Lee + Wallace + Bogans + Brooks = 22m
so that's 42m  and a 10 mil trade exception and a bunch of 1st round picks to try and get 2 players... :-)

It's an interesting plan, but in my opinion it doesn't make us better than either MIA or IND, so we'd be stuck in NBA limbo. I can't see mortgaging our future for a chance to win now when the chance isn't that great.

[chambers]

Regarding Hayward, Utah has the money to keep him and they hold his restricted FA rights, but prior to the extension deadline, they did not value him at the amount he was asking for.

Both Boston and Phoenix are expected to be in the bidding for his services in addition to Utah - so if both are willing to pay more than Utah, it will come down to who has better sign and trade assets and the player's preference. I think the Stevens' connection is more powerful than the Hornacek one. I also think Bradley or Green is a better trade asset than Bledsoe (unlikely to be traded), Gerald Green, or one of the Morris twins.

The only downside to his acquisition is that the Cs will have to overpay for his services in order to make the Jazz not want to match.

What is this fascniation with Gordon Hayward?
Do people honestly think Danny Ainge is going to sign this kid to the money the market will be asking for him?

There is not one line up that is a legitimate threat for a championship that includes the salaries of Rondo and Gordon Hayward.
If there is, lay it out for me and do your best.
We have Jeff Green at 8-9 million, they are clones except one is white and one is black- one is a slightly better shooter and one is a far better defender.

I just don't get this fascination of the kid. He's good, but he's not taking anyone to the NBA finals. He's the definition of overpaid mediocrity.

[BirdMchaleParish]

1)Look to combine Wallace with a cheap contract such as Bradley or Crawford to lower our cap next year.
2) Draft BPA
3 Use possible cap space to sign BPA
3) Offer Celtics 2015,2017,2019 picks with 2015 clippers, and 2016, and 2018 Nets Pick to get best player possible.

I would think we could get a nice free agent since we will have near maximum money due to step 1. I would think we should be able to get an all star in that trade since we are giving 6 picks. With Rondo we should be in the conversation for an NBA Championship

[jdz101]

Regarding Hayward, Utah has the money to keep him and they hold his restricted FA rights, but prior to the extension deadline, they did not value him at the amount he was asking for.

Both Boston and Phoenix are expected to be in the bidding for his services in addition to Utah - so if both are willing to pay more than Utah, it will come down to who has better sign and trade assets and the player's preference. I think the Stevens' connection is more powerful than the Hornacek one. I also think Bradley or Green is a better trade asset than Bledsoe (unlikely to be traded), Gerald Green, or one of the Morris twins.

The only downside to his acquisition is that the Cs will have to overpay for his services in order to make the Jazz not want to match.

What is this fascniation with Gordon Hayward?
Do people honestly think Danny Ainge is going to sign this kid to the money the market will be asking for him?

There is not one line up that is a legitimate threat for a championship that includes the salaries of Rondo and Gordon Hayward.
If there is, lay it out for me and do your best.
We have Jeff Green at 8-9 million, they are clones except one is white and one is black- one is a slightly better shooter and one is a far better defender.

I just don't get this fascination of the kid. He's good, but he's not taking anyone to the NBA finals. He's the definition of overpaid mediocrity.

Agreed.

Hayward is a good (not great) player on a pretty horrible team. Makes him seem better than he is.

I think Kevin Love can be had. Even though the pull of LA will be strong I'm not sure Love is the kind of guy that will care that much about sunshine or nightlife. I think he cares more about playing for a winning franchise.

[LooseCannon]

1)Look to combine Wallace with a cheap contract such as Bradley or Crawford to lower our cap next year.

The rumor is that it will take at least one first round pick, maybe two, to unload Wallace's contract.

[jdz101]

1)Look to combine Wallace with a cheap contract such as Bradley or Crawford to lower our cap next year.

The rumor is that it will take at least one first round pick, maybe two, to unload Wallace's contract.

Two first round picks to unload a guy who after this year is 2 years at 10 million per? I think I'll just deal with the cap hit thanks.

[LooseCannon]

1)Look to combine Wallace with a cheap contract such as Bradley or Crawford to lower our cap next year.

The rumor is that it will take at least one first round pick, maybe two, to unload Wallace's contract.

Two first round picks to unload a guy who after this year is 2 years at 10 million per? I think I'll just deal with the cap hit thanks.

Golden State basically gave the Jazz two first round picks to take on $20 million in contracts, so I'd estimate the market for dumping a bad contract is a first for every $10 million or so you want to get rid of.

[Moranis]

Just out of curiosity would this be considered a "tanking" trade

Boston - Waiters, Bennett
Cleveland - Deng, Bradley
Chicago - Green, Gee

I see Waiters scoring as much needed for this team and he seems like a general upgrade over Bradley, and sure Bennett isn't as good as Green, but I don't think Boston loses much plugging Wallace into the starting lineup with Bennett backing him up.  Waiters is also locked up longer than Bradley and Bennett is cheaper than Green so there is some financial incentive as well.

[BleedGreen1989]

1)Look to combine Wallace with a cheap contract such as Bradley or Crawford to lower our cap next year.

The rumor is that it will take at least one first round pick, maybe two, to unload Wallace's contract.

Two first round picks to unload a guy who after this year is 2 years at 10 million per? I think I'll just deal with the cap hit thanks.

Golden State basically gave the Jazz two first round picks to take on $20 million in contracts, so I'd estimate the market for dumping a bad contract is a first for every $10 million or so you want to get rid of.

Yeah and it was part of a plan as GS quickly turned around and signed Iggy.

I'm not giving up assets to dump Wallace unless Danny has a similar plan in mind.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

This is a Simmons idea (sort of) and I like it.

Make a trade scenario that involves Jeff Green and Greg Monroe swapping teams.

And to add mine.

Put Wallace and anything outside of Sully and the C's 2014 pick and trade for Rudy Gay.


Rondo, Gay, Monroe and Sullinger. Not the most likeable core but a talented one at that. Then we go from there. (especially Gay, but I like him and I think he's very good despite the inefficiency)

In fact, i'll do it on my 2K14 Assoc. Mode..   

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

1)Look to combine Wallace with a cheap contract such as Bradley or Crawford to lower our cap next year.

The rumor is that it will take at least one first round pick, maybe two, to unload Wallace's contract.

Two first round picks to unload a guy who after this year is 2 years at 10 million per? I think I'll just deal with the cap hit thanks.

for real.

[manl_lui]

This is a Simmons idea (sort of) and I like it.

Make a trade scenario that involves Jeff Green and Greg Monroe swapping teams.

And to add mine.

Put Wallace and anything outside of Sully and the C's 2014 pick and trade for Rudy Gay.


Rondo, Gay, Monroe and Sullinger. Not the most likeable core but a talented one at that. Then we go from there. (especially Gay, but I like him and I think he's very good despite the inefficiency)

In fact, i'll do it on my 2K14 Assoc. Mode..   

no association mode for me in ps4

although, Gay would not be a first option on this team. I would go for Sully or Greg Monroe at that point with Rondo being a 2nd.

[ssspence]

Simple:

1) Trade Rondo with Wallace and Lee to a sucker team for picks and young assets;

2) Trade Green and Bass each for expirings and an asset;

3) Trade the PP exception for a young asset;

4) Draft well over the next two drafts, both projected to be strong.

5) With all that salary flexibility, those young players and picks, trade for, sign and trade for, or sign, a top 20 player to go with and fit with the ones we've developed in house... and potentially even sign two max guys together, if that flexibility is deep enough.

Read: 2014 Rockets, 2008 Celtics, 2011 Heat, etc. In other words, do what Ryan McDonaugh is doing. 

[LarBrd33]

Here's my Anti-Tank Option.

#1 - Land the Disgraced Franchise Player from a Panicking Team with No Draft picks:

Boston Trades:

Jeff Green - 3 years 8.7 mil
Brandon Bass - 2 years 6.4 mil
Courtney Lee - 3 years 5.2 mil
Gerald Wallace - 3 years 10.1 mil
Kris Humphries - 12 mil expiring
2014 Boston 1st rounder (15-25)
2014 Nets Hawks 1st rounder (20ish)
2016 Nets 1st rounder
2016 Celtics 1st rounder

Knicks Trade:

Carmelo Anthony - 2 years 21 mil
Amare Stoudamire's Corpse - 2 years 21 mil

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lddatux


#2 - Land the defensive big with bust potential

Boston trades: 

Kelly Olynyk - 4 years 2 mil
2015 Clippers 1st rounder
Paul Pierce trade exception

Houston trades:

Omar Asik - 2 years 8.3 mil

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=khdv5yt


#3 - Make a playoff run this year

PG - Rondo
SG - Crawford
SF - Melo
PF - Sully
C - Asik
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PG/SG - Bradley
PF/C - Fav


#4 - Superstar Pipe Dream in 2014-15

*At the 2014/15 Deadline

Boston Trades:

Amare's Corpse - 21 mil expiring
Jared Sullinger - 2 years 1.3 mil
2015 Boston 1st rounder
2017 Boston 1st rounder
2017 Nets swap option
2018 Nets 1st rounder
2018 Boston 1st rounder

Timberwolves Trade:

Kevin Love - 14.6 mil... must sign extension
5-10 mil Bad Contracts of Wolves choosing (Wait to see who gets injured... K-Mart, Buddinger and Brewer all will have 3 years left on their deals)



#5 - 3-5 year Window

New Big 3:

Rondo (29 years old)
Kevin Love (26 years old)
Melo (30 years old) 

Also possibly still have Bradley, Crawford and Asik (expiring)

[ssspence]

Here's my Anti-Tank Option.

#1 - Land the Disgraced Franchise Player from a Panicking Team with No Draft picks:

Boston Trades:

Jeff Green - 3 years 8.7 mil
Brandon Bass - 2 years 6.4 mil
Courtney Lee - 3 years 5.2 mil
Gerald Wallace - 3 years 10.1 mil
Kris Humphries - 12 mil expiring
2014 Boston 1st rounder (15-25)
2014 Nets Hawks 1st rounder (20ish)
2016 Nets 1st rounder
2016 Celtics 1st rounder

Knicks Trade:

Carmelo Anthony - 2 years 21 mil
Amare Stoudamire's Corpse - 2 years 21 mil

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lddatux


#2 - Land the defensive big with bust potential

Boston trades: 

Kelly Olynyk - 4 years 2 mil
2015 Clippers 1st rounder
Paul Pierce trade exception

Houston trades:

Omar Asik - 2 years 8.3 mil

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=khdv5yt

Jeff Green, Brandon Bass and 4 first round picks for Carmelo Anthony? Did somebody step on a duck?

fyi, players can't be combined with trade exceptions, i believe. not sure why the trade machine accepts that.