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Re: Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks?
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2013, 09:39:16 AM »

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Pure salary dump.  Not saying I would do this, but I think Ainge would probably at least consider it (if he liked Larkin).

Rondo, Wallace, Bass, Lee

for

Larkin, Marion, Wright, Ellington, Dalembert, Ledo, Crowder, Blair, 2016 1st, 3 million cash (to buy out some players which are only included to get the salary up)

Trade can't be made until January 15th at the earliest so if Rondo is back by then, it might work.  And again, I probably wouldn't do this, but I think it is something Boston wouldn't immediately reject given the massive salary savings the trade would bring.


I just can't see Danny trading away Rondo for cap space.  I'm as willing as anyone to believe that Danny could trade Rondo, but there will have to be significant return.  There's never been any serious report or rumor to the contrary.  If Rondo gets traded, the Celtics will get significant current and future assets in return.  It won't be a straight up salary dump / tanking move.


Also, honestly, I don't see the motivation for the Mavericks.  They are doing quite well with Calderon and Ellis as the backcourt.  Rondo would likely not fit (at all) with Ellis. 

If the Mavericks are going to make a move to get better for this season or next, it makes far more sense to try to upgrade at the 3 or the 5.

12 person trades between only two teams dont happen very often...Like...Ever.
It would be a lot less people if Ellis or Calderon were included, you then cut out a lot of the people only in there for salary (i.e. put in Calderon and you can remove Dalembert, Ellington, Blair, Ledo, and Crowder).  That also might work, especially if you got a third team to take on Calderon and something else went to Boston.  I just figured if you had more talent then Dallas probably wouldn't give up the 1st, so I didn't go that route.
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Re: Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks?
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2013, 01:52:49 PM »

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Pure salary dump.  Not saying I would do this, but I think Ainge would probably at least consider it (if he liked Larkin).

Rondo, Wallace, Bass, Lee

for

Larkin, Marion, Wright, Ellington, Dalembert, Ledo, Crowder, Blair, 2016 1st, 3 million cash (to buy out some players which are only included to get the salary up)

Trade can't be made until January 15th at the earliest so if Rondo is back by then, it might work.  And again, I probably wouldn't do this, but I think it is something Boston wouldn't immediately reject given the massive salary savings the trade would bring.

That is really far fetched.  In my opinion, the reason Danny recently came out so strongly with his comments about not trading Rondo is not so much because Rondo is untradable.  We all know that nobody is %100 untradable.  But, rather, I believe it's because he wants to put an end to the kind of rumors that has Rondo traded away for "cap space and prospects" as the refrain goes. 

He is not going to listen to offers like the one you posted above, and he wants the world--and other GMs--to know that these kinds of proposal are a complete waste of time. 

Not happening. 
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Re: Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks?
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2013, 02:43:16 PM »

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Yeah, I just don't think Dallas makes a good trade partner with the Celtics.


Re: Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks?
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2013, 02:55:03 PM »

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Danny's not going to trade his one racehorse for a stable of ponies, no matter what salaries are bundled in.

Re: Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks?
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2013, 03:17:58 PM »

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Danny's not going to trade his one racehorse for a stable of ponies, no matter what salaries are bundled in.

I agree with this - if DA trades Rondo, he wants a prospect like Drummond in return.  I don't get why Dumars isn't going all in on Rondo, he is a perfect fit on that team.  Rondo, Monroe, Smith would push them for a top 4 seed in the east. 

Re: Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks?
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2013, 03:37:15 PM »

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Danny's not going to trade his one racehorse for a stable of ponies, no matter what salaries are bundled in.

I agree with this - if DA trades Rondo, he wants a prospect like Drummond in return.  I don't get why Dumars isn't going all in on Rondo, he is a perfect fit on that team.  Rondo, Monroe, Smith would push them for a top 4 seed in the east.

I think they see Drummond as the guy they want to build around and would rather pitch deals involving Monroe if they are going to make a trade.
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Re: Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks?
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2013, 03:39:00 PM »

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Danny's not going to trade his one racehorse for a stable of ponies, no matter what salaries are bundled in.

I agree with this - if DA trades Rondo, he wants a prospect like Drummond in return.  I don't get why Dumars isn't going all in on Rondo, he is a perfect fit on that team.  Rondo, Monroe, Smith would push them for a top 4 seed in the east.

I think they see Drummond as the guy they want to build around and would rather pitch deals involving Monroe if they are going to make a trade.

Yea - not sure I would deal Rondo for deal around Monroe?

Re: Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks?
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2013, 03:49:15 PM »

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Pure salary dump.  Not saying I would do this, but I think Ainge would probably at least consider it (if he liked Larkin).

Rondo, Wallace, Bass, Lee

for

Larkin, Marion, Wright, Ellington, Dalembert, Ledo, Crowder, Blair, 2016 1st, 3 million cash (to buy out some players which are only included to get the salary up)

Trade can't be made until January 15th at the earliest so if Rondo is back by then, it might work.  And again, I probably wouldn't do this, but I think it is something Boston wouldn't immediately reject given the massive salary savings the trade would bring.

The only thing with this is that Boston isn't an organization that signs big name free agents. PP, KG, Ray, Rondo and even now with Sullinger, Green and AB were all acquired via trade or draft. So there's not much point in trading an All Star point guard just to free up room. I'm sure DA would like to trim the fat of Wallace, Lee, and Bass' contracts, but there's no reason to waste a great player and valuable asset to do so. That's just my perspective though.

Re: Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks?
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2013, 03:52:03 PM »

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Pure salary dump.  Not saying I would do this, but I think Ainge would probably at least consider it (if he liked Larkin).

Rondo, Wallace, Bass, Lee

for

Larkin, Marion, Wright, Ellington, Dalembert, Ledo, Crowder, Blair, 2016 1st, 3 million cash (to buy out some players which are only included to get the salary up)

Trade can't be made until January 15th at the earliest so if Rondo is back by then, it might work.  And again, I probably wouldn't do this, but I think it is something Boston wouldn't immediately reject given the massive salary savings the trade would bring.

The only thing with this is that Boston isn't an organization that signs big name free agents. PP, KG, Ray, Rondo and even now with Sullinger, Green and AB were all acquired via trade or draft. So there's not much point in trading an All Star point guard just to free up room. I'm sure DA would like to trim the fat of Wallace, Lee, and Bass' contracts, but there's no reason to waste a great player and valuable asset to do so. That's just my perspective though.

  Boston also isn't an organization that trades young(ish) talented players away to save money. At least not since Pitino left.

Re: Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks?
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2013, 03:57:30 PM »

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Pure salary dump.  Not saying I would do this, but I think Ainge would probably at least consider it (if he liked Larkin).

Rondo, Wallace, Bass, Lee

for

Larkin, Marion, Wright, Ellington, Dalembert, Ledo, Crowder, Blair, 2016 1st, 3 million cash (to buy out some players which are only included to get the salary up)

Trade can't be made until January 15th at the earliest so if Rondo is back by then, it might work.  And again, I probably wouldn't do this, but I think it is something Boston wouldn't immediately reject given the massive salary savings the trade would bring.

The only thing with this is that Boston isn't an organization that signs big name free agents. PP, KG, Ray, Rondo and even now with Sullinger, Green and AB were all acquired via trade or draft. So there's not much point in trading an All Star point guard just to free up room. I'm sure DA would like to trim the fat of Wallace, Lee, and Bass' contracts, but there's no reason to waste a great player and valuable asset to do so. That's just my perspective though.
Boston also isn't an organization that has had cap room in the modern era.  Who knows if they could sign anyone if they had actual room to do so.
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Re: Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks?
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2013, 04:09:36 PM »

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The only thing with this is that Boston isn't an organization that signs big name free agents.

Big name free agents either want to get paid or want to play for a winner.  For the Celtics to get one, they either have to clear cap space for someone who other teams aren't willing to pay the max for or they need to have a playoff team with cap space (or a near-playoff team such as Houston last season).

The Celtics could spend some picks to create cap space the way Golden State did.  Or they could do a sign-and-trade.  (Iguodala was a S&T, but only after the Warriors were able to threaten to sign him outright so that the Nuggets had to agree to a deal or get nothing.)

In the summer of 2014, the Celtics can use the expiring contract of Brandon Bass and the non-guaranteed contract of Keith Bogans as trade ballast.  In the summer of 2015, they can put together the expiring contracts of Gerald Wallace and Courtney Lee.  Combine that with multiple draft picks and a deal is possible.

I don't think Ainge is interested in overpaying certain types of players, so his strategy should be to build a young, winning team with a highly-regarded coach that is perceived as being on the upswing in order to attract a quality free agent.  The ideal target is probably a player who has already had his big contract and now is more focused on winning.

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Re: Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks?
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2013, 04:11:20 PM »

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Is that was passes as journalism these days?

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