We need to trade all the vets except Rondo asap

[LooseCannon]

- We be lucky to get anything worthwhile for Jcraw.  No contending team will want to deal with his attitude, turnover prone game or crazy shots.  Lucky for us, he can just disappear next year

Maybe the Bulls would be willing to gamble he can become this year's Nate Robinson.

[BASS_THUMPER]

we need to trade Bass, Lee, Green, AB, Jcraw, Humphries , Wallace for the best return as soon as possible. If we are going to lose or tank, i rather do it with a team full of promising young players.

Bring up Osby and let Pressey, KO, Sullinger and Faverani play extended minutes.

The conclusion now is becoming "what's the point"??

We play hard for the first half, and even up by 20 , everyone knows in the back of their minds, how are we going to lose it in the 2nd half??

At least with the young guys out there, you know from the start, you probably lose the game but maybe there is a chance to steal a few. It's a little more exciting vs depressing to watch. In addition by the end of the year you get a proper chance to draft a high pick.

I'm not condoing 100 percent disgraceful way of tanking which ML CARR tried to pull 10 years ago. Just a more legit way of doing it.

You trade these vets now or near trade deadline, don't think their values will change much anyways.

i read it all
and my question is

Why?

[green147]

Personally i'd trade Bradley or Avery Bryant.  The crap he is doing these days makes me forget nearly all the good things he has done for the team the past 2 years. 

- We be lucky to get anything worthwhile for Jcraw.  No contending team will want to deal with his attitude, turnover prone game or crazy shots.  Lucky for us, he can just disappear next year

- Bass and Lee together could get us back at least a 1st round pick or a few promising young players.  Both serve little to no purpose for our teams future.

- Jeff Green has a ton of value in the open market. Especially if a team is looking for a 6th man to push them over the top.  Ainge likely has his eyes set to draft one of the many talented 6'8 sfs available in the 2014 draft for the future anyways.

- Somebody i'm sure can use Humphries service and we could at worse get back another expiring contract and a 2014 2nd round pick

- If we can get back something worthwhile for Wallace, i'd trade him. But if not, i don't mind keeping him. He plays hard, can come off the bench and doesn't play out of control or outside of what he is capable of.

Bass & Lee don't equal a 1st rounder.  Bass is paid reasonably fairly, Lee makes too much.  They have value but if its a first rounder its at the bottom of the first round.  Green at 9 mill a year is overpaid and thus not worth much.  I'd love him as a 7th man at $5 mill but he's overpaid for what he delivers.

Bass isn't worth a high first rounder at all. But a team with a high playoff seeding come February (think Minnesota) may be willing to part with a determined low 1st rounder to grab him as a serviceable backup pf. Hopefully DA can figure something out.

[BballTim]

- If we can get back something worthwhile for Wallace, i'd trade him. But if not, i don't mind keeping him. He plays hard, can come off the bench and doesn't play out of control or outside of what he is capable of.

  I would disagree with "doesn't play out of control or outside of what he is capable of". I think his high turnover rate stems from not doing that.

[jdz101]

Danny is simply biding his time...

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Trade players right away for the best value? See That's an oxymoron right there.

yeppers. patience grasshopper

[LooseCannon]

Bass isn't worth a high first rounder at all. But a team with a high playoff seeding come February (think Minnesota) may be willing to part with a determined low 1st rounder to grab him as a serviceable backup pf. Hopefully DA can figure something out.

A fringe starter such as Bass probably isn't going to bring back a late first-round pick unless you are taking a bad contract back as well.  A reasonable return would be a former first round pick in his third or fourth year who hasn't been able to crack the rotation and has longshot upside and a future second-round pick.

[JBcat]

Injuries are starting to occur around the league with playoffs teams like Rose, M Gasol, and Iggy.   If we are just patient up until the trade deadline some teams might overpay in a trade for additional depth for their playoff run.  No need to rush this now. 

[Celtics18]

Injuries are starting to occur around the league with playoffs teams like Rose, M Gasol, and Iggy.   If we are just patient up until the trade deadline some teams might overpay in a trade for additional depth for their playoff run.  No need to rush this now.

Yes, patience.  If someone is willing to offer a deal we can't refuse for one or more of our players, then by all means make the deal.  But, I don't see any reason in having an Everything Must Go, Low, Low Prices, Clearance Sale!!

[Evantime34]

I think the group that the C's are trying to move is Humphries, Wallace, Bass and Lee. I'm on the fence about Green and am curious how he will do once Rondo is consistently setting him up with good shots to keep him aggressive.

I would be shocked if at least one of that group isn't traded on December 15th when players who signed contracts this year can be dealt.

[Tr1boy]

I think the group that the C's are trying to move is Humphries, Wallace, Bass and Lee. I'm on the fence about Green and am curious how he will do once Rondo is consistently setting him up with good shots to keep him aggressive.

I would be shocked if at least one of that group isn't traded on December 15th when players who signed contracts this year can be dealt.

Agreed. Those guys for sure.

As for Green , i don't think he works well with Rondo. He hasn't in the past

[BballTim]

I think the group that the C's are trying to move is Humphries, Wallace, Bass and Lee. I'm on the fence about Green and am curious how he will do once Rondo is consistently setting him up with good shots to keep him aggressive.

I would be shocked if at least one of that group isn't traded on December 15th when players who signed contracts this year can be dealt.

Agreed. Those guys for sure.

As for Green , i don't think he works well with Rondo. He hasn't in the past

  We really haven't seen enough of Green and Rondo together to know that. A lot of people here were claiming that last year was a sign that Green and Rondo don't work well together, mainly because they couldn't distinguish between "Rondo hampers Green's game" and "Green started slowly last season (after a year off) when he was recovering from open heart surgery". Some people explained that the problem was Green needing the ball in his hands to be effective, I think that theory's been laid to rest.

[Fan from VT]

I think the group that the C's are trying to move is Humphries, Wallace, Bass and Lee. I'm on the fence about Green and am curious how he will do once Rondo is consistently setting him up with good shots to keep him aggressive.

I would be shocked if at least one of that group isn't traded on December 15th when players who signed contracts this year can be dealt.

Agreed. Those guys for sure.

As for Green , i don't think he works well with Rondo. He hasn't in the past

  We really haven't seen enough of Green and Rondo together to know that. A lot of people here were claiming that last year was a sign that Green and Rondo don't work well together, mainly because they couldn't distinguish between "Rondo hampers Green's game" and "Green started slowly last season (after a year off) when he was recovering from open heart surgery". Some people explained that the problem was Green needing the ball in his hands to be effective, I think that theory's been laid to rest.

How has it been laid to rest? That he's just not that effective with and just not that effective without the ball in his hand?

[BballTim]

I think the group that the C's are trying to move is Humphries, Wallace, Bass and Lee. I'm on the fence about Green and am curious how he will do once Rondo is consistently setting him up with good shots to keep him aggressive.

I would be shocked if at least one of that group isn't traded on December 15th when players who signed contracts this year can be dealt.

Agreed. Those guys for sure.

As for Green , i don't think he works well with Rondo. He hasn't in the past

  We really haven't seen enough of Green and Rondo together to know that. A lot of people here were claiming that last year was a sign that Green and Rondo don't work well together, mainly because they couldn't distinguish between "Rondo hampers Green's game" and "Green started slowly last season (after a year off) when he was recovering from open heart surgery". Some people explained that the problem was Green needing the ball in his hands to be effective, I think that theory's been laid to rest.

How has it been laid to rest? That he's just not that effective with and just not that effective without the ball in his hand?

  If you're of the opinion that Green needs the ball in his hands to create his own offense in order to be effective then more power to you. I don't think too many people are holding on to that notion.

[Fan from VT]

I think the group that the C's are trying to move is Humphries, Wallace, Bass and Lee. I'm on the fence about Green and am curious how he will do once Rondo is consistently setting him up with good shots to keep him aggressive.

I would be shocked if at least one of that group isn't traded on December 15th when players who signed contracts this year can be dealt.

Agreed. Those guys for sure.

As for Green , i don't think he works well with Rondo. He hasn't in the past

  We really haven't seen enough of Green and Rondo together to know that. A lot of people here were claiming that last year was a sign that Green and Rondo don't work well together, mainly because they couldn't distinguish between "Rondo hampers Green's game" and "Green started slowly last season (after a year off) when he was recovering from open heart surgery". Some people explained that the problem was Green needing the ball in his hands to be effective, I think that theory's been laid to rest.

How has it been laid to rest? That he's just not that effective with and just not that effective without the ball in his hand?

  If you're of the opinion that Green needs the ball in his hands to create his own offense in order to be effective then more power to you. I don't think too many people are holding on to that notion.

I guess I think he's just equally averagely effective regardless of who his teammates are and regardless of where the ball is.