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Celtics projected as a 25W team
« on: November 21, 2013, 08:29:29 PM »

Offline beklog

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According to Basketball Stats:
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Team grades, 15% of the way through the regular season:

from my non so statistical thinking we'll be a 5W/month team
so we'll be a 25-30 win team by this season  ;D
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Re: Celtics projected as a 25W team
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2013, 08:33:11 PM »

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According to that list, 25 wins for the Celts, 25 for the Knicks, 27 for the Nets, 24 for the Sixers... I doubt that we all finish that bad (teams like the Knicks and Nets will (probably) get it together) but hypothetically  speaking if this chart turns out to be entirely accurate has there ever been a worse division in NBA history? Mind-boggling

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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2013, 09:15:01 PM »

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According to this, the Brooklyn Nets will make the playoffs as the 4th seed with 27 wins.  :P

That's obviously preposterous, but imagine how mad Hawks fans would be?

The Nets pick would be for the 4th seed, which I believe would make it worse than the Hawks' own pick, regardless of win total.

In any case, this prognosis places the Celtics just on the edge of being among the worst 5 teams in the league.  That sounds about right to me.
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2013, 09:17:40 PM »

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According to this, the Brooklyn Nets will make the playoffs as the 4th seed with 27 wins.  :P

That's obviously preposterous, but imagine how mad Hawks fans would be?

The Nets pick would be for the 4th seed, which I believe would make it worse than the Hawks' own pick, regardless of win total.

In any case, this prognosis places the Celtics just on the edge of being among the worst 5 teams in the league.  That sounds about right to me.

I didn't think playoff seeding reflects draft pick order. I thought draft pick order was fully due to win-loss record regardless of what division you are in.

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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2013, 09:23:40 PM »

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According to this, the Brooklyn Nets will make the playoffs as the 4th seed with 27 wins.  :P

That's obviously preposterous, but imagine how mad Hawks fans would be?

The Nets pick would be for the 4th seed, which I believe would make it worse than the Hawks' own pick, regardless of win total.

In any case, this prognosis places the Celtics just on the edge of being among the worst 5 teams in the league.  That sounds about right to me.

Wouldn't it be the Raptors with the 4th seed according to the list?

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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2013, 09:29:55 PM »

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According to this, the Brooklyn Nets will make the playoffs as the 4th seed with 27 wins.  :P

That's obviously preposterous, but imagine how mad Hawks fans would be?

The Nets pick would be for the 4th seed, which I believe would make it worse than the Hawks' own pick, regardless of win total.

In any case, this prognosis places the Celtics just on the edge of being among the worst 5 teams in the league.  That sounds about right to me.

I didn't think playoff seeding reflects draft pick order. I thought draft pick order was fully due to win-loss record regardless of what division you are in.

I think that's right except for the lottery vs. non-lottery team split. A Western team can be in the lottery with a better record than an Eastern team with a worse record. This happened with Utah and Dallas last year for example vs. the Bucks.

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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2013, 11:11:17 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2013, 11:20:45 PM »

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According to this, the Brooklyn Nets will make the playoffs as the 4th seed with 27 wins.  :P

That's obviously preposterous, but imagine how mad Hawks fans would be?

The Nets pick would be for the 4th seed, which I believe would make it worse than the Hawks' own pick, regardless of win total.

In any case, this prognosis places the Celtics just on the edge of being among the worst 5 teams in the league.  That sounds about right to me.

Wouldn't it be the Raptors with the 4th seed according to the list?

Oh, you're totally correct.  Completely missed the Raptors.  Woops.


Welp, the 4th seeded team would still have only 43 wins.  Not nearly as preposterous, though.
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2013, 11:22:19 PM »

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According to this, the Brooklyn Nets will make the playoffs as the 4th seed with 27 wins.  :P

That's obviously preposterous, but imagine how mad Hawks fans would be?

The Nets pick would be for the 4th seed, which I believe would make it worse than the Hawks' own pick, regardless of win total.

In any case, this prognosis places the Celtics just on the edge of being among the worst 5 teams in the league.  That sounds about right to me.

I didn't think playoff seeding reflects draft pick order. I thought draft pick order was fully due to win-loss record regardless of what division you are in.

I think that's right except for the lottery vs. non-lottery team split. A Western team can be in the lottery with a better record than an Eastern team with a worse record. This happened with Utah and Dallas last year for example vs. the Bucks.

Ah yes.  Right on that, too.  Don't know why for some reason I was under the impression that seeding affected it.
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2013, 06:39:16 AM »

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It is not a projection.  It is an analysis of the first 15% of the season and translating that to a full 100% of the season.  It isn't saying Boston will win 25 games, it is saying if they play exactly like they have they will win 25 games based on historical numbers.
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2013, 06:49:34 AM »

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Not quite good enough.

Doesn't that put them at risk of only the 10th pick in the draft?

Also, it seems like they've had a schedule of extremes so far: lots of quite good or quite bad teams, but few average ones.

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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2013, 06:56:59 AM »

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It's early enough that one good game where they blow out a team by 20 points because of insanely hot three-point shooting and the numbers would shift to saying the Celtics are playing like a 30-win team.
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2013, 07:06:52 AM »

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Doesn't that put them at risk of only the 10th pick in the draft?

No, because it's a lottery.

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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2013, 09:00:14 AM »

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Not quite good enough.

Doesn't that put them at risk of only the 10th pick in the draft?

Also, it seems like they've had a schedule of extremes so far: lots of quite good or quite bad teams, but few average ones.
No they'd be projected to have the 5th worst record. So they'd be at risk of 8th at worst. And that's assuming 3 teams 6 - 14 jump them, which is incredibly unlikely.

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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2013, 09:22:05 AM »

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I think 20-25 wins is pretty accurate.  I fully expect the C's to be picking in the top 7....