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Re: Ryan Anderson, Greg Monroe, Eric Gordon (Build around Rondo)
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2013, 04:59:13 PM »

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I don't get the obsession over Ryan Anderson

You're not paying enough attention then.  A near 40% 3pt shooter as a PF has so much more value than just points scored.  It spreads the floor and opens it up for other players to score.  Despite him not being a great defender, on the whole, he's been a net positive for his career by most all advanced metrics.  He's also reasonably paid (for a big) making him a very good option for a '3rd banana/6th man'.

The thing is, you better make sure you have a stalwart on 'D' at center.

Re: Ryan Anderson, Greg Monroe, Eric Gordon (Build around Rondo)
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2013, 06:05:08 PM »

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I would like Monroe.   

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A near 40% 3pt shooter as a PF has so much more value than just points scored.  It spreads the floor and opens it up for other players to score. 

I can live without Ryan Anderson( zero rings) , you make him sound like he is the second coming and pass on Eric Gordon.

Re: Ryan Anderson, Greg Monroe, Eric Gordon (Build around Rondo)
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2013, 06:19:35 PM »

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Like the idea of going after Monroe, not sure we have the chips to get him though.

I will pass on Anderson and Gordon thanks.

I wonder if Atlanta sucks enough they would be willing to trade Horford? IMo he would look nice paired next to KO. :)

Re: Ryan Anderson, Greg Monroe, Eric Gordon (Build around Rondo)
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2013, 06:20:51 PM »

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I would like Monroe.   

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A near 40% 3pt shooter as a PF has so much more value than just points scored.  It spreads the floor and opens it up for other players to score. 

I can live without Ryan Anderson( zero rings) , you make him sound like he is the second coming and pass on Eric Gordon.

You'll take "Zero Rings" Monroe but pass on "Zero Rings" Anderson?
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Re: Ryan Anderson, Greg Monroe, Eric Gordon (Build around Rondo)
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2013, 07:52:02 PM »

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While I am happy to roll with Olynyk and skip on Andersen, I really like the direction here.

Trading for a guy like Monroe is a no-brainer. You do what you have to without giving up Rondo. A big guy who can give you lots of points and boards with perennial all-star potential is a must. Demarcus Cousins and Lamarcus Aldridge also fit this mold. Again, we would have to give up quite a bit, but it would be worth it.

After giving up so much for our solid big guy, we would need to find a deal on our future sg. Of course this may be Wiggins / Parker (more sfs anyway), but this is not likely. Gordon is totally attainable and has shown a LOT of potential. He obviously has a long injury history, but he could really be worth it in the long run.

Building a contender around Rondo is very possible with so many young guys and draft picks; it is likely it just won't be this season.

Re: Ryan Anderson, Greg Monroe, Eric Gordon (Build around Rondo)
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2013, 05:12:50 PM »

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You'll take "Zero Rings" Monroe but pass on "Zero Rings" Anderson?

The guy made him sound all world.   Monroe is a lot better player than Anderson.

Anderson has a 11.4 PPG career average (doing better this year)  and a 6.4 RPG career average.  Monroe is 13.6 PPG and 8.9.  Rings aside the guys Monroe is the 10th best RPG in the NBA this year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/rebounds

Darn right I would take Monroe over Anderson and I think that any sane person would do so....

Re: Ryan Anderson, Greg Monroe, Eric Gordon (Build around Rondo)
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2013, 05:23:22 PM »

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You'll take "Zero Rings" Monroe but pass on "Zero Rings" Anderson?

The guy made him sound all world.   Monroe is a lot better player than Anderson.

Anderson has a 11.4 PPG career average (doing better this year)  and a 6.4 RPG career average.  Monroe is 13.6 PPG and 8.9.  Rings aside the guys Monroe is the 10th best RPG in the NBA this year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/rebounds

Darn right I would take Monroe over Anderson and I think that any sane person would do so....

"Any sane person?"

I bet Daryl Morey would prefer to trade Asik for Anderson instead of for Greg Monroe in a heartbeat.
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Re: Ryan Anderson, Greg Monroe, Eric Gordon (Build around Rondo)
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2013, 05:24:09 PM »

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You'll take "Zero Rings" Monroe but pass on "Zero Rings" Anderson?

The guy made him sound all world.   Monroe is a lot better player than Anderson.

Anderson has a 11.4 PPG career average (doing better this year)  and a 6.4 RPG career average.  Monroe is 13.6 PPG and 8.9.  Rings aside the guys Monroe is the 10th best RPG in the NBA this year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/rebounds

Darn right I would take Monroe over Anderson and I think that any sane person would do so....

You're reading way too much into it.  ::)

I never claimed Anderson was on Monroe's level.  Him and Anderson are two totally different players.  Monroe is likely going to be making north of $14m soon, Anderson makes $8m roughly.

As a role player though, Anderson provides a ton of value.  A guy like Anderson would actually pair really well with a guy like Monroe.

Re: Ryan Anderson, Greg Monroe, Eric Gordon (Build around Rondo)
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2013, 05:28:59 PM »

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You'll take "Zero Rings" Monroe but pass on "Zero Rings" Anderson?

The guy made him sound all world.   Monroe is a lot better player than Anderson.

Anderson has a 11.4 PPG career average (doing better this year)  and a 6.4 RPG career average.  Monroe is 13.6 PPG and 8.9.  Rings aside the guys Monroe is the 10th best RPG in the NBA this year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/rebounds

Darn right I would take Monroe over Anderson and I think that any sane person would do so....

"Any sane person?"

I bet Daryl Morey would prefer to trade Asik for Anderson instead of for Greg Monroe in a heartbeat.

This speaks to a matter of "fit"  Just as Howard and Asik are having problems playing together in Houston, I can see how Drummond and Monroe might reach a ceiling due to similar "fit" issues.  It's why Monroe didn't get a contract extension.

Monroe needs to be a full time center, so in certain situations I could easily see where a GM would go with Anderson over Monroe.  Cost is a factor as well.

Re: Ryan Anderson, Greg Monroe, Eric Gordon (Build around Rondo)
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2013, 06:00:29 PM »

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Re: Ryan Anderson, Greg Monroe, Eric Gordon (Build around Rondo)
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2013, 06:05:51 PM »

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You'll take "Zero Rings" Monroe but pass on "Zero Rings" Anderson?

The guy made him sound all world.   Monroe is a lot better player than Anderson.

Anderson has a 11.4 PPG career average (doing better this year)  and a 6.4 RPG career average.  Monroe is 13.6 PPG and 8.9.  Rings aside the guys Monroe is the 10th best RPG in the NBA this year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/rebounds

Darn right I would take Monroe over Anderson and I think that any sane person would do so....
You're kidding, right? Anderson averaged 16 ppg as a starter his last year in Orlando. Then he went ahead and averaged exactly the same in NO as the sixth man.

But by all means, use the three years when he was a sparsely used, developing big to report what would be a largely meaningless career average.

Also, I don't know how Anderson is "better this year" when he hasn't played a single minute because of a toe injury.
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Re: Ryan Anderson, Greg Monroe, Eric Gordon (Build around Rondo)
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2013, 06:32:38 PM »

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You'll take "Zero Rings" Monroe but pass on "Zero Rings" Anderson?

The guy made him sound all world.   Monroe is a lot better player than Anderson.

Anderson has a 11.4 PPG career average (doing better this year)  and a 6.4 RPG career average.  Monroe is 13.6 PPG and 8.9.  Rings aside the guys Monroe is the 10th best RPG in the NBA this year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/rebounds

Darn right I would take Monroe over Anderson and I think that any sane person would do so....
You're kidding, right? Anderson averaged 16 ppg as a starter his last year in Orlando. Then he went ahead and averaged exactly the same in NO as the sixth man.

But by all means, use the three years when he was a sparsely used, developing big to report what would be a largely meaningless career average.

Also, I don't know how Anderson is "better this year" when he hasn't played a single minute because of a toe injury.
His turnovers are way down this year.  Better.

Re: Ryan Anderson, Greg Monroe, Eric Gordon (Build around Rondo)
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2013, 06:57:12 PM »

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You'll take "Zero Rings" Monroe but pass on "Zero Rings" Anderson?

The guy made him sound all world.   Monroe is a lot better player than Anderson.

Anderson has a 11.4 PPG career average (doing better this year)  and a 6.4 RPG career average.  Monroe is 13.6 PPG and 8.9.  Rings aside the guys Monroe is the 10th best RPG in the NBA this year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/rebounds

Darn right I would take Monroe over Anderson and I think that any sane person would do so....
You're kidding, right? Anderson averaged 16 ppg as a starter his last year in Orlando. Then he went ahead and averaged exactly the same in NO as the sixth man.

But by all means, use the three years when he was a sparsely used, developing big to report what would be a largely meaningless career average.

Also, I don't know how Anderson is "better this year" when he hasn't played a single minute because of a toe injury.
His turnovers are way down this year.  Better.

And he hasn't missed a shot... ;)

Re: Ryan Anderson, Greg Monroe, Eric Gordon (Build around Rondo)
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2013, 07:12:36 PM »

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You'll take "Zero Rings" Monroe but pass on "Zero Rings" Anderson?

The guy made him sound all world.   Monroe is a lot better player than Anderson.

Anderson has a 11.4 PPG career average (doing better this year)  and a 6.4 RPG career average.  Monroe is 13.6 PPG and 8.9.  Rings aside the guys Monroe is the 10th best RPG in the NBA this year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/rebounds

Darn right I would take Monroe over Anderson and I think that any sane person would do so....

"Any sane person?"

I bet Daryl Morey would prefer to trade Asik for Anderson instead of for Greg Monroe in a heartbeat.

This speaks to a matter of "fit"  Just as Howard and Asik are having problems playing together in Houston, I can see how Drummond and Monroe might reach a ceiling due to similar "fit" issues.  It's why Monroe didn't get a contract extension.

Monroe needs to be a full time center, so in certain situations I could easily see where a GM would go with Anderson over Monroe.  Cost is a factor as well.

This article disagrees with you saying he should be a center instead of a PF.  I always thought of Monroe more as a PF, even though he has played alot of C in the past.

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2013/1/24/3912940/is-greg-monroe-capable-of-defending-nba-power-forwards

Re: Ryan Anderson, Greg Monroe, Eric Gordon (Build around Rondo)
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2013, 08:24:21 PM »

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You're kidding, right? Anderson averaged 16 ppg as a starter his last year in Orlando. Then he went ahead and averaged exactly the same in NO as the sixth man.

Actually his last two years to be precise.  But I used the word career, maybe you didn't notice that.   On a bad team it's much easier to throw up numbers and get PT.

During the same time Monroe averaged 17.6 which last time I checked 17 is more than 16.  Or do they use different math where your from?