Should the Celtics Re-Sign Michael Jordan... I mean Jordan Crawford?

[Bankshot]

 

If he keeps playing this way, I say yes.  He should still be able to get 20+ minutes a game as a backup 1/2.

Your thoughts?

[perks-a-beast]

No. He'll show flashes of brilliance but for the most part our defense collapses when he's in. I rather the Celtics go for a good spot up shooter to compliment Rondo in the offseason anyways.

[kozlodoev]

No. He'll show flashes of brilliance but for the most part our defense collapses when he's in. I rather the Celtics go for a good spot up shooter to compliment Rondo in the offseason anyways.

Our defense doesn't "collapse" when he's in. Mostly because we haven't had any defense to speak of this season.

[BleedGreen1989]

No. He'll show flashes of brilliance but for the most part our defense collapses when he's in. I rather the Celtics go for a good spot up shooter to compliment Rondo in the offseason anyways.

Our defense doesn't "collapse" when he's in. Mostly because we haven't had any defense to speak of this season.

Any defense to speak of?

I may be mistaken, but I believe the Celtics are a top-10 defensive team by the numbers.

As far as keeping Jordan, I say package him with Bass and hope you get something decent. I'm very weary of giving Jordan a long term deal. I think the guy just really wants that second contract.

[wdleehi]

If he plays well and consistent for the season, sure thing.



If this is just a hot streak, no. 

[kozlodoev]

No. He'll show flashes of brilliance but for the most part our defense collapses when he's in. I rather the Celtics go for a good spot up shooter to compliment Rondo in the offseason anyways.

Our defense doesn't "collapse" when he's in. Mostly because we haven't had any defense to speak of this season.

Any defense to speak of?

I may be mistaken, but I believe the Celtics are a top-10 defensive team by the numbers.

As far as keeping Jordan, I say package him with Bass and hope you get something decent. I'm very weary of giving Jordan a long term deal. I think the guy just really wants that second contract.

I don't know which numbers you're talking about. The numbers I see tell me that our team is 19th in field goal defense, 27th in offensive rebounds allowed, and 23rd in opponent free throws attempted.

This is decidedly a below average defensive team. They are not going to win many games by shutting down the opposition.

[beklog]

it really depends on how much $$ are we talking about.. agents tend to oversell their players
just this month Celtics passed up for Bradley's extension I guess Ainge is not willing to commit to Bradley at a high price

[Fafnir]

No. He'll show flashes of brilliance but for the most part our defense collapses when he's in. I rather the Celtics go for a good spot up shooter to compliment Rondo in the offseason anyways.

Our defense doesn't "collapse" when he's in. Mostly because we haven't had any defense to speak of this season.

Any defense to speak of?

I may be mistaken, but I believe the Celtics are a top-10 defensive team by the numbers.

As far as keeping Jordan, I say package him with Bass and hope you get something decent. I'm very weary of giving Jordan a long term deal. I think the guy just really wants that second contract.

I don't know which numbers you're talking about. The numbers I see tell me that our team is 19th in field goal defense, 27th in offensive rebounds allowed, and 23rd in opponent free throws attempted.

This is decidedly a below average defensive team.

Points per 100 possessions the C's are 11th in the league.

We're 12th in eFG% defense, 12th in FG% defense, 29th in defensive rebounding %, 11th in TOV% forced, and 19th in FTA per FGA.

Some of your numbers are wrong and you're ignoring others you don't cite. I don't think our defense is going to stay at a top 10/11 level, but it is right now.

[Fafnir]

Our free throw defense has also been great too. We're holding our opponents to 70.8% from the line, league average is 74%. 

[billysan]

I have no problem keeping him around as the 4th guard at a little less than Courtney Lee money. He doesnt need to be a key asset that plays 35 minutes per at this point or we are in trouble for a while to come.

This signing would also effect the Avery Bradley money available and that would be a choice waiting to be screwed up. We could really hurt ourselves if we make the wrong move.

[kozlodoev]

No. He'll show flashes of brilliance but for the most part our defense collapses when he's in. I rather the Celtics go for a good spot up shooter to compliment Rondo in the offseason anyways.

Our defense doesn't "collapse" when he's in. Mostly because we haven't had any defense to speak of this season.

Any defense to speak of?

I may be mistaken, but I believe the Celtics are a top-10 defensive team by the numbers.

As far as keeping Jordan, I say package him with Bass and hope you get something decent. I'm very weary of giving Jordan a long term deal. I think the guy just really wants that second contract.

I don't know which numbers you're talking about. The numbers I see tell me that our team is 19th in field goal defense, 27th in offensive rebounds allowed, and 23rd in opponent free throws attempted.

This is decidedly a below average defensive team.

Points per 100 possessions the C's are 11th in the league.

We're 12th in eFG% defense, 12th in FG% defense, 29th in defensive rebounding %, 11th in TOV% forced, and 19th in FTA per FGA.

Some of your numbers are wrong and you're ignoring others you don't cite.

None of my numbers are wrong -- I pulled overall FG%, number of offensive rebounds per game, and number of free throws attempted per game from Y!Sports. We're not 12th in FG% defense -- unless you mean 12th from the bottom (a.k.a. 19th).

It was supposed to be quick and dirty, since the defensive mediocrity of this team should be painfully obvious to anyone who's seen a couple of games.

And even the advanced numbers you're stating do not paint the picture of some sort of the top-10 defensive team in the NBA, as BG89 suggests.

[LooseCannon]

Like any other potentially useful player, for the right price, provided it doesn't screw up other deals.

[beklog]

I have no problem keeping him around as the 4th guard at a little less than Courtney Lee money. He doesnt need to be a key asset that plays 35 minutes per at this point or we are in trouble for a while to come.

This signing would also effect the Avery Bradley money available and that would be a choice waiting to be screwed up. We could really hurt ourselves if we make the wrong move.

Oh men I really like AB's defensive intesity, his cutting..
but after seeing him struggle just to hold on the ball and to pass it. i say if the price is really right then we keep him.... Good thing I'm not DA that will all this weighing and decision making 

[Fafnir]

No. He'll show flashes of brilliance but for the most part our defense collapses when he's in. I rather the Celtics go for a good spot up shooter to compliment Rondo in the offseason anyways.

Our defense doesn't "collapse" when he's in. Mostly because we haven't had any defense to speak of this season.

Any defense to speak of?

I may be mistaken, but I believe the Celtics are a top-10 defensive team by the numbers.

As far as keeping Jordan, I say package him with Bass and hope you get something decent. I'm very weary of giving Jordan a long term deal. I think the guy just really wants that second contract.

I don't know which numbers you're talking about. The numbers I see tell me that our team is 19th in field goal defense, 27th in offensive rebounds allowed, and 23rd in opponent free throws attempted.

This is decidedly a below average defensive team.

Points per 100 possessions the C's are 11th in the league.

We're 12th in eFG% defense, 12th in FG% defense, 29th in defensive rebounding %, 11th in TOV% forced, and 19th in FTA per FGA.

Some of your numbers are wrong and you're ignoring others you don't cite.

None of my numbers are wrong -- I pulled overall FG%, number of offensive rebounds per game, and number of free throws attempted per game from Y!Sports. We're not 12th in FG% defense -- unless you mean 12th from the bottom (a.k.a. 19th).

Hmm basketball reference messes up the FG% sorting, my bad we're 19th in FG% against.

Of course FG% against isn't what you care about, its eFG% against which the C's are 12th at due to poor 3 point shooting against.

That's not a sustainable %, but the C's are allowing few 3 pointers overall which is very important.

If you want to go quick and dirty at least use pace adjusted stats, they're in tables just as easy to get to as the totals.

And again the metrics show that Jordan Crawford is a big part of the problems with our defense. The rest of the perimeter defenders get the job done, when he's in he's by far the weak link.

[kozlodoev]

Yes, I don't think that allowing sub-.300 3pt shooting is sustainable. Or important. First, because teams will shoot better, and second, because they'll figure out that they can have any easy shot in the book.

Being an above-average TO-forcing team probably is, but I can hardly see how this alone can make us an average defensive team by itself.

Yahoo doesn't have pace-adjusted stats. And again, the issues are so obvious that pace adjustment does next to nothing for the overall conclusion.

So maybe Crawford is some sort of a weak link in that defense, but to talk about "defensive disintegration" when he's on the court is a clear exaggeration. And again, my view is that we're not going to win a lot of games on defense, but we'll lose a lot of games when we're not able to run consistent offense.