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We should still start Phil Pressey
« on: November 07, 2013, 09:59:12 AM »

Offline Monkhouse

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Down 16-3, and somehow the moment Pressey steps in, we actually make a good comeback. ::) Not to mention you can tell how well the offense runs when hes playing. Plus the one telling him every mistake or any needed improvements is Brad Stevens, and Rajon Rondo in his ear.

I seriously hope Stevens at least starts Pressey a couple of times.

I like Crawford, but I don't think he should be starting. He had a couple of good games, but shots that are taken seem a little too sketchy, and eventually he'll get back into his usual comfort zone.

Also the 10-4 run we went on? That was very quick, and the problem with most of our offense especially when its run by Bradley is that there is barely no momentum. Watching Pressey closely throughout summer and pre-season, he is the only PG who can control and create that needed momentum.
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Re: We should still start Phil Pressey
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2013, 10:03:09 AM »

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Crawford cares about the stat sheet, he has no business starting

Re: We should still start Phil Pressey
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2013, 10:03:57 AM »

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I still like Crawford in there but Pressey clearly earned minutes last night.
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Re: We should still start Phil Pressey
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2013, 10:05:47 AM »

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I'm sure the Pressey, AB, Green, Bass, VF lineup is starting to come through but if Pressey still has the (foot?) injury, best to keep his minutes low for now.

This was my starting lineup during training camp but I understand experimenting for a few games.

Rondo, Lee, Green, Sully, VF

Pressey, AB, Wallace, Bass, KO

Good balance of vet/ youngsters and scoring to defense on each unit.
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Re: We should still start Phil Pressey
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2013, 10:06:52 AM »

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I agree. It might seem like a snap judgement but the C's have had trouble getting into their offense all year. He created some good shots off the pick and roll and had some other nice hockey assists that I liked.

Sure it makes us small at pretty much every position to trot out a lineup of Preseey, Bradley, Green, Bass and Olynyk, but I think what this lineup lacks in size it makes up for on offense with great passing. It also helps us make the transition from pre Rondo to when he comes back, since it will give us a pg to run the show and move BRadley to his natural position.
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Re: We should still start Phil Pressey
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2013, 10:10:44 AM »

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I don't think he should start.

He had trouble against John Lucas III and Jaamal Tinsley. No way he's ready to guard a real starting point.

I do think that Pressey coming off the bench works about a million times better than having Bradley be the primary ball handler. He played a lot of solid minutes yesterday.
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Re: We should still start Phil Pressey
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2013, 10:17:33 AM »

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I don't think he should start.

He had trouble against John Lucas III and Jaamal Tinsley. No way he's ready to guard a real starting point.

I do think that Pressey coming off the bench works about a million times better than having Bradley be the primary ball handler. He played a lot of solid minutes yesterday.

I'm with you... as for me he haven't earned being a starting PG yet... let him be the backup PG of Crawford just keep the ball away from AB :)

I know he's a great ballhander just needed more time and real nba experience... he and KO both feeling the rook-jitters and still struggling from the outside shots
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Re: We should still start Phil Pressey
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2013, 10:34:24 AM »

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not a starter but deserves pg minutes
start crawford for now  :-\

i want to tinker with starting lineup
crawford, lee, green, fav and bass

second group of pressey, bradley, wallace, humphries, sully, ko

last night was the first we've seen of 11 deep, i like it, everyone put more effort into effort, waive your hand when you need a break
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Re: We should still start Phil Pressey
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2013, 10:39:02 AM »

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I don't think he should start.

He had trouble against John Lucas III and Jaamal Tinsley. No way he's ready to guard a real starting point.

I do think that Pressey coming off the bench works about a million times better than having Bradley be the primary ball handler. He played a lot of solid minutes yesterday.

I don't agree with that. It isn't that he wasn't ready to guard a real starting point, although, I do agree, I firmly believe his height disadvantage will have a lot of mismatches in the future. But Pressey was coming off a foot injury, and was nervous from the task of trying to make a comeback.
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Re: We should still start Phil Pressey
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2013, 10:45:44 AM »

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I think it's pretty obvious that Pressey-Bradley should be the starting backcourt, and the Sullinger / Olynyk combo is the best big man combo we have.
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Re: We should still start Phil Pressey
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2013, 10:50:50 AM »

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My thinking is this...

Pressey is clearly the only pure point guard that looks like will be backing up Rondo. He will also be very cheap, and definitely serviceable. A lot of drafts had Pressey going late first pick at some time.

Pressey is definitely the better point guard, but he's just undersized. Which I honestly have no problem with except when it comes to defending well. But Pressey can hustle, go in for the steal, and plays solid defense, along with his great lateral quickness.

My point is...

Crawford, Brooks, Wallace, Bass, and Lee are players clearly not in our rotation for the future, nor do they seem like they'll be a key piece to our bright future.

Why use the minutes Pressey needs to get accustomed to the NBA, over a shooting guard who can pass the dime well, but has been known to be a hot head, and take ill-advised shots?
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Re: We should still start Phil Pressey
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2013, 10:57:42 AM »

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I don't think he should start.

He had trouble against John Lucas III and Jaamal Tinsley. No way he's ready to guard a real starting point.

I do think that Pressey coming off the bench works about a million times better than having Bradley be the primary ball handler. He played a lot of solid minutes yesterday.

I don't agree with that. It isn't that he wasn't ready to guard a real starting point, although, I do agree, I firmly believe his height disadvantage will have a lot of mismatches in the future. But Pressey was coming off a foot injury, and was nervous from the task of trying to make a comeback.

Foot injury or no foot injury, there's a massive gap in talent between the Utah PG's and most of the starters at that position in the NBA. It's almost certainly the deepest spot in the league right now.

Do you really want Phil Pressey going out there and getting 30 MPG (and getting totally squashed) in order for him to learn the ropes, or do you want him playing against bench guys?
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Re: We should still start Phil Pressey
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2013, 11:01:03 AM »

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Even if he is playing well, I think Pressey's model should be Norris Cole on Miami.  Just coming in off the bench and being a spark plug in whatever his team needs.  More than anything just be flying around and playing hard.
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Re: We should still start Phil Pressey
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2013, 11:03:59 AM »

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I think it's pretty obvious that Pressey-Bradley should be the starting backcourt, and the Sullinger / Olynyk combo is the best big man combo we have.
Agreed, hopefully someone trades for Bass soon so they can go from showcasing him to showcasing Humphries. In a dream world, they would be able to move both for future assets and then go with Pressey, Bradley, Green, Sullinger, Olynyk until Rondo returns.
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Re: We should still start Phil Pressey
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2013, 11:15:13 AM »

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Pressey is our best active pg. Just knows how to work the offense, change speed, and not turnover the ball. The right pass is made 2 out of 3 times

Pressey though has to improve his jump shot. Its critical