Wallace is NOT HAPPY about not starting

[Endless Paradise]

“I wouldn’t say not happy, I’d just say kind of confused,” said Wallace. “It’s the first time since I was traded to Portland (in Feb. of 2011) and came off the bench two or three games for them that I’ve actually come off the bench. I was trying to figure it out; it’s a new experience for me.”



Really? Did Wallace completely forget about last year with the Nets, where he was a deep bench guy? Does he really think he's a bonafide NBA starter at this stage in his career? This guy sounds more delusional everyday. Well, I guess he could argue that he never really came off the bench in Brooklyn, he just sat on it the whole time.

... you just completely made that up.  Like, seriously - that's a blatant lie.  He started all but one of the games he played for the Nets and played 30.1 minutes.

[kozlodoev]

Until Rondo returns, Wallace is probably the 3rd best player on the team behind Green and Bass. He should expect to start.

He shouldn't, because the two players that you listed both play his position.

[LooseCannon]

Really? Did Wallace completely forget about last year with the Nets, where he was a deep bench guy? Does he really think he's a bonafide NBA starter at this stage in his career? This guy sounds more delusional everyday. Well, I guess he could argue that he never really came off the bench in Brooklyn, he just sat on it the whole time.

Last season, Wallace averaged 30.1 minutes per game and started 68 out of 69 games that he played in.

[LooseCannon]

How about just put him on the block.

Of course we should get the best return, but just put him there. Call all teams and see what they would be willing to give for him, then take the best offer.

I'd try to trade him to the Bucks with two 2nd rounders for Caron Butler as a start.

The rumor is that the Celtics would have to send out at least one first-round pick to dump his contract. 

[Mr October]

Isn't Wallace in our 5-best players list?  Do we have 5 guys better?  Hardly.

We're better with him on the floor.  It sucks that our roster is so unbalanced and other guys need to play.  It's like watching a 4th grade game when the hot hand and better players get taken out.

Because, of course, it isn't about winning.

better than Wallace at this stage?

Sullinger
Olynyk
Green
Bass
Faverani
Lee
Bradley

so I would say he's our 8th best player for now, 9th best when Rondo returns

Bradley has had a horrible start to the year. His shooting and passing are embarrassing.

Sullinger is out of shape. I expect him to round into form and surpass Wallace. But today I would pick Wallace ahead of him in a 5 on 5 game.

Olynyk and Faverani are terrible defenders and very streaky scorers. They certainly have the potential to pass Wallace. But not yet.

Lee should never seriously be considered a starter on any team. He has the skill, but he just can't put it all together.

[hpantazo]

“I wouldn’t say not happy, I’d just say kind of confused,” said Wallace. “It’s the first time since I was traded to Portland (in Feb. of 2011) and came off the bench two or three games for them that I’ve actually come off the bench. I was trying to figure it out; it’s a new experience for me.”



Really? Did Wallace completely forget about last year with the Nets, where he was a deep bench guy? Does he really think he's a bonafide NBA starter at this stage in his career? This guy sounds more delusional everyday. Well, I guess he could argue that he never really came off the bench in Brooklyn, he just sat on it the whole time.

... you just completely made that up.  Like, seriously - that's a blatant lie.  He started all but one of the games he played for the Nets and played 30.1 minutes.

My bad. Lie and a mistake are two different things though, no need to get angry. He's still a delusional aging player with limited skills. He needs to accept what he is.

[kozlodoev]

Really? Did Wallace completely forget about last year with the Nets, where he was a deep bench guy? Does he really think he's a bonafide NBA starter at this stage in his career? This guy sounds more delusional everyday. Well, I guess he could argue that he never really came off the bench in Brooklyn, he just sat on it the whole time.

Last season, Wallace averaged 30.1 minutes per game and started 68 out of 69 games that he played in.

Yeah, he wasn't on the bench -- he was just god-awful.

[hpantazo]

Really? Did Wallace completely forget about last year with the Nets, where he was a deep bench guy? Does he really think he's a bonafide NBA starter at this stage in his career? This guy sounds more delusional everyday. Well, I guess he could argue that he never really came off the bench in Brooklyn, he just sat on it the whole time.

Last season, Wallace averaged 30.1 minutes per game and started 68 out of 69 games that he played in.

Yeah, he wasn't on the bench -- he was just god-awful.

that's why I got mistaken, his stats looked terrible, I assumed he hardly got on the court but I was wrong

[Mr October]

Until Rondo returns, Wallace is probably the 3rd best player on the team behind Green and Bass. He should expect to start.

He shouldn't, because the two players that you listed both play his position.

I agree that Wallace is best served on the bench. The Celtics are overloaded at the forward spots. But I have sympathy for him, losing his spot to the black hole that is Jordan Crawford. I would have been confused too.

[More Banners]

Isn't Wallace in our 5-best players list?  Do we have 5 guys better?  Hardly.

We're better with him on the floor.  It sucks that our roster is so unbalanced and other guys need to play.  It's like watching a 4th grade game when the hot hand and better players get taken out.

Because, of course, it isn't about winning.

better than Wallace at this stage?

Sullinger
Olynyk
Green
Bass
Faverani
Lee
Bradley

so I would say he's our 8th best player for now, 9th best when Rondo returns

I really don't think he's been beaten out by all of those guys. 

Green's inconsistent play, Bass' inability to move the ball, ever, hold them back from beating out Wallace.  Bradley and Lee are more competing with each other for minutes, but Wallace's help on the boards and being no worse a passer while running the floor strong give the nod to Wallace.

We have so many journeymen that a clear ranking is probably not easy to make. I'm sufficiently unimpressed with everybody, but love his aggressive style and the idea that the edge goes to the aggressor give me reason to think that Wallace probably has a claim, and he should be within the starting 5 somewhere.

For pete's sake, Jordan Crawford starts.

[Endless Paradise]

“I wouldn’t say not happy, I’d just say kind of confused,” said Wallace. “It’s the first time since I was traded to Portland (in Feb. of 2011) and came off the bench two or three games for them that I’ve actually come off the bench. I was trying to figure it out; it’s a new experience for me.”



Really? Did Wallace completely forget about last year with the Nets, where he was a deep bench guy? Does he really think he's a bonafide NBA starter at this stage in his career? This guy sounds more delusional everyday. Well, I guess he could argue that he never really came off the bench in Brooklyn, he just sat on it the whole time.

... you just completely made that up.  Like, seriously - that's a blatant lie.  He started all but one of the games he played for the Nets and played 30.1 minutes.

My bad. Lie and a mistake are two different things though, no need to get angry. He's still a delusional aging player with limited skills. He needs to accept what he is.

I'm not angry, it just seemed odd that you called him a deep-bench guy 'cause that's just not true.  Kris Humphries was a deep bench guy.  The entire story on Wallace last year was how ineffective he was as a starter for the Nets and how opposing teams were essentially playing 5-on-3 (due to Wallace and Reggie Evans being non-factors).

[hpantazo]

Isn't Wallace in our 5-best players list?  Do we have 5 guys better?  Hardly.

We're better with him on the floor.  It sucks that our roster is so unbalanced and other guys need to play.  It's like watching a 4th grade game when the hot hand and better players get taken out.

Because, of course, it isn't about winning.

better than Wallace at this stage?

Sullinger
Olynyk
Green
Bass
Faverani
Lee
Bradley

so I would say he's our 8th best player for now, 9th best when Rondo returns

I really don't think he's been beaten out by all of those guys. 

Green's inconsistent play, Bass' inability to move the ball, ever, hold them back from beating out Wallace.  Bradley and Lee are more competing with each other for minutes, but Wallace's help on the boards and being no worse a passer while running the floor strong give the nod to Wallace.

We have so many journeymen that a clear ranking is probably not easy to make. I'm sufficiently unimpressed with everybody, but love his aggressive style and the idea that the edge goes to the aggressor give me reason to think that Wallace probably has a claim, and he should be within the starting 5 somewhere.

For pete's sake, Jordan Crawford starts.

Well, Bass has been much better than people give him credit for, he has improved his game from last year already. My point was Wallace is not clearly in our top 5 any more than most of our other players are. Him being benched is far from surprising.

[kozlodoev]

For pete's sake, Jordan Crawford starts.

Yes, and he beat Wallace for the starting spot fair and square.

[hpantazo]

For pete's sake, Jordan Crawford starts.

Yes, and he beat Wallace for the starting spot fair and square.

Yep, we looked much better as a team with Crawford starting last night. For once this year we looked like a legit NBA team.

And as much as I don't like Bass, and I REALY don't like Bass, I have to admit Stevens has managed to get to him and make him a better player already this year on both ends of the floor.

[LooseCannon]

Really? Did Wallace completely forget about last year with the Nets, where he was a deep bench guy? Does he really think he's a bonafide NBA starter at this stage in his career? This guy sounds more delusional everyday. Well, I guess he could argue that he never really came off the bench in Brooklyn, he just sat on it the whole time.

Last season, Wallace averaged 30.1 minutes per game and started 68 out of 69 games that he played in.

Yeah, he wasn't on the bench -- he was just god-awful.

If you look at his splits, he played tolerable through the first half of the season.  Before the All-Star break, he shot 43.2% from the field and 35.1% from three for a TS% of 53.9%.  That cratered to 33.5% from the field, 13.5% on threes, and a true shooting percentage of 39.8%.  While his minutes dropped slightly from 31.3 to 28.0, his points per game fell off from 8.9 to to 5.7 and his rebounds went from 5.2 to 3.7.

How much of that decline was physical?  How much was due to injuries?  How much was mental?  How much was the result of bad coaching?