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OKC,Cs,Wiz trade idea
« on: November 06, 2013, 10:01:31 AM »

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http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=n8akz4h

Cs gets Perk, Vessily

OKC gets Bass , Lee , 2nds from Cs and Wiz

Wiz get Sefolosha


Why I think it works,

OKC
Perk hasn't been earning his nearly 9mill a year and the OKC fans are calling for Adams to start. Bass is an upgrade as a player over Perk and will allow then to go with a smaller more skilled front court with Ibaka and Druant. Lee has been up and down the last couple of year but at his best he is better then Sefolosha. The bottom line is this trade adds talent to OKC and 2 2nd round picks.

Wiz
They ditch a bust who they arnt bringing back in Vessily and gain a defensive minded veteran who is on an expiring deal. Bottom line this adds a solid player to there rotation for nothing.

Cs
This deal clears up caps space. Adds a familiar face and leader who is friends with rondo.  Vessily is a bust but maybe phili would be willing to take his deal to give him one last shot. This would free cap romm for Kendall Marshall.
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Re: OKC,Cs,Wiz trade idea
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2013, 10:35:50 AM »

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Good idea but zero chances.

Re: OKC,Cs,Wiz trade idea
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2013, 12:03:05 PM »

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No thanks on the return for the Celtics.
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Re: OKC,Cs,Wiz trade idea
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2013, 12:07:49 PM »

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we should be able to do better than that for Lee and Bass

Re: OKC,Cs,Wiz trade idea
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2013, 12:35:25 PM »

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No thanks on the return for the Celtics.

we should be able to do better than that for Lee and Bass

There isn't a big market in the NBA for solid fill in players like Bass and Lee. Most teams are either tanking for super stars or caped out and filling holes with over the hill vets. clearing cap space and having a 9 mill expiring deal for next season is a good haul for those two players.
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Re: OKC,Cs,Wiz trade idea
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2013, 01:03:51 PM »

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Cut out the Wiz. 


I still think the Thunder say no looking at how Howard is playing. 

Re: OKC,Cs,Wiz trade idea
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2013, 01:08:12 PM »

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No thanks on the return for the Celtics.

we should be able to do better than that for Lee and Bass

There isn't a big market in the NBA for solid fill in players like Bass and Lee. Most teams are either tanking for super stars or caped out and filling holes with over the hill vets. clearing cap space and having a 9 mill expiring deal for next season is a good haul for those two players.

I agree with your analysis.

I don't agree that the ghost of Kendrick Perkins (and his expiring contract) and the privilege of being the last NBA stop for Jan Vesely are solid returns for a pair of guys who could very likely play themselves into a higher valued pair of trade pieces.
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Re: OKC,Cs,Wiz trade idea
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2013, 01:24:49 PM »

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Cut out the Wiz. 


I still think the Thunder say no looking at how Howard is playing.

Howard is my one concern with this trade. Perks history with him could keeping him relevant in the west.
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Re: OKC,Cs,Wiz trade idea
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2013, 02:34:09 PM »

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I'd try to pry Jeremy Lamb away from OKC. Something like Perk/Lamb for Green/Brooks. That might not be enough for OKC but Perk isn't helping them at all. This trade makes them a small ball team but Miami has shown that when you have dominant wing players that can work.

Sign a couple of shooters at the minimum and you've got a Miami clone. I don't know if Durant can carry them like Lebron or if Westbrook will stay healthy but their current formula isn't working. I'm of the opinion that even if Westbrook had stayed healthy they would have lost to the Spurs last year. They either need to get tricky with a trade like this or start spending over the tax to win.

Re: OKC,Cs,Wiz trade idea
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2013, 09:32:11 PM »

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If I'm OKC I wouldn't want Lee... but if I'm OKC I'd be pretty desperate to close some kind of deal to make up for the screw-ups :P
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Re: OKC,Cs,Wiz trade idea
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2013, 06:41:13 AM »

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Cut out the Wiz. 


I still think the Thunder say no looking at how Howard is playing.
Perkins is just too old, injured, and slow to do anyhting against Howard anymore.
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Re: OKC,Cs,Wiz trade idea
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2013, 07:52:56 AM »

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I know it's probably the last place he'd end up but I really think OKC could use Gerald Wallace.

Ibaka
Durant
Wallace
Sefolosha
Westbrook

I think that team would match up well against Miami if nothing else. Of course there's the whole ton of reasons why it wouldn't happen to consider.

Re: OKC,Cs,Wiz trade idea
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2013, 08:24:01 AM »

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I was a big Perk guy while he was here and I still think the Green trade, at the time, killed our chances at winning the title that year.

With that being said, how does trading for Perk help us at all? Perk was huge for us when KG was by his side because KG was able to bring out the best in Perks abilities on the floor and even as a leader. Other than that, Perk hasn't been a big difference maker anywhere hes played.

Re: OKC,Cs,Wiz trade idea
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2013, 08:44:36 AM »

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I was a big Perk guy while he was here and I still think the Green trade, at the time, killed our chances at winning the title that year.

With that being said, how does trading for Perk help us at all? Perk was huge for us when KG was by his side because KG was able to bring out the best in Perks abilities on the floor and even as a leader. Other than that, Perk hasn't been a big difference maker anywhere hes played.

This year Perk would give us more leadership, toughness, and interior defense.

Next year he becomes a nice expiring contract. The proposed trade also saves the Cs an extra year of paying Lee.

To top it all off he has a great relationship with Rondo
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Re: OKC,Cs,Wiz trade idea
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2013, 09:37:51 AM »

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I was a big Perk guy while he was here and I still think the Green trade, at the time, killed our chances at winning the title that year.

With that being said, how does trading for Perk help us at all? Perk was huge for us when KG was by his side because KG was able to bring out the best in Perks abilities on the floor and even as a leader. Other than that, Perk hasn't been a big difference maker anywhere hes played.

This year Perk would give us more leadership, toughness, and interior defense.

Next year he becomes a nice expiring contract. The proposed trade also saves the Cs an extra year of paying Lee.

To top it all off he has a great relationship with Rondo

I see your logic in getting Perk back, but I don't want him.  If it happens, I wouldn't be mad, not that Ainge would care what I think.
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