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The Stevens doghouse.
« on: November 04, 2013, 03:25:57 AM »

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Maybe I am reading too much into this, but could the extended benching of our only healthy true point guard in Pressey, one of our best rebounders in Humphries, and the benching of Jeff Green, for...being Jeff Green, be down to them being in coach Stevens' dog house?   
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2013, 03:28:14 AM »

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Pressey may be injured (ankle).

As for the rest of the lineup I suspect rotations will continue to not be set in stone for at the very least another 10 games. I say expect minutes for Humphries and don't read into JG's benching too much.

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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2013, 04:02:42 AM »

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I have a feeling Stevens is adjusting to so many new things and trying to juggle so much in terms of the game and player evaluation that we're seeing some guys having to sit while others get his attention--not unlike the preseason.

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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2013, 06:13:32 AM »

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I get the sense that Stevens decides who plays and who doesn't (or who continues playing during a game) based on different factors than we, as fans, are used to looking for.  We see a relatively close game and think, "Why the heck is Green on the bench?!  He's their best scorer!" 

Meanwhile, Stevens is probably focusing on things like effort and the cohesiveness of the players on the floor as a unit.

As for Humphries, I assume that there's a reason for that as well.  There was talk about him being a hard worker this summer, but if Humph is simply not in the rotation despite his talent and experience, I have to conclude that he's not working that hard or doesn't seem to be buying in and working well with teammates.

All speculation, but it seems at least as likely to me as the "blatant tanking" theory.
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2013, 07:26:20 AM »

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As for Humphries, I assume that there's a reason for that as well.  There was talk about him being a hard worker this summer, but if Humph is simply not in the rotation despite his talent and experience, I have to conclude that he's not working that hard or doesn't seem to be buying in and working well with teammates.

It's simply a numbers game. We have a 4 big rotation and putting Humphries means that either Bass, Fav, Olynyk, or Sullinger will be on the bench.

As for Pressey, quite simply he's not ready. At least not ready to play ahead of Lee and Crawford who have played well. Yes, he may be a true PG, but he is really undersized (even heard an announcer say that standing next to him he's closer to 5-7 than he is his listed height) and at this point in his career the undrafted rookie isn't ready to be part of the rotation.

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2013, 07:45:52 AM »

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Humph is definitely in the doghouse. 

Pressey is a rook.  I would like to see if our offensive flow isn't so offensive with him like it is with Bradley. 




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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2013, 08:21:17 AM »

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I do not understand why Humphries is in the doghouse, but with Bass and Fully playing decent, KO starting to play good, Fav being great, theres probably just not enough room. But thats counter productive to the tanking strategy. Humph is an expiring contract, that alone makes him an appealing trade chip. It will add gret value if he plays decently. Dont know why he's not playing at all.

As for Green, someone pointes this out in an another thread and I hopr he's right. Maybe he got benched because he's just not putting any effort. And I love that if thats the case.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2013, 08:45:42 AM »

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I hope Bradley gets put in Stevens' doghouse soon and never gets out. Oye.

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2013, 09:00:52 AM »

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As for Humphries, I assume that there's a reason for that as well.  There was talk about him being a hard worker this summer, but if Humph is simply not in the rotation despite his talent and experience, I have to conclude that he's not working that hard or doesn't seem to be buying in and working well with teammates.

It's simply a numbers game. We have a 4 big rotation and putting Humphries means that either Bass, Fav, Olynyk, or Sullinger will be on the bench.

As for Pressey, quite simply he's not ready. At least not ready to play ahead of Lee and Crawford who have played well. Yes, he may be a true PG, but he is really undersized (even heard an announcer say that standing next to him he's closer to 5-7 than he is his listed height) and at this point in his career the undrafted rookie isn't ready to be part of the rotation.
Yeah but Humphries is probably the best bigman on the team.  I get wanting to play the young guys, but Bass could and should lose a fair number of minutes to Humphries.
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2013, 09:01:19 AM »

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I do not understand why Humphries is in the doghouse, but with Bass and Fully playing decent, KO starting to play good, Fav being great, theres probably just not enough room. But thats counter productive to the tanking strategy. Humph is an expiring contract, that alone makes him an appealing trade chip. It will add gret value if he plays decently. Dont know why he's not playing at all.

As for Green, someone pointes this out in an another thread and I hopr he's right. Maybe he got benched because he's just not putting any effort. And I love that if thats the case.

Yeah I think Hump is simply the odd man out.

With Fav, Bass, Sully, and Olynyk there just aren't many minutes to go around.
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I hope Bradley gets put in Stevens' doghouse soon and never gets out. Oye.

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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2013, 09:16:22 AM »

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I do not understand why Humphries is in the doghouse, but with Bass and Fully playing decent, KO starting to play good, Fav being great, theres probably just not enough room. But thats counter productive to the tanking strategy. Humph is an expiring contract, that alone makes him an appealing trade chip. It will add gret value if he plays decently. Dont know why he's not playing at all.



Hump's contract is all that makes him a trade chip, as I said in another thread.  His play is totally irrelevant.

So he shouldn't be playing.
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I do not understand why Humphries is in the doghouse, but with Bass and Fully playing decent, KO starting to play good, Fav being great, theres probably just not enough room. But thats counter productive to the tanking strategy. Humph is an expiring contract, that alone makes him an appealing trade chip. It will add gret value if he plays decently. Dont know why he's not playing at all.



Hump's contract is all that makes him a trade chip, as I said in another thread.  His play is totally irrelevant.

So he shouldn't be playing.

For the most part this but he will get his chance.  Fav, KO, and Sully have never played an 82 game season, so they are bound to hit a wall at some point, plus I would bet at least 1 big would get slightly injured along the way.   

If Bass continues his better play than last year Ainge might try to sell high on him quickly to a playoff team so that could open more time.

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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2013, 09:45:51 AM »

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I get the sense that Stevens decides who plays and who doesn't (or who continues playing during a game) based on different factors than we, as fans, are used to looking for.  We see a relatively close game and think, "Why the heck is Green on the bench?!  He's their best scorer!" 

Meanwhile, Stevens is probably focusing on things like effort and the cohesiveness of the players on the floor as a unit.

Funny how Doc didn't get thesame measure.  Doc was just bad bad bad

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