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Re: Wallace is right, Stevens is not an NBA coach, and Crawford is poison.
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2013, 04:36:29 AM »

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Let's see if I have it yet.....

1) How come Olynyk isn't Dirk yet?
2) Why isn't Pressey playing
3) Where's Rondo?
4) Vitor's rookie of the year
5) Steven's sucks
6) I'm glad Wallace is chirping
7) I'm mad Wallace is chirping
8) Danny sucks
9) Let's trade everybody for somebody else


Now, on to game 3.

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Re: Wallace is right, Stevens is not an NBA coach, and Crawford is poison.
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2013, 04:43:51 AM »

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PP, KG, and Doc would NEVER get up 20pts or more and turn around and lose the game!


Doc would NEVER continuously play AB at point when he isn't one! He would bench AB in a minute flat! There is no way on Earth he would ever have AB playing point in the playoffs!


PP, KG, and Doc would NEVER call out their team when things aren't going well!


Crawford is taking about 100 shots per night and he is shooting a terrible percentage!



Now let's look at the real deal...

Doc, PP, and KG were a part of the team last year while we gained big lead after big lead and lost them. I can't count the times I sat there thinking, how can a team go from looking like the best to the worst in a matter of minutes!

When RR went down, AB was the PG no matter how bad he played and he played a ton of minutes! Don't talk to me about not having other options, Crawford could have performed equally as bad as AB did (offensively he would have been better, no question).

All of those guys talked about guys being selfish more than once last season and about them not giving there all out there!

Crawford this season? Well let's look at the stats. He avg 14 mins a game for the first 2 games. In those minutes...

He takes 3 shots a game, YES ONLY 3!
He is shooting a whopping 67%! Yea, you see that kid making 2-3 of his shots. He is 100% on 3s so far, YEA he has ONLY taken ONE. He is also 100% from the line 5-5. He gets `1.5 rbs per. He also dishes out 3 assists but that's b/c he had 1 in a game in 5 in another. Against his 6 assists he has ONE TURNOVER! I wish the kid would stop chucking shots up, going crazy out there taking a TOTAL of 6 shots in about 30mins played! I'm not saying Crawford is amazing but the guy has played better than any of our PG and 2s! If he has been a poison then I need to know the definition you have is, because I don't think it means what I have always thought it does!


One more parting bit of sarcasm, Doc never coached a team with PP, Ray and KG that started their season 0-2 God forbid 0-3...



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Re: Wallace is right, Stevens is not an NBA coach, and Crawford is poison.
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2013, 05:55:58 AM »

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Unless being an 'NBA coach' is down to the presence or absence of some 'Coach Chromosome' whose existence  has just come to light, that is a pretty nasty thing to say about Stevens. 
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Re: Wallace is right, Stevens is not an NBA coach, and Crawford is poison.
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2013, 06:20:49 AM »

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If this were the Lakers DA could do things different.  When Kobe 's money is free ,  they will look,around and scoop up the best two or three players in the NBA and call it rebuilding.  Not So in Boston and he has to do what is necessary to return the team to a power.   It suck s. for us Boston fans .  Going to have to be patient again.  , till he can get the team back on track.

Next few years are going to be lean.   If Stevens doesn't work out, be sure DA will do something , we know he isn't afraid of change.

Wins would be nice ,  but he is looking at the big picture .

Re: Wallace is right, Stevens is not an NBA coach, and Crawford is poison.
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2013, 06:49:32 AM »

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I think Wallace needs to pick his spots....veteran leadership, including criticism is valuable....but after 2 games, with a new coach and what is essentially a rag-tag team, without their best player and floor leader?   I'm already starting to tune him out....

Re: Wallace is right, Stevens is not an NBA coach, and Crawford is poison.
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2013, 07:01:27 AM »

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Irrationally too early to complain at this stage of the season.

Is he trying to convince DA to move him soon?

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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2013, 07:23:30 AM »

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Pressey is the only true PG we have until Rondo comes back.

Red Auerbach could not win with this roster.  To all those who said we are not tanking, we are, and it's by our roster.  We will try to win, but we will play hard and fall short.   I am ok with that as long as we develop chips and get a high pick.

Re: Wallace is right, Stevens is not an NBA coach, and Crawford is poison.
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2013, 07:40:03 AM »

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Danny handed Stevens a terribly mismatched roster with no elite talent outside of an injured Rondo.  It's unfair to judge him for his inability after two games to make chicken salad out of this team.

I think Danny recognizes that, too, which is why Stevens was given a long-term deal.


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Re: Wallace is right, Stevens is not an NBA coach, and Crawford is poison.
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2013, 07:53:14 AM »

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THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!

Jeez.

First AB,Lee or Crawford are in no shape or form pass first guards. To start off, against the the Bucks by the third I think I heard Mike say we had something like 8 assist for the team to that point. So its just not AB or Lee.

Bradley isn't shooting well, yeah, but his D is still crazy good. I still think he'd be a better 6th man cause havoc on the second unit. But we need a actual starting SG for that to happen.

Lee played well against the Bucks. Best game since the run they went on when Rondo went down.

Crawford is not a point guard, but is playing well. I think I can recall an other PG that had been starting the offense with 10 seconds left that is sitting on the bench right now healing from surgery....

Stevens is going to have a roller coaster ride of a season. He needs to see how things play out and work from all aspects. So there will be big leads that get lost. Its not like Doc and comp. lost big 20 or 30 point leads. Yeah most of them they ended up winning, but Stevens doesn't have PP,KG,RA, or Rondo to pull that off.

There is also a lot of staff with NBA experience that didn't help Stevens stop the Bucks from coming back, so its just not on him, the staff needs to help him threw the process.

It was also said that Stevens should have been an assistant first. With this team, Rondo hurt, its a better learning situation then it would be with an other head coach. There is also no pressure to win, except from the fans. He will fail, and fail a lot this season. Thats how you learn, thats how you get better.

People are seeing only results and not whats actually happening on the floor. From last season, the ball movement is better at times, they push up the floor constantly, that right there will make Rondo happy. The D is really good, the rebounding has been really, really solid. I don't remember a time when they rebounded so well on the offensive end. The style of play is just different, and with the right personal could be really fun to watch.

Now if this gets int year two or three, with a couple of elite players, and we keep getting blow out of the water and loosing 20 point leads. THEN we can talk about Stevens and company being horrible.

NOT two games in...   

Re: Wallace is right, Stevens is not an NBA coach, and Crawford is poison.
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2013, 07:55:12 AM »

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THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!

Jeez.

First AB,Lee or Crawford are in no shape or form pass first guards. To start off, against the the Bucks by the third I think I heard Mike say we had something like 8 assist for the team to that point. So its just not AB or Lee.

Bradley isn't shooting well, yeah, but his D is still crazy good. I still think he'd be a better 6th man cause havoc on the second unit. But we need a actual starting SG for that to happen.

Lee played well against the Bucks. Best game since the run they went on when Rondo went down.

Crawford is not a point guard, but is playing well. I think I can recall an other PG that had been starting the offense with 10 seconds left that is sitting on the bench right now healing from surgery....

Pressey is a raw rookie, that has some sparks of being good, but from the last couple preseason games, was a little turn over pron, and made some bad choices. Once he lets the game come to him, he should see some playing time.

Stevens is going to have a roller coaster ride of a season. He needs to see how things play out and work from all aspects. So there will be big leads that get lost. Its not like Doc and comp. lost big 20 or 30 point leads. Yeah most of them they ended up winning, but Stevens doesn't have PP,KG,RA, or Rondo to pull that off.

There is also a lot of staff with NBA experience that didn't help Stevens stop the Bucks from coming back, so its just not on him, the staff needs to help him threw the process.

It was also said that Stevens should have been an assistant first. With this team, Rondo hurt, its a better learning situation then it would be with an other head coach. There is also no pressure to win, except from the fans. He will fail, and fail a lot this season. Thats how you learn, thats how you get better.

People are seeing only results and not whats actually happening on the floor. From last season, the ball movement is better at times, they push up the floor constantly, that right there will make Rondo happy. The D is really good, the rebounding has been really, really solid. I don't remember a time when they rebounded so well on the offensive end. The style of play is just different, and with the right personal could be really fun to watch.

Now if this gets int year two or three, with a couple of elite players, and we keep getting blow out of the water and loosing 20 point leads. THEN we can talk about Stevens and company being horrible.

NOT two games in...   

Re: Wallace is right, Stevens is not an NBA coach, and Crawford is poison.
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2013, 08:33:51 AM »

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This is absurd.
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« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2013, 08:40:24 AM »

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Celtics fans are going to make this season seem much, much longer than it needs to be by overreacting to every game and minor detail and then posting silly threads like these.  Let the season play out.

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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2013, 08:42:01 AM »

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Let's see if I have it yet.....

1) How come Olynyk isn't Dirk yet?
2) Why isn't Pressey playing
3) Where's Rondo?
4) Vitor's rookie of the year
5) Steven's sucks
6) I'm glad Wallace is chirping
7) I'm mad Wallace is chirping
8) Danny sucks
9) Let's trade everybody for somebody else


Now, on to game 3.

and it is only game two of the season. cb promises to be active if nothing else this year ;D.
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« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2013, 08:50:20 AM »

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Wallace is a joke. Complains about stuff to the media just like he did with the Nets. The Nets fget rid of him and bring in a couple real leaders and now they have a team.

Wallace is jist complaining about the same stuff but on a crappiwr team. Why doesn't he lead or do something about it instead of acting like this. Hes basically accusing everyone of stat padding in  game 2 of the season amd doing it to the media. What kind of professional player is that

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« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2013, 09:28:28 AM »

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2 games down and the verdict on Stevens has already been rendered by the naysayers.

will not be surprised if they become Heat fans when we got another loss

My family had season tickets, or a spot in a skybox, from 1984-2009. Get stuffed, child. You're too young to understand the meaning of true Celtic Pride.

As for this being "too early" to criticize Stevens...this is not a criticism of Stevens. He should be pushing Butler toward the final four next March. Myself, and my old C's fan buddies, have felt dejected since we heard of Danny's astoundingly lonnnnng contract with him. The reason coaches do a stint at Assistant Coach first...is to be mentored into a very different game. Let's not teach some young turk how to fly a 747 with a full load of passengers. Anyway, enjoy your flight...I'm not going to sit here and rub my lucky shamrock, like some of y'all.

I said Crawford is poison because he is everything in a player that a Celtic should not be. He doesn't listen, he won't be humbled, he looks to shoot first...then crossover slash 2nd, and he constantly dribbles around and hoists up a shot as the clock is set to expire from 5 feet behind the 3-point line. He is essentially the same dude we watched in Atlanta and Washington. He reminds me of a bad Kobe...but again, feel free to go buy this sorry piece of trade bait's jersey.

Anyway, glad to see the general populous here is keeping their fingers crossed. I see this as a bespoke squad, designed solely to descend down and grab Wiggins. I love Wallace's honesty, and wish he could find his shot. Crash was one of the league's most electric stars before he was passed from one bad coach to another...to another.

One final thought: Danny will absolutely trade Rondo in the next 365 days if he can get the right price. Don't fawn at the arsonist that just torched your house down, I say. I'm not just unleashing negative comments. I'm pointing out how methodically this team is designed to be in the bottom 5 this year.

I think this post is evidence to the contrary.
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