Trade Fits for Bradley

[PhoSita]

With Bradley and the Celtics failing to reach an agreement on an extension, the door has clearly been opened for Bradley to be shopped around the trade deadline.

Two questions:

1. What might the asking price for Bradley be?  To my thinking, the baseline would be a 1st round pick and salary relief (e.g. also taking on Bass or Lee).

2. Who might be interested in trading for Bradley?  A team that is at least on track to compete for the playoffs, if not an actual contender, would seem to be a fit.  In particular, Bradley would make the most sense on a team that can play him at SG and still deploy him as an on-ball defender; this means a team that has a larger point guard who can defend SG's off the ball.  A team with a ball-dominant shooting guard could also work.


Teams that come to mind:

Washington
Minnesota
Houston
Portland
Dallas
Chicago
OKC


Examples:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l8phepm
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kczyhze
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mtuolzk

[Who]

A first round pick in the say #17-25 range sounds like fair compensation for Bradley at this point in time. I don't think you will get anybody to take back a bad contract on top of that.

For a veteran, I think Bradley might be able to fetch a borderline starter / high level bench player. Or for a young player already in the league, probably a bench player with role player potential but not high end potential or a high risk/reward project that hasn't worked out to date and has low trade value.

I don't think this is a good time to trade Bradley. I think his value is really low after last season. I think Avery needs to stay until Rondo comes back and hopefully Avery can regain some of strong play from 2011-12 then.

[wdleehi]

I don't think the Celtics look to trade him.  He doesn't make much money.  His size and health track record keeps his trade value down.  He is a restricted FA next year.

[PhoSita]

I don't think the Celtics look to trade him.  He doesn't make much money.  His size and health track record keeps his trade value down.  He is a restricted FA next year.

See, my concern would be that inevitably some team will offer Bradley starter money in the hopes that he fulfills his potential on the offensive end by way of his physical gifts and despite his lack of skill or consistency.

If some team offers Bradley 4 years / 30 million or more next summer, I would hope that Danny would let him go.  If Danny thinks that it's likely Avery will get that kind of money, I hope he'll trade him.

[VitorSullyandKOFan]

I love his defense but offensively he can't create his own shot.

[Humble G]

I don't think the Celtics look to trade him.  He doesn't make much money.  His size and health track record keeps his trade value down.  He is a restricted FA next year.

See, my concern would be that inevitably some team will offer Bradley starter money in the hopes that he fulfills his potential on the offensive end by way of his physical gifts and despite his lack of skill or consistency.

If some team offers Bradley 4 years / 30 million or more next summer, I would hope that Danny would let him go.  If Danny thinks that it's likely Avery will get that kind of money, I hope he'll trade him.

I agree and think we should trade him.

1.bradley and Bass for Asik +1st
  Harden can play point/facilitate and bradley can guard....smother the opposing pg plus slash and the occasional 3 + once again I think bass works well in Houston.

For BOS....idk if its a great trade but get a C and a pick

or

2.Bradley and Bass for Perk and Perry Jones + 1st
The combo of westbrook and bradley would be crazy...yes slightly undersized BUT potentially ahhhmazing

for BOS....get out of Bass contract, but gets perkins contract but its PERK  get a prospect SF/backup to green if/when we trade wallace in Perry Jones + a pick



just my thoughts take em or trash'em

Makes sense to me

[Endless Paradise]

A first round pick in the say #17-25 range sounds like fair compensation for Bradley at this point in time. I don't think you will get anybody to take back a bad contract on top of that.

This; I don't think he could fetch both.  Maybe a second-round pick and salary relief, but I don't think he is quite at the "first-rounder in/bad contract out" level.

[PhoSita]

I love his defense but offensively he can't create his own shot.

I agree that he can't create his own shot.

However, plenty of very useful offensive players can't, either.  What Avery lacks is a single elite offensive skill.  He's not a consistent or especially effective spot up shooter, he doesn't grab a lot of rebounds, and he can't finish at the rim very well -- even if he's wide open.

[VitorSullyandKOFan]

I love his defense but offensively he can't create his own shot.

I agree that he can't create his own shot.

However, plenty of very useful offensive players can't, either.  What Avery lacks is a single elite offensive skill.  He's not a consistent or especially effective spot up shooter, he doesn't grab a lot of rebounds, and he can't finish at the rim very well -- even if he's wide open.

And his ball-handling is very poor for a SG.

[PhoSita]

I love his defense but offensively he can't create his own shot.

I agree that he can't create his own shot.

However, plenty of very useful offensive players can't, either.  What Avery lacks is a single elite offensive skill.  He's not a consistent or especially effective spot up shooter, he doesn't grab a lot of rebounds, and he can't finish at the rim very well -- even if he's wide open.

And his ball-handling is very poor for a SG.

Agreed.  His ball handling is especially poor for a combo guard.  For the most part, smaller players like Bradley who perform an off-guard role have some ball-handling ability.

[kozlodoev]

With Bradley and the Celtics failing to reach an agreement on an extension, the door has clearly been opened for Bradley to be shopped around the trade deadline.

No-one is going to give you fair value for a player they may or may not be able to extend.

Also, the Celtics hold all the cards on this one, I don't feel at all that this should lead to a trade or letting Bradley go.

[Chris]

With Bradley and the Celtics failing to reach an agreement on an extension, the door has clearly been opened for Bradley to be shopped around the trade deadline.

No-one is going to give you fair value for a player they may or may not be able to extend.

Also, the Celtics hold all the cards on this one, I don't feel at all that this should lead to a trade or letting Bradley go.

Sure they will.  Because they will have his restricted free agent rights.  If they like him, they will give up value for him.

The problem is, I just am not sure how much value Bradley has right now in general.  Until he shows he can be more than a roleplayer, its hard to see him as a centerpiece of a trade for anyone significant.

[kozlodoev]

With Bradley and the Celtics failing to reach an agreement on an extension, the door has clearly been opened for Bradley to be shopped around the trade deadline.

No-one is going to give you fair value for a player they may or may not be able to extend.

Also, the Celtics hold all the cards on this one, I don't feel at all that this should lead to a trade or letting Bradley go.

Sure they will.  Because they will have his restricted free agent rights.  If they like him, they will give up value for him.

The problem is, I just am not sure how much value Bradley has right now in general.  Until he shows he can be more than a roleplayer, its hard to see him as a centerpiece of a trade for anyone significant.

They may give you _value_, but not what you'd get if he were signed on a team-friendly, long-term deal. There's always the risk that a RFA will end up being one-(and-a-half) and done.

[LooseCannon]

The trade fit will be a playoff team that suffers an injury to a key rotational guard between now and the trade deadline, but I think Ainge is committed to seeing a Rondo-Bradley backcourt for as much of the season as possible.

[kozlodoev]

The trade fit will be a playoff team that suffers an injury to a key rotational guard between now and the trade deadline, but I think Ainge is committed to seeing a Rondo-Bradley backcourt for as much of the season as possible.

Well, we suffered an injury to a "key rotational guard". How's that whole Bradley thing working for us?