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Is this that bad of a trade idea???
« on: October 29, 2013, 01:51:36 PM »

Offline Humble G

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bass and lee for Asik?

I doubt Asik is stoked to share the court with Dwight(not many people are) so he may be wanting out.

Bass gives Houston a quality vet pf with playoff exp.

and lee gives the rockets a quality 2 SG to backup and spell harden CUZ Houston does not have any backup for harden, granted harden can play big minutes but it'd be nice to give the beard a breather.

and as always it gives BOS a center! lol  ;D



2 trade ideas in 15mins.......Im ready for the season to start lol

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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2013, 01:53:19 PM »

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For the Rockets it is.

I'd love it for the C's.

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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2013, 01:55:14 PM »

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For the Rockets it is.

I'd love it for the C's.

Yup. We can swallow Asik's brutal contract and still have some cap space to play around with if we send out Bass and Lee.*


* I think. Working, so I don't have time to look at the numbers exactly.
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2013, 02:10:33 PM »

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the more i think bout it, its a decent deal for houston....get 2 good vets.

Bass & Lee would be great for houston who is going to make the playoffs and have limited role players and options outside pof harden and dwight...sure lin isnt bad and can have some good nights and same goes for Parsons(whom I really like) but it stops there, lee can handle/slash/ and defend perty well and Bass has a nice jumper to spread the floor for dwight......but the biggest thing with Bass is it gives Houston somebody who can guard those bigger SF's like carmelo and lebron.....rockets dont have anyone who could...harden is too small, and parsons too slow and......white (me too) to keep up.


hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ::)

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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2013, 02:13:55 PM »

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What's the story with Asik's contract again?

For trade purposes, it's at one figure, but for cap/payroll purposes, it's another, right?

Re: Lee, not sure if Daryl Morey is willing to reacquire him. Seems like he has plenty of cheaper options already on that Rockets roster.
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2013, 02:17:51 PM »

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the more i think bout it, its a decent deal for houston....get 2 good vets.

Bass & Lee would be great for houston who is going to make the playoffs and have limited role players and options outside pof harden and dwight...sure lin isnt bad and can have some good nights and same goes for Parsons(whom I really like) but it stops there, lee can handle/slash/ and defend perty well and Bass has a nice jumper to spread the floor for dwight......but the biggest thing with Bass is it gives Houston somebody who can guard those bigger SF's like carmelo and lebron.....rockets dont have anyone who could...harden is too small, and parsons too slow and......white (me too) to keep up.


hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ::)

Ummm, I am not sure I would say Bass can guard Melo or Lebron.  I mean, he can, but not well.  Parsons is much more athletic than Bass, and is a much better defender.  I am not sure where you get that he is slow.  He is actually very athletic.  At the combine, he had similar numbers on the agility drill to Jeff Teague, Steph Curry, Rudy Gay, OJ Mayo, and was quicker than Chris Paul and Iman Shumpert to name just a couple of guys.

Anyways, the reason Houston wouldn't do this trade isn't because Bass and Lee couldn't help them.  They could.  It is because they could get much more value for Asik. 

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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2013, 02:18:52 PM »

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What's the story with Asik's contract again?

For trade purposes, it's at one figure, but for cap/payroll purposes, it's another, right?

Re: Lee, not sure if Daryl Morey is willing to reacquire him. Seems like he has plenty of cheaper options already on that Rockets roster.

I believe for both trade and cap purposes, it is about $8 million, but the team will have to actually pay him about $14 million in real dollars next year. 

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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2013, 02:20:47 PM »

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For the Rockets it is.

I'd love it for the C's.

Beat me to it.

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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2013, 02:24:14 PM »

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the more i think bout it, its a decent deal for houston....get 2 good vets.

Bass & Lee would be great for houston who is going to make the playoffs and have limited role players and options outside pof harden and dwight...sure lin isnt bad and can have some good nights and same goes for Parsons(whom I really like) but it stops there, lee can handle/slash/ and defend perty well and Bass has a nice jumper to spread the floor for dwight......but the biggest thing with Bass is it gives Houston somebody who can guard those bigger SF's like carmelo and lebron.....rockets dont have anyone who could...harden is too small, and parsons too slow and......white (me too) to keep up.


hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ::)

Ummm, I am not sure I would say Bass can guard Melo or Lebron.  I mean, he can, but not well.  Parsons is much more athletic than Bass, and is a much better defender.  I am not sure where you get that he is slow.  He is actually very athletic.  At the combine, he had similar numbers on the agility drill to Jeff Teague, Steph Curry, Rudy Gay, OJ Mayo, and was quicker than Chris Paul and Iman Shumpert to name just a couple of guys.

Anyways, the reason Houston wouldn't do this trade isn't because Bass and Lee couldn't help them.  They could.  It is because they could get much more value for Asik. 

I felt Bass guarded lebron and melo extremely well(well i mean they still scored) last year. AND you are correct Parsons is athletic and has quickness, I just don't know about his defensive quickness and ability.... i think bass is a much better defender than most give him credit for.


as far as more value IDK who would give more  value? If im houston i dont simply give up Asik for a pick bc the pick does them no good this year, when they are trying to win now, they need some quality role players...cough lee and bass......maybe we throw in some cash or a pick (small) but i dont see other teams offering much more

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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2013, 02:26:43 PM »

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Its a terrible trade for the Rockets. You don't move an impact defensive C who's a proven starting caliber guy for an undersized backup PF and a backup SG.

Asik is their one big trade asset, they have to leverage him into something better than Bass/Lee.

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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2013, 02:38:10 PM »

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Its a terrible trade for the Rockets. You don't move an impact defensive C who's a proven starting caliber guy for an undersized backup PF and a backup SG.

Asik is their one big trade asset, they have to leverage him into something better than Bass/Lee.

Exactly.  They need a starting PF. 

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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2013, 04:34:37 PM »

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same question from me - would you? would Danny? would them?

B.Bass + J.Crawford for K.Perkins and 2014 1st???

Thunder get out of Perk's contract and receive a serviceable big. C's get a first rounder in a presumably loaded draft, slightly loosen a logjam at the PF spot and receive a center that can play some minutes, keep Rajon happy and teach our young bigs some defense. Perk's contract is quite albatross, but 2yrs is not the infinity and, well, Perk is Perk (:

So, what do you think?

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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2013, 05:20:41 PM »

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same question from me - would you? would Danny? would them?

B.Bass + J.Crawford for K.Perkins and 2014 1st???

Thunder get out of Perk's contract and receive a serviceable big. C's get a first rounder in a presumably loaded draft, slightly loosen a logjam at the PF spot and receive a center that can play some minutes, keep Rajon happy and teach our young bigs some defense. Perk's contract is quite albatross, but 2yrs is not the infinity and, well, Perk is Perk (:

So, what do you think?

I'd do the deal without getting the pick just to balance the roster.

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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2013, 10:03:56 AM »

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same question from me - would you? would Danny? would them?

B.Bass + J.Crawford for K.Perkins and 2014 1st???

Thunder get out of Perk's contract and receive a serviceable big. C's get a first rounder in a presumably loaded draft, slightly loosen a logjam at the PF spot and receive a center that can play some minutes, keep Rajon happy and teach our young bigs some defense. Perk's contract is quite albatross, but 2yrs is not the infinity and, well, Perk is Perk (:

So, what do you think?

I'd do the deal without getting the pick just to balance the roster.
Who cares about roster balance, taking on an extra 3 million dollars and downgrading a potential trade asset needs to come with something extra. A first round pick would probably be worth it.

Bass can probably be moved for an expiring at least, you have to pay to get rid of Perkins.

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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2013, 11:38:16 AM »

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same question from me - would you? would Danny? would them?

B.Bass + J.Crawford for K.Perkins and 2014 1st???

Thunder get out of Perk's contract and receive a serviceable big. C's get a first rounder in a presumably loaded draft, slightly loosen a logjam at the PF spot and receive a center that can play some minutes, keep Rajon happy and teach our young bigs some defense. Perk's contract is quite albatross, but 2yrs is not the infinity and, well, Perk is Perk (:

So, what do you think?

No thanks. Perk's not worth getting a 1st rounder back, much as it pains me to say it.
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