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Trade to Help Pistons now Cs later
« on: October 28, 2013, 02:25:16 PM »

Offline CFAN38

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As ive said in other trades in not sold that the Cs are trading Rondo but if they do why not this trade.

Pistons get. Rondo, Green, Bass, and Lee (or Bogans and pistons give Cs a protected 1st)

Celtics get. Monroe, Jennings, Villinuava, Stucky and Jerebko


The Celtics get younger and save money. Monroe is a 16pt 10 rb 23 year old center to build around. Monroe, Kelly and Sully create a very skill 3 big rotation. Jennings is flawed but very talented and only 24. Stucky and Villunuava are both expiring. Jerebko only has 2 yrs on deal and makes $$ work.

The Pistons form a team that matches up to the heat as good as anyone. They will lack a go to scoring threat but Physically Rondo, Lee, Green, Smith and Drummond are a great matchup with miami. 
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Re: Trade to Help Pistons now Cs later
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2013, 02:42:39 PM »

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I can't see them trading Monroe.  Almost a sideways move.  They are probably better off just hanging onto Jennings/Monroe.

Re: Trade to Help Pistons now Cs later
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2013, 03:16:29 PM »

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Not a bad idea.

I think this is something that could become a possibility towards the trade deadline.

One reason why I would personally do this is because I'd much rather build around a center than a point guard.

AND in my opinion, I personally don't think the drop-off from Rondo to Jennings is bad enough to not warrant making this deal.

Plus, like you say, I think having an actual center like Monroe could really help out Sully and Olynyk.

A future core of Jennings, Bradley or Brooks (whoever they stick with), Sully/Olynyk and Monroe isn't bad at all plus throw in whoever they draft in 2014.

Also, someone please correct me if I am wrong, but Jerebko is a pretty good player himself, is he not?

Can't be any worse than Bass.

Obviously the key here would be to extend Monroe but by unloading Bass and Lee, you certainly free up enough money to do so.
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Re: Trade to Help Pistons now Cs later
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2013, 03:55:39 PM »

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I would love to see the horror of a Jennings/Bradley backcourt defensively with no real rim protection. Especially if the other team has a bigger SG.

And I like Brandon Jennings as a player.
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2013, 03:59:44 PM »

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Monroe is the kind of guy I'd love to add to my team if I already have a lot of young talent and what I need is some scoring down low and some overall skill at the big position to complement my other guys.  I wouldn't trade for him as part of a rebuilding package.

Brandon Jennings is not a guy I want on a rebuilding team, period.
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2013, 04:48:07 PM »

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jennings has to prove a lot to me before I'd want him near the celtics

Re: Trade to Help Pistons now Cs later
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2013, 05:35:33 PM »

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Not a bad idea.

I think this is something that could become a possibility towards the trade deadline.

One reason why I would personally do this is because I'd much rather build around a center than a point guard.

AND in my opinion, I personally don't think the drop-off from Rondo to Jennings is bad enough to not warrant making this deal.

Plus, like you say, I think having an actual center like Monroe could really help out Sully and Olynyk.

A future core of Jennings, Bradley or Brooks (whoever they stick with), Sully/Olynyk and Monroe isn't bad at all plus throw in whoever they draft in 2014.

Also, someone please correct me if I am wrong, but Jerebko is a pretty good player himself, is he not?

Can't be any worse than Bass.

Obviously the key here would be to extend Monroe but by unloading Bass and Lee, you certainly free up enough money to do so.

Is Monroe really a center though?  I always thought of him as a PF.

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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2013, 05:43:55 PM »

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Not a bad idea.

I think this is something that could become a possibility towards the trade deadline.

One reason why I would personally do this is because I'd much rather build around a center than a point guard.

AND in my opinion, I personally don't think the drop-off from Rondo to Jennings is bad enough to not warrant making this deal.

Plus, like you say, I think having an actual center like Monroe could really help out Sully and Olynyk.

A future core of Jennings, Bradley or Brooks (whoever they stick with), Sully/Olynyk and Monroe isn't bad at all plus throw in whoever they draft in 2014.

Also, someone please correct me if I am wrong, but Jerebko is a pretty good player himself, is he not?

Can't be any worse than Bass.

Obviously the key here would be to extend Monroe but by unloading Bass and Lee, you certainly free up enough money to do so.

Is Monroe really a center though?  I always thought of him as a PF.

I think Monroe might be more effective as a C. He's been playing PF for Detroit because they want to play him with Drummond, but I wonder if he has the mobility/quickness and defensive instincts to play defense at the 4. He may be better off against slower opponents.
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2013, 05:44:45 PM »

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Not a bad idea.

I think this is something that could become a possibility towards the trade deadline.

One reason why I would personally do this is because I'd much rather build around a center than a point guard.

AND in my opinion, I personally don't think the drop-off from Rondo to Jennings is bad enough to not warrant making this deal.

Plus, like you say, I think having an actual center like Monroe could really help out Sully and Olynyk.

A future core of Jennings, Bradley or Brooks (whoever they stick with), Sully/Olynyk and Monroe isn't bad at all plus throw in whoever they draft in 2014.

Also, someone please correct me if I am wrong, but Jerebko is a pretty good player himself, is he not?

Can't be any worse than Bass.

Obviously the key here would be to extend Monroe but by unloading Bass and Lee, you certainly free up enough money to do so.

Is Monroe really a center though?  I always thought of him as a PF.

Last season, Monroe started 81 games for the Pistons, Jason Maxiell started 71, and Kyle Singler started 74.  One of them was the center.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2013, 06:00:16 PM »

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Not a bad idea.

I think this is something that could become a possibility towards the trade deadline.

One reason why I would personally do this is because I'd much rather build around a center than a point guard.

AND in my opinion, I personally don't think the drop-off from Rondo to Jennings is bad enough to not warrant making this deal.

Plus, like you say, I think having an actual center like Monroe could really help out Sully and Olynyk.

A future core of Jennings, Bradley or Brooks (whoever they stick with), Sully/Olynyk and Monroe isn't bad at all plus throw in whoever they draft in 2014.

Also, someone please correct me if I am wrong, but Jerebko is a pretty good player himself, is he not?

Can't be any worse than Bass.

Obviously the key here would be to extend Monroe but by unloading Bass and Lee, you certainly free up enough money to do so.

Is Monroe really a center though?  I always thought of him as a PF.

Last season, Monroe started 81 games for the Pistons, Jason Maxiell started 71, and Kyle Singler started 74.  One of them was the center.

Looks like he started most games at C, but stats slight better when he started at PF.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/4260/greg-monroe

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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2013, 06:12:32 PM »

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Not a bad idea.

I think this is something that could become a possibility towards the trade deadline.

One reason why I would personally do this is because I'd much rather build around a center than a point guard.

AND in my opinion, I personally don't think the drop-off from Rondo to Jennings is bad enough to not warrant making this deal.

Plus, like you say, I think having an actual center like Monroe could really help out Sully and Olynyk.

A future core of Jennings, Bradley or Brooks (whoever they stick with), Sully/Olynyk and Monroe isn't bad at all plus throw in whoever they draft in 2014.

Also, someone please correct me if I am wrong, but Jerebko is a pretty good player himself, is he not?

Can't be any worse than Bass.

Obviously the key here would be to extend Monroe but by unloading Bass and Lee, you certainly free up enough money to do so.

Is Monroe really a center though?  I always thought of him as a PF.

Last season, Monroe started 81 games for the Pistons, Jason Maxiell started 71, and Kyle Singler started 74.  One of them was the center.

Looks like he started most games at C, but stats slight better when he started at PF.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/4260/greg-monroe

According to this article he is much better suited as a PF.   Our excess of power forwards really wouldn't go away.   :-\

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2013/1/24/3912940/is-greg-monroe-capable-of-defending-nba-power-forwards

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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2013, 07:38:31 AM »

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Not a bad idea.

I think this is something that could become a possibility towards the trade deadline.

One reason why I would personally do this is because I'd much rather build around a center than a point guard.

AND in my opinion, I personally don't think the drop-off from Rondo to Jennings is bad enough to not warrant making this deal.

Plus, like you say, I think having an actual center like Monroe could really help out Sully and Olynyk.

A future core of Jennings, Bradley or Brooks (whoever they stick with), Sully/Olynyk and Monroe isn't bad at all plus throw in whoever they draft in 2014.

Also, someone please correct me if I am wrong, but Jerebko is a pretty good player himself, is he not?

Can't be any worse than Bass.

Obviously the key here would be to extend Monroe but by unloading Bass and Lee, you certainly free up enough money to do so.

Is Monroe really a center though?  I always thought of him as a PF.

Last season, Monroe started 81 games for the Pistons, Jason Maxiell started 71, and Kyle Singler started 74.  One of them was the center.

Looks like he started most games at C, but stats slight better when he started at PF.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/4260/greg-monroe

According to this article he is much better suited as a PF.   Our excess of power forwards really wouldn't go away.   :-\

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2013/1/24/3912940/is-greg-monroe-capable-of-defending-nba-power-forwards

I think that article is a Piston fan trying to convince him self that the Monroe, Smith and Drummond front court is going to work. I personally see it failing leading to a trade.

I would love to see the horror of a Jennings/Bradley backcourt defensively with no real rim protection. Especially if the other team has a bigger SG.

And I like Brandon Jennings as a player.

I agree its not ideal but still better defensive pairing then ellis and jennings in Milwaukee (finished 3 games behind Cs last year). Ideal situation would be to add a 6'5+ shooting guard to the starting lineup through the draft (Exum). Then move AB to the 6th man role. Kelly and AB off the bench would be a great start to a second unit.
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Other wrinkle to add would be out bidding Utah this offseason for Gordan Haywood and him replacing Wallace as starting SF. That gives the Cs a core where the oldest player is 24. Perfect to develop during the last years of Miami's prime. 
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2013, 08:22:44 AM »

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There is no way the Pistons do that trade.  They won't even trade Monroe for Rondo straight up and they certainly aren't going to give up other value and take on Boston's garbage.
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Re: Trade to Help Pistons now Cs later
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2013, 08:25:00 AM »

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There is no way the Pistons do that trade.  They won't even trade Monroe for Rondo straight up and they certainly aren't going to give up other value and take on Boston's garbage.

Right now they wont do the trade. But if the Drummond. Monroe and Smith experiment fails Dumars will have to go into damadge control and this trade becomes as good an option as they are going to get.
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Re: Trade to Help Pistons now Cs later
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2013, 10:07:39 AM »

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What people always seem to ignore when they mention Monroe is that he's in a contract year and he'll get PAID after this season. Trading off Rondo to acquire someone like Monroe who'll command a lot of money is not a good idea.

Oh, and Jennings just plain sucks, don't want him on the Celtics... one of the least players in the league I want to see in Green.