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« on: October 21, 2013, 05:59:38 PM »

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Outside of not having a decent pg in rondos absent , the biggest issue since ray allen has left is Not having a legit sg in the lineup. A player that is at least 6'4, that can defend, pass, shoot and make open jump shots consistently and able to drive in for layups.

Doesnt even have to be an all star calibre player but someone like a afflalo , nick young would be nice to have in the lineup.

I thought avery bradley could take his game to another level once healthy, but without the big 3 is looking real mediocre out there. He can defend, pass ok but cant shoot on a consistent basis and has almost zero penetrating to the basket skills.

Lee is a forever backup and no comment on jcraw/brooks.

Thoughts? Or are ppl just happy with AB and see him as our sg of the future?

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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2013, 06:13:18 PM »

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Overall, we are probably better of playing Jeff Green at the SG this year when Bradley goes to the bench. I would still start Bradley with Rondo and as you said, Lee is a backup that can play 10 mpg and not kill us defensively.

If we have the opportunity to acquire a wing player that can start at SG with the qualities you listed, I do it in a heart beat. I am not sure who is available when we pick in the draft or FA next season but this may be a difficult spot to fill.

We still dont have a legit center beyond the mighty Vitor, lots of roster needs here to fill and limited financial assets. No players (few) that will fetch a top shelf guard to trade either.
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2013, 06:14:14 PM »

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I'm in agreement with this (except about Nick Young being an "all around player") especially if we move forward with Jeff as our starting small forward. We're going to need more of an impact guy at the 2, and maybe move Avery to the bench. I actually think bringing him off the bench as an energy guy may be the best use for him long term.
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2013, 06:46:44 PM »

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agree with rj87 on bradley's future being a first guard off bench, unless he starts to shoot lights out when rondo comes back
as of now it almost almost makes sense to go with green but we need someone to stretch floor
a big lineup bradley, green, wallace, sully and humphries

i can live with humphries, fav and 3rd string center but with lee being so off and brooks being 1 dimensional (with his other dimensions killing team)  we either have to go with lee and bradley or crawford who seems to being changing back to his old ways - nice start to preseason for him  :-\

what can bass and lee together bring back in sg position?
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A player that is at least 6'4, that can defend, pass, shoot and make open jump shots consistently and able to drive in for layups.



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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2013, 06:53:17 PM »

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agree with rj87 on bradley's future being a first guard off bench, unless he starts to shoot lights out when rondo comes back
as of now it almost almost makes sense to go with green
a big lineup bradley, green, wallace, sully and humphries

i can live with humphries, fav and 3rd string center but with lee being so off and brooks being 1 dimensional (with his other dimensions killing team)  we either have to go with lee and bradley or crawford who seems to being changing back to his old ways - nice start to preseason for him

what can bass bring back in sg position?

I don't know if Utah will do it but I want Brandon Rush.

He's the perfect guy. Stretches the floor and shoots efficient three ball. Plays defense, decent to good. Good rebounder for his position.

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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2013, 07:13:06 PM »

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Yeah... I see Bradley as a "PG Stopper".  A little rascal you throw in to cause headaches for the league's elite point guards. 

I've always felt he was too small to be a starting SG. 

But anyways... this team lacks a lot more than just an "all-around SG".   

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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2013, 08:46:31 PM »

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Brooks is out best bet currently; but not sure that is saying much. He is a nice complement to Bradley (or Rondo) in terms of size; but not sure he has the determination and will to make it in the NBA. He is sneeky and long and a pretty good rebounder. Kind of opposite of Bradley. He has more patience and makes better decisions than Crawford. He can create his own offense better than Lee.

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Brooks is out best bet currently; but not sure that is saying much. He is a nice complement to Bradley (or Rondo) in terms of size; but not sure he has the determination and will to make it in the NBA. He is sneeky and long and a pretty good rebounder. Kind of opposite of Bradley. He has more patience and makes better decisions than Crawford. He can create his own offense better than Lee.

Brooks has a chance but its going to take a while imo. The iq is just not there early and its going to take experience to compensate for it. Think Randy Foye, if Brooks will ever even get it

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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2013, 09:44:40 PM »

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agree with rj87 on bradley's future being a first guard off bench, unless he starts to shoot lights out when rondo comes back
as of now it almost almost makes sense to go with green but we need someone to stretch floor
a big lineup bradley, green, wallace, sully and humphries

i can live with humphries, fav and 3rd string center but with lee being so off and brooks being 1 dimensional (with his other dimensions killing team)  we either have to go with lee and bradley or crawford who seems to being changing back to his old ways - nice start to preseason for him  :-\

what can bass and lee together bring back in sg position?
I like that big lineup bradley, green, wallace, sully and humphries. Good combination of defense, rebounding and athleticism.

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Yeah... I see Bradley as a "PG Stopper".  A little rascal you throw in to cause headaches for the league's elite point guards. 

I've always felt he was too small to be a starting SG. 

But anyways... this team lacks a lot more than just an "all-around SG".

  Yes, our biggest problem will be the guy who's about 8 inches taller than that.

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Not having a multitool SG isn't a good thing or anything, but I don't think it's really a terrible hinderance. You'd like to have a guy who can score, pass, and defend. But it's really not that big a deal as long as one or two skills are there. A guy who can defend and make a set 3pt shot is more than enough to get by, as long as your team has talent around him.

We don't have that last part. Id gladly attempt to get by with Courtney Lee and Avery Bradley for the next 20 years if we had 3 legitimate all-star players also on the roster. That's the difference.

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A player that is at least 6'4, that can defend, pass, shoot and make open jump shots consistently and able to drive in for layups.
Playmaking, and to a lesser extent defense, are a luxury if we're talking about 2s. I'd settle for one that can make open shots and penetrate.

On an unrelated note I watched McLemore the other day against Portland, and that kid's got a smooth stroke.

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We are way to bad to get caught up on such details.

What we need are that main parts. We can worry about the complimentary players later. We have no idea what we will need going forward because this won't be our team 2 years from now. Major parts have yet to be drafted.

Our starters are not above average at any position until Rondo comes back. Worry about the SG after the draft.

It is also irrelevant what was missing last season (the only season that Ray was missing) because that isn't our team.

And also, Lee is that person. The problem is that he ended up not being that good. The same can happen anytime you try to bring in such a guy. Since we horribly lack talent, we shouldn't be worrying about minor details of the lineup. We just need to acquire talent that is at a reasonable age.

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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2013, 11:02:57 PM »

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Yeah... I see Bradley as a "PG Stopper".  A little rascal you throw in to cause headaches for the league's elite point guards. 

I've always felt he was too small to be a starting SG. 

But anyways... this team lacks a lot more than just an "all-around SG".

  Yes, our biggest problem will be the guy who's about 8 inches taller than that.
Was Ray Allen doing a much better job on those guys? Have taller guys actually been taking advantage of Bradley's height, or is this just worrying about something that is far from a serious problem?