offense should run through KO as much as possible

[BballTim]

This is if the celts want to have a chance to win this year. Its been ridiculous the last two, three games anytime at the 2nd/3rd quarter KO is scoring or passing , celts have comeback or taken the lead now, then suddenly guys are not even passing it to him. Guys like jcraw at times and brooks almost all the time dont know how to ride the hot hand to try to win a game.

Its on stevens also to identify this issue and make plays for KO. Tell guys like brooks to stop over dribbling and utilize the inside/outside game more.

  We're in the preseason. Not only are teams not game-planning, not only are they giving playing time to players that won't ever be in their regular rotations, but the opposing players barely know who he is. It's encouraging that this works in the preseason, I'm hopeful KO amounts to something, but I wouldn't expect him to be great coming out of the gate.

Pre season is winding down fast. Some teams have one or two games left. This is not the time to experiment and set the rotation and maybe test out one or two guys.

I agree the planning aspect is not as stressed, but i do disagree that Olynyk will struggle like he did in his first two games in the pre season when the regular season begins.  He is going to avg around 10 points , 5 reb, 2-3 assist etc from the get go and i hope gets more playing time/responsibilities as the season ages and does 14 pts, 7 reb, 203 assist to content for the ROY award. (though at this rate looks like thats Oliadipo to lose)

  That would be great, but keep in mind the only 14/7 rookies in the last 8 years were Cousins, Blake Griffin and Anthony Davis.

and?? Why do you keep placing Olynyk at a lower level. Because he was drafted later??

It's a given the guys you listed have either more athleticism, longer wingspan or better rebounding/shot blocking skills. But also on the flipside

Olynyk > Cousins = higher IQ, maturity, motor
Olynyk > Griffin = Height, IQ, maturity, handle, jump shot, passing
Olynyk > Anthony = handle, jump shot

I'm not stating he will be better than any of these guys. He might just avg 10-12 and 6 for rest of the year but i'm optimistic. He is in a good position to avg numbers around the mark i mentioned bc of his capabilities, height adv and will get plenty of playing time (a theme in common with all of these guys).

He is going to be a good one and if you don't believe, just keep watching

  I'm not putting him at any level, I'm just pointing out that if you think about the number of PFs and Cs drafted in the top half or so of those 8 drafts and see that only 3 players hit those averages you'd see that it's fairly rare. It's great if he does but I'm just saying he'll need to get acclimated to the league before he's ready to be the focal point of an offense (assuming he ever gets to be ready for that).

[SHAQATTACK]

Eventually , he will be heavily evolved on set plays.....he and everybody else are new to each other,  the Team is under gong  a complete change.   

Will take time to develope a list of pay that plays to the strengths of everybody.   

Gonna take a lot of practice and time for payers jell. And t he coach too .

It's going to be a long year ...win wise....but fun in other ways

[danglertx]

The reason I think KO is going to put up really solid numbers is because he is going to draw big slow defenders at times up top on pick and pops.  This will get him those KG jumpers from the top of the arc, which I think he can nail down decently. 

When players jump out on him, I think he is cagey and will give a pump fake, one dribble and a quick pull up from just above the free throw line which seems to really be a good shot for him.

Those two shots should net him 6-12 pts every game. 

If they guard him with a smaller big, he seals off his man extremely well and JC and JS should be able to get him some easy looks.

And he runs the floor and finishes EXTREMELY well, if a bit unorthodox.  He uses a long jump to get away from defenders finishes by quickly getting the ball to the backboard.  I don't think defenders see that kind of finish often and it seems to throw them off.  I'd think he gets one or two buckets a game from transition. 

His free throws seem to be falling now that the games are slowing down for him.  Add all that up, and I could see him getting 14-20pts a game if Brooks and JC aren't just putting up shots all over the place. 

Just being tall and active can net you 5rebs a game if you don't have a dominating rebounder on your team, which the C's don't have. 

So if I had a guess, I'd say 15pts/4rebs/3asts/1stl per game guy.  The assists could go up depending on how much they let him run the offense.

[Tr1boy]

Anybody understand how olynyk got only like 5 touches in 20 min?? He had inside position at least on 5 occassions and he doesnt get the lobs. He posts his man jcraw doesnt give him the ball

When pressey plays olynyk scores ez buckets. When rondo comesback im surr it will be the same. In general the first part of the pre season our bigs were passing and getting alot of assists and our offense looked alot smoother. Not liking the way jcraw, ab is running the team these days

[manl_lui]

Anybody understand how olynyk got only like 5 touches in 20 min?? He had inside position at least on 5 occassions and he doesnt get the lobs. He posts his man jcraw doesnt give him the ball

When pressey plays olynyk scores ez buckets. When rondo comesback im surr it will be the same. In general the first part of the pre season our bigs were passing and getting alot of assists and our offense looked alot smoother. Not liking the way jcraw, ab is running the team these days

that's cuz Craw and Bradley are not legit PGs. Pressey is down with an injury so there will be no real pg to facilitate the offense.

[clover]

Anybody understand how olynyk got only like 5 touches in 20 min?? He had inside position at least on 5 occassions and he doesnt get the lobs. He posts his man jcraw doesnt give him the ball

When pressey plays olynyk scores ez buckets. When rondo comesback im surr it will be the same. In general the first part of the pre season our bigs were passing and getting alot of assists and our offense looked alot smoother. Not liking the way jcraw, ab is running the team these days

that's cuz Craw and Bradley are not legit PGs. Pressey is down with an injury so there will be no real pg to facilitate the offense.

Even before Pressey's ankle he was just an afterthought playing short minutes. But I agree, we know from summer league that he can and will get KO the ball.

[Tr1boy]

Anybody understand how olynyk got only like 5 touches in 20 min?? He had inside position at least on 5 occassions and he doesnt get the lobs. He posts his man jcraw doesnt give him the ball

When pressey plays olynyk scores ez buckets. When rondo comesback im surr it will be the same. In general the first part of the pre season our bigs were passing and getting alot of assists and our offense looked alot smoother. Not liking the way jcraw, ab is running the team these days

that's cuz Craw and Bradley are not legit PGs. Pressey is down with an injury so there will be no real pg to facilitate the offense.

While i agree they are not pure pg it amazed me last night that bass and humphries got the the lobs, post position passes and difficult passes in traffic areas.

[D.o.s.]

While I've been pleasantly surprised with his game, I'm not sure I'd make him the focal point just yet.

Why?? What else does he have to do? Who else should be the focal point? Jeff mr passive green?

I don't think there are any players on this year's squad who are good enough to be "the guy" in the way that you're claiming.

[Celtics18]

While I've been pleasantly surprised with his game, I'm not sure I'd make him the focal point just yet.

Why?? What else does he have to do? Who else should be the focal point? Jeff mr passive green?

I don't think there are any players on this year's squad who are good enough to be "the guy" in the way that you're claiming.

There is one player who will be back in about a month who is capable of being "the guy."

[D.o.s.]

While I've been pleasantly surprised with his game, I'm not sure I'd make him the focal point just yet.

Why?? What else does he have to do? Who else should be the focal point? Jeff mr passive green?

I don't think there are any players on this year's squad who are good enough to be "the guy" in the way that you're claiming.

There is one player who will be back in about a month who is capable of being "the guy."

November 21? Is that when the Nets visit the Garden?

 

[Celtics18]

While I've been pleasantly surprised with his game, I'm not sure I'd make him the focal point just yet.

Why?? What else does he have to do? Who else should be the focal point? Jeff mr passive green?

I don't think there are any players on this year's squad who are good enough to be "the guy" in the way that you're claiming.

There is one player who will be back in about a month who is capable of being "the guy."

November 21? Is that when the Nets visit the Garden?

 

For our team.  I think the "guy" I'm talking about might be back by then. 

[D.o.s.]

Yeah, I got it. We might hit 30 wins this year if you're right.

[Celtics18]

Yeah, I got it. We might hit 30 wins this year if you're right.

. . . or 40

[Section301]

I do not get all this KO love.  Boy has good hands, BBIQ, nice touch around the basket.  Big jump from there to running the whole offense through him. 

I'm convinced he could be good - starter good - some day.  But the jump from there to being a special player? I just don't see it. 

[kozlodoev]

I do not get all this KO love.  Boy has good hands, BBIQ, nice touch around the basket.  Big jump from there to running the whole offense through him. 

I'm convinced he could be good - starter good - some day.  But the jump from there to being a special player? I just don't see it.

He can pass and knows and usually figures out what the best play is fairly quickly. Everything else you listed is just bonus.

Phil Pressey is the only other active player on the Celtics right now that can do this.