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Re: Carmelo Anthony to be a Free Agent
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2013, 12:44:25 PM »

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Besides the fact they're our mortal enemy and everything seems to go their way, why do you guys think Melo would want to leave the Knicks for the Lakers?

Do you guys not think of NYC as a top destination?  It's the top media market.  NYC is basically the mecca of the universe.  Sure LA can offer some different qualities, but different doesn't mean better.

NYC and LA are the top 2 markets people want to be in.  When you're already catered to in one, you usually don't leave for the other.  What exactly is the draw here for LA?

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Re: Carmelo Anthony to be a Free Agent
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2013, 01:00:23 PM »

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I've said before that I can easily see him coming to Boston to play with Rondo.
He wants Rondo on the Knicks. If the Knicks can't get him there then perhaps we can get him here.
Melo and Rondo and Aldridge or love would be Naaaaaasstttyyyyy. Surround them with three point shooters and a defensive big.
Melo + Rondo = makes no sense. Melo gums up an offense pretty bad. What is Melo going to do while Rondo is running offense? Probably just stand at 3 point line or elbow calling for iso.

o god no, the Celtics will implode!! Melo should stay the hell away from the Celtics!! Melo will just ask for isos or want to run the offense...He may respect Rondo, but when they are on the same team, either one of them will get frustrated and probably will kill each other in the locker room

Re: Carmelo Anthony to be a Free Agent
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2013, 01:02:24 PM »

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He hasn't made any team better yet, so I don't mind him going to another rival team.  Plus he's fun to root against.

Re: Carmelo Anthony to be a Free Agent
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2013, 01:03:06 PM »

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This might be debatable but I don't think being a Knick has the same prestige as being a Laker.

Though Knicks have quite the legacy, the Lakers are kinda like the Yankees of the NBA.

Also, a couple other reasons why I think Melo would bolt NY for LA

1.) Nicer weather

2.) Being in the hollywood area could offer Melo more notoriety, endorsements and stardom.

3.)Playing with Kobe. Right now, Melo doesn't have another star in New York and I think he would love to be part of his own super-team. Also, think of the possible offense that Kobe and Melo would be capable of.

4.)The lure of the Buss and Kupchecks. I think after being shunned by Howard, they would pull out all the stops to land another big fish and return to prominence and/or relevance

Re: Carmelo Anthony to be a Free Agent
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2013, 01:27:36 PM »

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If Melo came to the Celtics he would be our best scorer and our best rebounder (save in-shape Sullinger).

You'd need to anchor that team with a solid defender at the five, but Rondo, Bradley, Green, Melo + Center would be a pretty starting five.

I'd be leery of giving him a max contract at 29, though.
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2013, 01:37:05 PM »

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I've said before that I can easily see him coming to Boston to play with Rondo.
He wants Rondo on the Knicks. If the Knicks can't get him there then perhaps we can get him here.
Melo and Rondo and Aldridge or love would be Naaaaaasstttyyyyy. Surround them with three point shooters and a defensive big.
Melo + Rondo = makes no sense. Melo gums up an offense pretty bad. What is Melo going to do while Rondo is running offense? Probably just stand at 3 point line or elbow calling for iso.

I think Melo has some big problems with shot selection but he's been part of far better offenses than Rondo has.  Of course it's not all because of him but he couldn't have "gummed" up an offense that much for them to rank very highly.

Melo is a very good spot up shooter and a dangerous screen setter so he could definitely work in tandem with Rondo.  You can flip it around and say what is Rondo going to do whenever Melo has the ball or when anyone else has the ball?


Re: Carmelo Anthony to be a Free Agent
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2013, 01:54:32 PM »

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3.)Playing with Kobe. Right now, Melo doesn't have another star in New York and I think he would love to be part of his own super-team. Also, think of the possible offense that Kobe and Melo would be capable of.
I think Kobe Bryant is really going to struggle coming off that achilles injury. I don't think playing with him is going to be much of a selling point.

Re: Carmelo Anthony to be a Free Agent
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2013, 02:14:33 PM »

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This might be debatable but I don't think being a Knick has the same prestige as being a Laker.

Though Knicks have quite the legacy, the Lakers are kinda like the Yankees of the NBA.

Also, a couple other reasons why I think Melo would bolt NY for LA

1.) Nicer weather

2.) Being in the hollywood area could offer Melo more notoriety, endorsements and stardom.

3.)Playing with Kobe. Right now, Melo doesn't have another star in New York and I think he would love to be part of his own super-team. Also, think of the possible offense that Kobe and Melo would be capable of.

4.)The lure of the Buss and Kupchecks. I think after being shunned by Howard, they would pull out all the stops to land another big fish and return to prominence and/or relevance

Ha, well I agree with your first four words!

I don't think legacy matters, or else we'd see more people coming to Boston.  Has Chicago really attracted anybody since Jordan left? We've seen guys pushing to go to the Clippers, Miami, Houston (places with no real legacies).  Legacy doesn't really matter, IMO.

On your points, I'll give you point 1, nicer weather.

2.) I don't think Hollywood offers any more endorsement deals than NYC.  NYC is the biggest market in North America, bigger than LA.  All the top ad agencies and tv networks are actually headquartered in NY.  Again NYC is like the mecca of the world!


3.)Playing with Kobe?  In the '14-'15 season, Kobe will be 36 and coming off a major injury!  Stars didn't flock to Washington to play with Jordan (though he was 38).  36 year old Kobe won't have much appeal, IMO.

4.)The lure of the Buss and Kupchecks. Sure they might pull out all the stops, but the Knicks (and maybe now Brooklyn), is the only team that can match and actually exceed LA in terms of spending power and the type of moves they can make.  LA doesn't have any edge here.  Buss might be a better owner than Dolan, but I don't think players care about owners much (or else people wouldn't be so eager to go the Clips).  I don't know how much appeal Mitch Kupchak has.  Signing Mike Brown and firing him after like 10 games? Trading Odom for nothing? Trading for Howard and losing him for nothing?  Haven't they already traded away multiple future draft picks?  Sure he's made some good moves too, but he's nothing special as a GM.  Let's not forget he signed D'Antoni who Anthony reportedly pushed out of NYC.

I agree it's debatable which city is more appealing.  But even if one is more desirable than the other, the difference is still extremely minimal, to the point they're basically even.

Any small market team is at risk of losing players to LA or NY, but NY and LA don't lose players to each other.  The money and exposure and the team's ability to spend and take risks is pretty much even.

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Re: Carmelo Anthony to be a Free Agent
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2013, 02:27:40 PM »

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This might be debatable but I don't think being a Knick has the same prestige as being a Laker.

Though Knicks have quite the legacy, the Lakers are kinda like the Yankees of the NBA.

Also, a couple other reasons why I think Melo would bolt NY for LA

1.) Nicer weather

2.) Being in the hollywood area could offer Melo more notoriety, endorsements and stardom.

3.)Playing with Kobe. Right now, Melo doesn't have another star in New York and I think he would love to be part of his own super-team. Also, think of the possible offense that Kobe and Melo would be capable of.

4.)The lure of the Buss and Kupchecks. I think after being shunned by Howard, they would pull out all the stops to land another big fish and return to prominence and/or relevance

Ha, well I agree with your first four words!

I don't think legacy matters, or else we'd see more people coming to Boston.  Has Chicago really attracted anybody since Jordan left? We've seen guys pushing to go to the Clippers, Miami, Houston (places with no real legacies).  Legacy doesn't really matter, IMO.

On your points, I'll give you point 1, nicer weather.

2.) I don't think Hollywood offers any more endorsement deals than NYC.  NYC is the biggest market in North America, bigger than LA.  All the top ad agencies and tv networks are actually headquartered in NY.  Again NYC is like the mecca of the world!


3.)Playing with Kobe?  In the '14-'15 season, Kobe will be 36 and coming off a major injury!  Stars didn't flock to Washington to play with Jordan (though he was 38).  36 year old Kobe won't have much appeal, IMO.

4.)The lure of the Buss and Kupchecks. Sure they might pull out all the stops, but the Knicks (and maybe now Brooklyn), is the only team that can match and actually exceed LA in terms of spending power and the type of moves they can make.  LA doesn't have any edge here.  Buss might be a better owner than Dolan, but I don't think players care about owners much (or else people wouldn't be so eager to go the Clips).  I don't know how much appeal Mitch Kupchak has.  Signing Mike Brown and firing him after like 10 games? Trading Odom for nothing? Trading for Howard and losing him for nothing?  Haven't they already traded away multiple future draft picks?  Sure he's made some good moves too, but he's nothing special as a GM.  Let's not forget he signed D'Antoni who Anthony reportedly pushed out of NYC.

I agree it's debatable which city is more appealing.  But even if one is more desirable than the other, the difference is still extremely minimal, to the point they're basically even.

Any small market team is at risk of losing players to LA or NY, but NY and LA don't lose players to each other.  The money and exposure and the team's ability to spend and take risks is pretty much even.

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Re: Carmelo Anthony to be a Free Agent
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2013, 05:48:03 PM »

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This might be debatable but I don't think being a Knick has the same prestige as being a Laker.

Though Knicks have quite the legacy, the Lakers are kinda like the Yankees of the NBA.

Also, a couple other reasons why I think Melo would bolt NY for LA

1.) Nicer weather

2.) Being in the hollywood area could offer Melo more notoriety, endorsements and stardom.

3.)Playing with Kobe. Right now, Melo doesn't have another star in New York and I think he would love to be part of his own super-team. Also, think of the possible offense that Kobe and Melo would be capable of.

4.)The lure of the Buss and Kupchecks. I think after being shunned by Howard, they would pull out all the stops to land another big fish and return to prominence and/or relevance

Ha, well I agree with your first four words!

I don't think legacy matters, or else we'd see more people coming to Boston.  Has Chicago really attracted anybody since Jordan left? We've seen guys pushing to go to the Clippers, Miami, Houston (places with no real legacies).  Legacy doesn't really matter, IMO.

On your points, I'll give you point 1, nicer weather.

2.) I don't think Hollywood offers any more endorsement deals than NYC.  NYC is the biggest market in North America, bigger than LA.  All the top ad agencies and tv networks are actually headquartered in NY.  Again NYC is like the mecca of the world!


3.)Playing with Kobe?  In the '14-'15 season, Kobe will be 36 and coming off a major injury!  Stars didn't flock to Washington to play with Jordan (though he was 38).  36 year old Kobe won't have much appeal, IMO.

4.)The lure of the Buss and Kupchecks. Sure they might pull out all the stops, but the Knicks (and maybe now Brooklyn), is the only team that can match and actually exceed LA in terms of spending power and the type of moves they can make.  LA doesn't have any edge here.  Buss might be a better owner than Dolan, but I don't think players care about owners much (or else people wouldn't be so eager to go the Clips).  I don't know how much appeal Mitch Kupchak has.  Signing Mike Brown and firing him after like 10 games? Trading Odom for nothing? Trading for Howard and losing him for nothing?  Haven't they already traded away multiple future draft picks?  Sure he's made some good moves too, but he's nothing special as a GM.  Let's not forget he signed D'Antoni who Anthony reportedly pushed out of NYC.

I agree it's debatable which city is more appealing.  But even if one is more desirable than the other, the difference is still extremely minimal, to the point they're basically even.

Any small market team is at risk of losing players to LA or NY, but NY and LA don't lose players to each other.  The money and exposure and the team's ability to spend and take risks is pretty much even.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjsXo9l6I8

Then why does Carmelo want to be a free agent?

Also, regarding your point about the Rockets not having a legacy.

They definitely do have one as many great players reached success with them including Sampson, Olajuwon, Yao Ming.

The Rockets also were one of the best teams in the NBA during the 80s and 90s.


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Re: Carmelo Anthony to be a Free Agent
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2013, 06:55:35 PM »

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This might be debatable but I don't think being a Knick has the same prestige as being a Laker.

Though Knicks have quite the legacy, the Lakers are kinda like the Yankees of the NBA.

Also, a couple other reasons why I think Melo would bolt NY for LA

1.) Nicer weather

2.) Being in the hollywood area could offer Melo more notoriety, endorsements and stardom.

3.)Playing with Kobe. Right now, Melo doesn't have another star in New York and I think he would love to be part of his own super-team. Also, think of the possible offense that Kobe and Melo would be capable of.

4.)The lure of the Buss and Kupchecks. I think after being shunned by Howard, they would pull out all the stops to land another big fish and return to prominence and/or relevance

Ha, well I agree with your first four words!

I don't think legacy matters, or else we'd see more people coming to Boston.  Has Chicago really attracted anybody since Jordan left? We've seen guys pushing to go to the Clippers, Miami, Houston (places with no real legacies).  Legacy doesn't really matter, IMO.

On your points, I'll give you point 1, nicer weather.

2.) I don't think Hollywood offers any more endorsement deals than NYC.  NYC is the biggest market in North America, bigger than LA.  All the top ad agencies and tv networks are actually headquartered in NY.  Again NYC is like the mecca of the world!


3.)Playing with Kobe?  In the '14-'15 season, Kobe will be 36 and coming off a major injury!  Stars didn't flock to Washington to play with Jordan (though he was 38).  36 year old Kobe won't have much appeal, IMO.

4.)The lure of the Buss and Kupchecks. Sure they might pull out all the stops, but the Knicks (and maybe now Brooklyn), is the only team that can match and actually exceed LA in terms of spending power and the type of moves they can make.  LA doesn't have any edge here.  Buss might be a better owner than Dolan, but I don't think players care about owners much (or else people wouldn't be so eager to go the Clips).  I don't know how much appeal Mitch Kupchak has.  Signing Mike Brown and firing him after like 10 games? Trading Odom for nothing? Trading for Howard and losing him for nothing?  Haven't they already traded away multiple future draft picks?  Sure he's made some good moves too, but he's nothing special as a GM.  Let's not forget he signed D'Antoni who Anthony reportedly pushed out of NYC.

I agree it's debatable which city is more appealing.  But even if one is more desirable than the other, the difference is still extremely minimal, to the point they're basically even.

Any small market team is at risk of losing players to LA or NY, but NY and LA don't lose players to each other.  The money and exposure and the team's ability to spend and take risks is pretty much even.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjsXo9l6I8

Then why does Carmelo want to be a free agent?

Also, I'd point your point about the Rockets not having a legacy.

They definitely do have one as many great players reached success with them including Sampson, Olajuwon, Yao Ming.

The Rockets also were one of the best teams in the NBA during the 80s and 90s.

Zach Lowe summed it up pretty well:

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[T]here is a zero percent chance Carmelo Anthony would sign an extension with the Knicks right now. Such an extension could only tack two years onto Melo’s current deal, since Anthony has an option for 2014-15. He can secure two additional years of guaranteed megabucks by opting out, hitting free agency, and hoping the Knicks sign him to a five-year maximum contract. Other teams in free agency could only sign Melo to a four-year max contract, but even that shorter deal would provide an extra year of moolah for Melo compared with an extension signed now. Anthony drew headlines today by declaring in the New York Observer that he would opt out of his contract and test free agency, but this is basically a nonstory. He was never going to do anything else.

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Re: Carmelo Anthony to be a Free Agent
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2013, 07:25:19 PM »

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I've said before that I can easily see him coming to Boston to play with Rondo.
He wants Rondo on the Knicks. If the Knicks can't get him there then perhaps we can get him here.
Melo and Rondo and Aldridge or love would be Naaaaaasstttyyyyy. Surround them with three point shooters and a defensive big.
Melo + Rondo = makes no sense. Melo gums up an offense pretty bad. What is Melo going to do while Rondo is running offense? Probably just stand at 3 point line or elbow calling for iso.

Funny how they said the same thing about Pierce before 2008.

Melo and Pierce have VERY similar games. Melo has NEVER had a good a good complementary player to play next to. Melo can be a facilitator if he wants to be and could be a good defender if he wanted to be.

People always forget that Pierce was looked at as a selfish player before we won a championship, just like Melo has been looked at through his career. I'd take Melo any day of the week.

Re: Carmelo Anthony to be a Free Agent
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2013, 07:28:47 PM »

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I've said before that I can easily see him coming to Boston to play with Rondo.
He wants Rondo on the Knicks. If the Knicks can't get him there then perhaps we can get him here.
Melo and Rondo and Aldridge or love would be Naaaaaasstttyyyyy. Surround them with three point shooters and a defensive big.
Melo + Rondo = makes no sense. Melo gums up an offense pretty bad. What is Melo going to do while Rondo is running offense? Probably just stand at 3 point line or elbow calling for iso.

Funny how they said the same thing about Pierce before 2008.

Melo and Pierce have VERY similar games. Melo has NEVER had a good a good complementary player to play next to. Melo can be a facilitator if he wants to be.
I think that Melo and Rondo can coexist, it would just take some getting used to. If Melo is willing to sacrifice a few touches to win more then that tandem could be dangerous.

Re: Carmelo Anthony to be a Free Agent
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2013, 07:35:23 PM »

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He will Laker bound ......  Carmelo is dying to be a Laker....they are dying for him to be there

Lebron.....won't leave Riley and Heat for Lakers ......yet anyways ....he ll stay down ther a couple more years I think.

LA will pull out all stops to,acquire ...... Carmelo ,  James , and worst of all Rondo

I think that is their  "wish list"

Carmelo is good as gone to LA .......

DA will have to pull out his wallet to keep Rondo   I think.     Or he'll trade Rondo , to keep from having to pay him a kings ransom before LA get a shot at him.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony to be a Free Agent
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Seeing that I think he's one of the most overrated players in the last 20 years or so I'll be happy if he's in NY or LA. Because I don't see a team with him on it doing all that much.
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