The true errors were made in the 2012 offseason.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

This seems like revisionist interpretation.

Last season's problems were very clearly and obviously more to do with injuries and (lack of) health than anything else.

Clearly? Obviously?
The locker room was split from the start and Doc was unable, with the help of 2 HOF's to ever get it together. The Lee and Terry signings were what sealed the fate. We say Blatche is a headcase and sign a guy who gets a Leprechaun holding the trophy and Garoneteeeed we'd get back to the promise land.

I KNEW we were borked right then. He was a big reason that locker room went south. Play it then say it bruh.

Injuries were clearly the reason. I don't agree.

To the OP...I agree that the fools gold of the 7 game series caused what we now have. Doc's Circus was what led to the particulars but this began right when you say.

TP

[BballTim]

Look, hindsight is 20/20, I understand that. The Celtics were coming off a successful campaign of going to the ECF's game 7. Bringing back the role players of that team and adding role players seemed like the logical approach. Ainge resigned Bass and Green to long term deals, and brought in Lee and Terry on long term role player type deals. I was on board with it when the deals were made and I was wrong. Ainge should have realized that making to the ECF that season was fools gold. Rose was injured, giving us all but a clear path to meet Miami.

  Sure, Rose was injured. So was Green, Wilcox and PP playing through a sprained MCL was the only thing that vaguely resembled a healthy wing player on the roster. Take the team that lost to Miami in 7, add in Bradley/Green/Sullinger/Wilcox and the like and you have at least an outside shot at contending. When will we be in that position again? Is it worth passing up a chance like that in order to have a lower payroll right now?

[D.o.s.]

This seems like revisionist interpretation.

Last season's problems were very clearly and obviously more to do with injuries and (lack of) health than anything else.

Clearly? Obviously?
The locker room was split from the start and Doc was unable, with the help of 2 HOF's to ever get it together. The Lee and Terry signings were what sealed the fate. We say Blatche is a headcase and sign a guy who gets a Leprechaun holding the trophy and Garoneteeeed we'd get back to the promise land.

I KNEW we were borked right then. He was a big reason that locker room went south. Play it then say it bruh.

Injuries were clearly the reason. I don't agree.

To the OP...I agree that the fools gold of the 7 game series caused what we now have. Doc's Circus was what led to the particulars but this began right when you say.

TP

Now that sounds like a revisionist take. 

[jambr380]

The Gerald Wallace part is really the killer, but another big contract was needed to even out the trade and it really had to be him - with or without Terry in the deal.

But couldn't have Bogans been signed to an expiring, for even more, to make up the difference?

Why would the Nets want to do that if they could get out of Wallace's contract?

I think the reason we got so many firsts was because we took on Wallace's contract. Would Bogans have been allowed to make 10 mill [or so] to cover that portion? If so, then maybe you have a point, as Terry was basically a straight swap for Bogans.

I know Green isn't tearing it up now, but I still think he was a very solid signing at his current pricetag.

[Boris Badenov]

Look, hindsight is 20/20, I understand that. The Celtics were coming off a successful campaign of going to the ECF's game 7. Bringing back the role players of that team and adding role players seemed like the logical approach. Ainge resigned Bass and Green to long term deals, and brought in Lee and Terry on long term role player type deals. I was on board with it when the deals were made and I was wrong. Ainge should have realized that making to the ECF that season was fools gold. Rose was injured, giving us all but a clear path to meet Miami.

  Sure, Rose was injured. So was Green, Wilcox and PP playing through a sprained MCL was the only thing that vaguely resembled a healthy wing player on the roster. Take the team that lost to Miami in 7, add in Bradley/Green/Sullinger/Wilcox and the like and you have at least an outside shot at contending. When will we be in that position again? Is it worth passing up a chance like that in order to have a lower payroll right now?

Yeah, I don't think Danny was somehow misled after the ECF run by something as obvious as injuries to other teams' star players. He's smart enough to understand that we got some breaks.

Of course, he might have also thought, who's to say we wouldn't get the same breaks again? Like Tim says, it's a gamble, but I don't think Danny misunderstood the odds.

As it happened things broke against us rather than for us last year, but I don't think you can clearly call the decision to run it back a mistake.

I was actually against running it back, for what that's worth - I thought our injury/breakdown risk was too high with so many old-timers. But I wouldn't claim to know more about those things than Danny did.

[Endless Paradise]

The Gerald Wallace part is really the killer, but another big contract was needed to even out the trade and it really had to be him - with or without Terry in the deal.

But couldn't have Bogans been signed to an expiring, for even more, to make up the difference?

Why would the Nets want to do that if they could get out of Wallace's contract?

I think the reason we got so many firsts was because we took on Wallace's contract. Would Bogans have been allowed to make 10 mill [or so] to cover that portion? If so, then maybe you have a point, as Terry was basically a straight swap for Bogans.

I know Green isn't tearing it up now, but I still think he was a very solid signing at his current pricetag.

I think one of the picks and maybe the right to swap were the compensation for taking on Wallace's contract.  The original deal, from what Billy King has said, was Pierce for Humphries and a 1st.  We know the Celtics were flirting with the KG for Jordan-and-a-1st trade before the league killed that.  It's possible that Boston continued to view KG as worth a first round pick from Brooklyn considering they were getting lesser players in return.

The only limit on sign-and-trade salaries is the player maximum, so the Nets could've theoretically signed Bogans for whatever amount was needed to cover the difference, but that would've been stupid on their part.  They had a way to dump Wallace's contract and potentially avoid the repeater tax in 2015, so they went for it.

[Moranis]

I've been saying this since the summer of 2012.  It was an awful offseason.  I hated every single move that was made except perhaps the signing of KG (I would have preferred just 1 year instead of 3 to keep the flexibility but it is hard to argue about signing a guy like KG).

[aingeforthree]

Look, hindsight is 20/20, I understand that. The Celtics were coming off a successful campaign of going to the ECF's game 7. Bringing back the role players of that team and adding role players seemed like the logical approach. Ainge resigned Bass and Green to long term deals, and brought in Lee and Terry on long term role player type deals. I was on board with it when the deals were made and I was wrong. Ainge should have realized that making to the ECF that season was fools gold. Rose was injured, giving us all but a clear path to meet Miami.

How much better shape would this team be in if Allen, Green and Bass were not re-signed and Lee and Terry were not brought in during that offseason? And instead, Ainge did what he could, and brought in players to expire after the 2013 season? We could have pulled the same deal off with the Clippers and the Nets, minus Wallace. We would be sitting pretty right now with a ton of cap space.

Fools gold ?  With Rondo, Pierce, & Garnett, making it to the ECF or winning a championship is never fools gold.  Those types of players win ball games.

Ainge made the right move and gave it another go.  I don't look at it as an error.

Now, we're setup perfectly to add quality to this organization and contend within a 3/4 year window.  I can't complain.