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Re: Marcus Smart -- Keep or Trade?
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2013, 11:43:43 AM »

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Keep him. He looks like a guy who would want to take over games, and can.

As of now I'd really have him over any of our SG's. He solves two problems while having a potential elite player, a backup PG and a one on one scorer.

When has he shown he can take over vs top level teams?

Re: Marcus Smart -- Keep or Trade?
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2013, 11:52:56 AM »

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Keep him. He looks like a guy who would want to take over games, and can.

As of now I'd really have him over any of our SG's. He solves two problems while having a potential elite player, a backup PG and a one on one scorer.

When has he shown he can take over vs top level teams?

apparently you didn't see him score 39 pts against Memphis who was ranked 11th team at the time...he is more talented than anyone on the C's roster other than Rondo...

Re: Marcus Smart -- Keep or Trade?
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2013, 12:14:03 PM »

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Smart is back to playing not so elite. Shooting efficiency remains a concern.

He is a good all around player, but not franchise or take over imo. A third scoring option

Dante exum is the guy i want. He has the height , iq and his ability to drive and finish or drive and pass is elite. If he had a better shot , he would be a top three pick easily.

Still without a consistent jumper a top 6-7 pick. I pray danny can do something to get this kid if we are picking around the 10th spot

Uhhh Smart has been averaging 31 PPG on 50% shooting while getting to the line at least 10 times a game for the last three games. No offense but your post comes at an odd time. He's been pretty good from the three point line the last few games also overall. A guy who can get to the line this many times will most likely be a very, very efficient player even if he settles into a mediocre 3P% (~30-35%).

Re: Marcus Smart -- Keep or Trade?
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2013, 12:17:59 PM »

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Keep him. He looks like a guy who would want to take over games, and can.

As of now I'd really have him over any of our SG's. He solves two problems while having a potential elite player, a backup PG and a one on one scorer.


When has he shown he can take over vs top level teams?

November 19th vs (11) Memphis.

39 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, 5 steals, 2 blocks, 52% FG, 50% 3PT (5-10), 12-16 FT.

Completely took over.

He showed up again against Purdue yesterday, although Purdue isn't a ranked team.
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Re: Marcus Smart -- Keep or Trade?
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2013, 12:20:01 PM »

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Smart is back to playing not so elite. Shooting efficiency remains a concern.

He is a good all around player, but not franchise or take over imo. A third scoring option

Dante exum is the guy i want. He has the height , iq and his ability to drive and finish or drive and pass is elite. If he had a better shot , he would be a top three pick easily.

Still without a consistent jumper a top 6-7 pick. I pray danny can do something to get this kid if we are picking around the 10th spot

Uhhh Smart has been averaging 31 PPG on 50% shooting while getting to the line at least 10 times a game for the last three games. No offense but your post comes at an odd time. He's been pretty good from the three point line the last few games also overall. A guy who can get to the line this many times will most likely be a very, very efficient player even if he settles into a mediocre 3P% (~30-35%).

This is very odd - Smart has been one of the most dominate players in college basketball, if not the most dominate.  Parker is the other one but I would give the nod to Smart because he is a lock down defender.  He is shooting 47% from the field 40% from 3 and 70% from the line...

Re: Marcus Smart -- Keep or Trade?
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2013, 12:20:47 PM »

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Keep him. He looks like a guy who would want to take over games, and can.

As of now I'd really have him over any of our SG's. He solves two problems while having a potential elite player, a backup PG and a one on one scorer.

When has he shown he can take over vs top level teams?

apparently you didn't see him score 39 pts against Memphis who was ranked 11th team at the time...he is more talented than anyone on the C's roster other than Rondo...

Memphis is not a top top team. They dont even have 1 player projected to be chosen in the 1st round for 2014 , 2015 mock drafts

Still it was a good game by him.But since then, what has he done?

Im not stating he is not decent. But he does nothing at an elite level.  Especiall shooting is inconsistent.  If we draft him, we would have three starters who are streaky shooters in the sf, sg, pg positions

Re: Marcus Smart -- Keep or Trade?
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2013, 12:23:47 PM »

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Smart is back to playing not so elite. Shooting efficiency remains a concern.

He is a good all around player, but not franchise or take over imo. A third scoring option

Dante exum is the guy i want. He has the height , iq and his ability to drive and finish or drive and pass is elite. If he had a better shot , he would be a top three pick easily.

Still without a consistent jumper a top 6-7 pick. I pray danny can do something to get this kid if we are picking around the 10th spot

Uhhh Smart has been averaging 31 PPG on 50% shooting while getting to the line at least 10 times a game for the last three games. No offense but your post comes at an odd time. He's been pretty good from the three point line the last few games also overall. A guy who can get to the line this many times will most likely be a very, very efficient player even if he settles into a mediocre 3P% (~30-35%).

This is very odd - Smart has been one of the most dominate players in college basketball, if not the most dominate.  Parker is the other one but I would give the nod to Smart because he is a lock down defender.  He is shooting 47% from the field 40% from 3 and 70% from the line...

Exactly. I feel Smart has shown most things you want from a top tier scorer in the NBA. He gets to the line with ease, he's been shooting the three well, and his shot selection has been pretty good so far. Feels like James Harden out there right now.

Re: Marcus Smart -- Keep or Trade?
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2013, 12:26:09 PM »

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Keep him. He looks like a guy who would want to take over games, and can.

As of now I'd really have him over any of our SG's. He solves two problems while having a potential elite player, a backup PG and a one on one scorer.

When has he shown he can take over vs top level teams?

apparently you didn't see him score 39 pts against Memphis who was ranked 11th team at the time...he is more talented than anyone on the C's roster other than Rondo...

Memphis is not a top top team. They dont even have 1 player projected to be chosen in the 1st round for 2014 , 2015 mock drafts

Still it was a good game by him.But since then, what has he done?

Im not stating he is not decent. But he does nothing at an elite level.  Especiall shooting is inconsistent.  If we draft him, we would have three starters who are streaky shooters in the sf, sg, pg positions

Just because they have no NBA prospects doesnt mean they are not a top team. They are still a better team than about 300 schools in the nation. They are ranked better than Michigan at the time, a team with two porjected 2014 first rounders in McGary and Robinson III. New Mexico has an NBA prospect in Kendall Williams but Memphis was ranked better than them at the time. Being a good college team is not about having NBA prospects, ask Gonzaga.

They are ranked 11th in the nation because they are good, and Marcus Smart single handedly destroyed a good team.
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Re: Marcus Smart -- Keep or Trade?
« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2013, 12:26:47 PM »

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Smart is back to playing not so elite. Shooting efficiency remains a concern.

He is a good all around player, but not franchise or take over imo. A third scoring option

Dante exum is the guy i want. He has the height , iq and his ability to drive and finish or drive and pass is elite. If he had a better shot , he would be a top three pick easily.

Still without a consistent jumper a top 6-7 pick. I pray danny can do something to get this kid if we are picking around the 10th spot

Uhhh Smart has been averaging 31 PPG on 50% shooting while getting to the line at least 10 times a game for the last three games. No offense but your post comes at an odd time. He's been pretty good from the three point line the last few games also overall. A guy who can get to the line this many times will most likely be a very, very efficient player even if he settles into a mediocre 3P% (~30-35%).

This is very odd - Smart has been one of the most dominate players in college basketball, if not the most dominate.  Parker is the other one but I would give the nod to Smart because he is a lock down defender.  He is shooting 47% from the field 40% from 3 and 70% from the line...

Exactly. I feel Smart has shown most things you want from a top tier scorer in the NBA. He gets to the line with ease, he's been shooting the three well, and his shot selection has been pretty good so far. Feels like James Harden out there right now.

Yea - he is a stud, he feels like a young Wade to me, they are playing at 1:30 on ESPN against Butler...

Re: Marcus Smart -- Keep or Trade?
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2013, 12:30:20 PM »

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Keep him. He looks like a guy who would want to take over games, and can.

As of now I'd really have him over any of our SG's. He solves two problems while having a potential elite player, a backup PG and a one on one scorer.

When has he shown he can take over vs top level teams?

apparently you didn't see him score 39 pts against Memphis who was ranked 11th team at the time...he is more talented than anyone on the C's roster other than Rondo...

Memphis is not a top top team. They dont even have 1 player projected to be chosen in the 1st round for 2014 , 2015 mock drafts

Still it was a good game by him.But since then, what has he done?

Im not stating he is not decent. But he does nothing at an elite level.  Especiall shooting is inconsistent.  If we draft him, we would have three starters who are streaky shooters in the sf, sg, pg positions

He's only, you know, scored 25 and 30 points in the two games after that 39 point game, haha. Also he's been getting to the FT line at an elite level since his freshman year. I hope you realize how valuable of a skill that actually is. The ability to get to the line is a big, BIG deal in the NBA.

Re: Marcus Smart -- Keep or Trade?
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2013, 12:34:53 PM »

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Keep him. He looks like a guy who would want to take over games, and can.

As of now I'd really have him over any of our SG's. He solves two problems while having a potential elite player, a backup PG and a one on one scorer.

When has he shown he can take over vs top level teams?

apparently you didn't see him score 39 pts against Memphis who was ranked 11th team at the time...he is more talented than anyone on the C's roster other than Rondo...

Memphis is not a top top team. They dont even have 1 player projected to be chosen in the 1st round for 2014 , 2015 mock drafts

Still it was a good game by him.But since then, what has he done?

Im not stating he is not decent. But he does nothing at an elite level.  Especiall shooting is inconsistent.  If we draft him, we would have three starters who are streaky shooters in the sf, sg, pg positions

He's only, you know, scored 25 and 30 points in the two games after that 39 point game, haha. Also he's been getting to the FT line at an elite level since his freshman year. I hope you realize how valuable of a skill that actually is. The ability to get to the line is a big, BIG deal in the NBA.

hahah....it makes me wonder that he hasn't seen him play?  The kid is a stud and he is a building block to any team he goes to.  If he was on the C's right now he would be their most talented player outside of Rondo.  In his peak years he will be a guy that averages 20PPG and be able to guard either guard spot at an elite level.  Future NBA All-Star....

Re: Marcus Smart -- Keep or Trade?
« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2013, 12:41:52 PM »

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Keep him. He looks like a guy who would want to take over games, and can.

As of now I'd really have him over any of our SG's. He solves two problems while having a potential elite player, a backup PG and a one on one scorer.

When has he shown he can take over vs top level teams?

apparently you didn't see him score 39 pts against Memphis who was ranked 11th team at the time...he is more talented than anyone on the C's roster other than Rondo...

Memphis is not a top top team. They dont even have 1 player projected to be chosen in the 1st round for 2014 , 2015 mock drafts

Still it was a good game by him.But since then, what has he done?

Im not stating he is not decent. But he does nothing at an elite level.  Especiall shooting is inconsistent.  If we draft him, we would have three starters who are streaky shooters in the sf, sg, pg positions

He's only, you know, scored 25 and 30 points in the two games after that 39 point game, haha. Also he's been getting to the FT line at an elite level since his freshman year. I hope you realize how valuable of a skill that actually is. The ability to get to the line is a big, BIG deal in the NBA.

He needs to do well against better teams 1st. Not purdue

Im not down on picking him if the situation comes to it. But i like exum better.

Smart is not really a pg, not really a sg. He may have some problems vs legit pg or sg in the nba.

Re: Marcus Smart -- Keep or Trade?
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2013, 12:47:50 PM »

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Keep him. He looks like a guy who would want to take over games, and can.

As of now I'd really have him over any of our SG's. He solves two problems while having a potential elite player, a backup PG and a one on one scorer.

When has he shown he can take over vs top level teams?

apparently you didn't see him score 39 pts against Memphis who was ranked 11th team at the time...he is more talented than anyone on the C's roster other than Rondo...

Memphis is not a top top team. They dont even have 1 player projected to be chosen in the 1st round for 2014 , 2015 mock drafts

Still it was a good game by him.But since then, what has he done?

Im not stating he is not decent. But he does nothing at an elite level.  Especiall shooting is inconsistent.  If we draft him, we would have three starters who are streaky shooters in the sf, sg, pg positions

He's only, you know, scored 25 and 30 points in the two games after that 39 point game, haha. Also he's been getting to the FT line at an elite level since his freshman year. I hope you realize how valuable of a skill that actually is. The ability to get to the line is a big, BIG deal in the NBA.

He needs to do well against better teams 1st. Not purdue

Im not down on picking him if the situation comes to it. But i like exum better.

Smart is not really a pg, not really a sg. He may have some problems vs legit pg or sg in the nba.

How many times do we have to bring up the fact thta Memphis is a tournament team?

But alright, I'll cave. He needs to show it. But i wont be surprised if he continues this level of play even against Kansas and Baylor. Smart is for real.
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Re: Marcus Smart -- Keep or Trade?
« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2013, 12:48:01 PM »

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Keep him. He looks like a guy who would want to take over games, and can.

As of now I'd really have him over any of our SG's. He solves two problems while having a potential elite player, a backup PG and a one on one scorer.

When has he shown he can take over vs top level teams?

apparently you didn't see him score 39 pts against Memphis who was ranked 11th team at the time...he is more talented than anyone on the C's roster other than Rondo...

Memphis is not a top top team. They dont even have 1 player projected to be chosen in the 1st round for 2014 , 2015 mock drafts

Still it was a good game by him.But since then, what has he done?

Im not stating he is not decent. But he does nothing at an elite level.  Especiall shooting is inconsistent.  If we draft him, we would have three starters who are streaky shooters in the sf, sg, pg positions

He's only, you know, scored 25 and 30 points in the two games after that 39 point game, haha. Also he's been getting to the FT line at an elite level since his freshman year. I hope you realize how valuable of a skill that actually is. The ability to get to the line is a big, BIG deal in the NBA.

He needs to do well against better teams 1st. Not purdue

Im not down on picking him if the situation comes to it. But i like exum better.

Smart is not really a pg, not really a sg. He may have some problems vs legit pg or sg in the nba.

Well the numbers would say other wise - I went back and looked at his college career.  He has played 9 games against top 25 teams and he is averaging 22.3 ppg....That counts Kansas, who was one of the best teams in the country last year and he averaged 20.5 points a game in those two games.  I would say his numbers are better against better teams. 

Re: Marcus Smart -- Keep or Trade?
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2013, 01:20:24 PM »

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Slightly unrelated, but:
Should he have declared in the draft that just passed? Wiggins and Parker are surely going to take the top 2 spots. Smart could have gotten the contract that a first overall gets.

There was a really interesting article on Grantland about this exact thing:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10041111/marcus-smart-returns-oklahoma-state

The more I hear about Smart, the more I like him.
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