Sullinger and Olynyk duo

[kozlodoev]

Sullinger will break all sorts of records for having his inside shots stuffed this season.

Is that the only thing you care about?? He was the best player of the game for the celts

He looked more mobile also which is a relief.

Sully has got to be dannys biggest steal of the draft yet

No, he wasn't. Gerald Wallace was the best player in the game for the Celtics, which is somewhat unfortunate, given that he's slated for the bench, and will be out the door sooner rather than later.

And yes, given the expectations placed on Sullinger, I care a lot about his limited ability to finish against bigger people. So should you.

[timobusa]

Sullinger will break all sorts of records for having his inside shots stuffed this season.

Is that the only thing you care about?? He was the best player of the game for the celts

He looked more mobile also which is a relief.

Sully has got to be dannys biggest steal of the draft yet

No, he wasn't. Gerald Wallace was the best player in the game for the Celtics, which is somewhat unfortunate, given that he's slated for the bench, and will be out the door sooner rather than later.

And yes, given the expectations placed on Sullinger, I care a lot about his limited ability to finish against bigger people. So should you.

Disagree.
Wallace was great last night, but Sully was by far the best player last night.
Wallace was open hitting shots, like he's supposed to.
Sully was coming out of a back surgery. Out of shape, probably winded after 2 trips up and down the court. But still managed to do what he did.

And his limited ability to finish against bigger players?
He's gonna be fine. He's gonna learn how to do that, and he's already good at it, using pump fakes and using his body to carve out space.

[Chris]

Sullinger will break all sorts of records for having his inside shots stuffed this season.

Is that the only thing you care about?? He was the best player of the game for the celts

He looked more mobile also which is a relief.

Sully has got to be dannys biggest steal of the draft yet

No, he wasn't. Gerald Wallace was the best player in the game for the Celtics, which is somewhat unfortunate, given that he's slated for the bench, and will be out the door sooner rather than later.

And yes, given the expectations placed on Sullinger, I care a lot about his limited ability to finish against bigger people. So should you.

I think it is great news that Wallace was the C's best player, because that means he is on the road to going out the door, and perhaps even bringing some value back.

I really love the Sully/Kelly/Wallace grouping up front.  Maybe not longterm, but in the context of this team, they will be the most fun group to watch play this year, I think.

[Enzzo]

Sullinger will break all sorts of records for having his inside shots stuffed this season.

Is that the only thing you care about?? He was the best player of the game for the celts

He looked more mobile also which is a relief.

Sully has got to be dannys biggest steal of the draft yet

Couldn't agree more. He really surprised me last night.

[aingeforthree]

Sullinger will break all sorts of records for having his inside shots stuffed this season.

Is that the only thing you care about?? He was the best player of the game for the celts

He looked more mobile also which is a relief.

Sully has got to be dannys biggest steal of the draft yet

You're exactly right.  I saw the mobility as well.  Sullinger has major talent and could easily be an all star next to Rondo within a couple years.  A true double double waiting to happen.

Olynyk has a lot of work to put in but you love the skill set.  He's got the ability to be a good player in the league, & now he just needs to put in the work.  Extremely unselfish which can be good and bad.  I had him passing up about 4 shots yesterday that everybody knows he can make.  He's gotta take his opportunities.  Again, I think this is something he'll learn about himself and his game, but it will take time.

[Tr1boy]

Sullinger will break all sorts of records for having his inside shots stuffed this season.

Is that the only thing you care about?? He was the best player of the game for the celts

He looked more mobile also which is a relief.

Sully has got to be dannys biggest steal of the draft yet

You're exactly right.  I saw the mobility as well.  Sullinger has major talent and could easily be an all star next to Rondo within a couple years.  A true double double waiting to happen.

Olynyk has a lot of work to put in but you love the skill set.  He's got the ability to be a good player in the league, & now he just needs to put in the work.  Extremely unselfish which can be good and bad.  I had him passing up about 4 shots yesterday that everybody knows he can make.  He's gotta take his opportunities.  Again, I think this is something he'll learn about himself and his game, but it will take time.

It might be a long time since ive seen a point pf/c, actually dont even remember the last time even.

If he does other things, gets 5-6 assists a game , we get a chance to win or win and he scores 0 points a game, i could care less. In theory eventually ppl wont guard him as close and he can look for his own buckets. Also his defense in terms of being a big body out there and and constantly moving was great to see.

[LarBrd33]

I like Sully... he's like a more emotionally stable Glen Davis... but if that's your best player, yer gun have a bad time.

[Tr1boy]

I like Sully... he's like a more emotionally stable Glen Davis... but if that's your best player, yer gun have a bad time.

He wasnt even playing his best and scored 14.

I dont think he should shoot the three though.  Same goes for olynyk. Stick to the 15-18 then once consistent try from the 3

[lon3lytoaster]

Sullinger will break all sorts of records for having his inside shots stuffed this season.

Is that the only thing you care about?? He was the best player of the game for the celts

He looked more mobile also which is a relief.

Sully has got to be dannys biggest steal of the draft yet

You're exactly right.  I saw the mobility as well.  Sullinger has major talent and could easily be an all star next to Rondo within a couple years.  A true double double waiting to happen.

Olynyk has a lot of work to put in but you love the skill set.  He's got the ability to be a good player in the league, & now he just needs to put in the work.  Extremely unselfish which can be good and bad.  I had him passing up about 4 shots yesterday that everybody knows he can make.  He's gotta take his opportunities.  Again, I think this is something he'll learn about himself and his game, but it will take time.

It might be a long time since ive seen a point pf/c, actually dont even remember the last time even.

If he does other things, gets 5-6 assists a game , we get a chance to win or win and he scores 0 points a game, i could care less. In theory eventually ppl wont guard him as close and he can look for his own buckets. Also his defense in terms of being a big body out there and and constantly moving was great to see.

I've always considered Lamar Odom more of a PF then a SF, and he played a lot of point PF for the contending Laker teams of recent years. I don't think and I wouldn't really want olynyk playing that Odom type of role. Really liked the instincts I saw from him last night, though. Wish he'd have looked for his shot a little more often, though. In due time, I suppose.

Maybe slightly off topic, but the one thing I took from Brad Stevens was it didn't seem like he discourages younger players from playing their game. So I don't think we'll see Olynyk parked in the corner all game not doing anything like he probably would had done under Doc.

[kozlodoev]

Maybe slightly off topic, but the one thing I took from Brad Stevens was it didn't seem like he discourages younger players from playing their game. So I don't think we'll see Olynyk parked in the corner all game not doing anything like he probably would had done under Doc.

Perhaps I'm being a Debbie Downer again, but this team I watched yesterday had no idea (1) what their best shots are, and (2) how to go about getting them. They ran some sort of an offense and took some sort of shots, but it looked like a glorified pick-up game effort.

Rip all you want on Doc for forcing players into rigid roles, but Doc had a game plan, and Stevens doesn't. At least not so far.

[Enzzo]

Maybe slightly off topic, but the one thing I took from Brad Stevens was it didn't seem like he discourages younger players from playing their game. So I don't think we'll see Olynyk parked in the corner all game not doing anything like he probably would had done under Doc.

Perhaps I'm being a Debbie Downer again, but this team I watched yesterday had no idea (1) what their best shots are, and (2) how to go about getting them. They ran some sort of an offense and took some sort of shots, but it looked like a glorified pick-up game effort.

Rip all you want on Doc for forcing players into rigid roles, but Doc had a game plan, and Stevens doesn't. At least not so far.

It seemed to me that they were taking smart shots, they just weren't connecting with them. But, to be fair I could only watch the first quarter so I'm not sure about the rest of the game.

[kozlodoev]

Maybe slightly off topic, but the one thing I took from Brad Stevens was it didn't seem like he discourages younger players from playing their game. So I don't think we'll see Olynyk parked in the corner all game not doing anything like he probably would had done under Doc.

Perhaps I'm being a Debbie Downer again, but this team I watched yesterday had no idea (1) what their best shots are, and (2) how to go about getting them. They ran some sort of an offense and took some sort of shots, but it looked like a glorified pick-up game effort.

Rip all you want on Doc for forcing players into rigid roles, but Doc had a game plan, and Stevens doesn't. At least not so far.

It seemed to me that they were taking smart shots, they just weren't connecting with them. But, to be fair I could only watch the first quarter so I'm not sure about the rest of the game.

Individually, perhaps they were taking good shots, if this makes any sense. I just don't feel like they have, as a group, a notion of what their best shots are. This may sound counterintuitive, but there is a subtle difference between the two.

For example, while a wide open three-pointer for Courtney Lee is undoubtedly a good shot for him, your Celtics of years past were fully aware that their best shots were a KG fade-away from the right post, a KG spot-up at the elbow, and Pierce mid-range pull-up. So their offence was geared to try to get these first, and if it doesn't work, make sure they're getting a good shot (e.g. said open three-pointer).

This version of the Celtics strikes me as a team that passes the ball around without a clear idea of what they want to run on the offense. Or, in other words, no-one seems to have a clear idea what works.

Perhaps it's preseason, or perhaps it's the fact that it's the first game, and maybe I'm reading too much into it -- but that's what I saw.

[Celtics18]

Maybe slightly off topic, but the one thing I took from Brad Stevens was it didn't seem like he discourages younger players from playing their game. So I don't think we'll see Olynyk parked in the corner all game not doing anything like he probably would had done under Doc.

Perhaps I'm being a Debbie Downer again, but this team I watched yesterday had no idea (1) what their best shots are, and (2) how to go about getting them. They ran some sort of an offense and took some sort of shots, but it looked like a glorified pick-up game effort.

Rip all you want on Doc for forcing players into rigid roles, but Doc had a game plan, and Stevens doesn't. At least not so far.

It seemed to me that they were taking smart shots, they just weren't connecting with them. But, to be fair I could only watch the first quarter so I'm not sure about the rest of the game.

Individually, perhaps they were taking good shots, if this makes any sense. I just don't feel like they have, as a group, a notion of what their best shots are. This may sound counterintuitive, but there is a subtle difference between the two.

For example, while a wide open three-pointer for Courtney Lee is undoubtedly a good shot for him, your Celtics of years past were fully aware that their best shots were a KG fade-away from the right post, a KG spot-up at the elbow, and Pierce mid-range pull-up. So their offence was geared to try to get these first, and if it doesn't work, make sure they're getting a good shot (e.g. said open three-pointer).

This version of the Celtics strikes me as a team that passes the ball around without a clear idea of what they want to run on the offense. Or, in other words, no-one seems to have a clear idea what works.

Perhaps it's preseason, or perhaps it's the fact that it's the first game, and maybe I'm reading too much into it -- but that's what I saw.

Well, sure.  I don't see why we would expect this team to have an idea what it's "best shots" are at this stage.  Everyone is lauding coach Stevens, but he has no idea what he is doing with this team yet.

I believe in him.  He seems like a smart guy, and I think that by opening night, he and his team will have a much better idea of what they are looking for both offensively and defensively. 

[kozlodoev]

Maybe slightly off topic, but the one thing I took from Brad Stevens was it didn't seem like he discourages younger players from playing their game. So I don't think we'll see Olynyk parked in the corner all game not doing anything like he probably would had done under Doc.

Perhaps I'm being a Debbie Downer again, but this team I watched yesterday had no idea (1) what their best shots are, and (2) how to go about getting them. They ran some sort of an offense and took some sort of shots, but it looked like a glorified pick-up game effort.

Rip all you want on Doc for forcing players into rigid roles, but Doc had a game plan, and Stevens doesn't. At least not so far.

It seemed to me that they were taking smart shots, they just weren't connecting with them. But, to be fair I could only watch the first quarter so I'm not sure about the rest of the game.

Individually, perhaps they were taking good shots, if this makes any sense. I just don't feel like they have, as a group, a notion of what their best shots are. This may sound counterintuitive, but there is a subtle difference between the two.

For example, while a wide open three-pointer for Courtney Lee is undoubtedly a good shot for him, your Celtics of years past were fully aware that their best shots were a KG fade-away from the right post, a KG spot-up at the elbow, and Pierce mid-range pull-up. So their offence was geared to try to get these first, and if it doesn't work, make sure they're getting a good shot (e.g. said open three-pointer).

This version of the Celtics strikes me as a team that passes the ball around without a clear idea of what they want to run on the offense. Or, in other words, no-one seems to have a clear idea what works.

Perhaps it's preseason, or perhaps it's the fact that it's the first game, and maybe I'm reading too much into it -- but that's what I saw.

Well, sure.  I don't see why we would expect this team to have an idea what it's "best shots" are at this stage.  Everyone is lauding coach Stevens, but he has no idea what he is doing with this team yet.

I believe in him.  He seems like a smart guy, and I think that by opening night, he and his team will have a much better idea of what they are looking for both offensively and defensively.

Perhaps it was similar in the early Doc Rivers years, but I just figured out I have absolutely no recollection what they were like. I guess I've been spoiled by the three-year plan that lasted five years.

[lon3lytoaster]

Maybe slightly off topic, but the one thing I took from Brad Stevens was it didn't seem like he discourages younger players from playing their game. So I don't think we'll see Olynyk parked in the corner all game not doing anything like he probably would had done under Doc.

Perhaps I'm being a Debbie Downer again, but this team I watched yesterday had no idea (1) what their best shots are, and (2) how to go about getting them. They ran some sort of an offense and took some sort of shots, but it looked like a glorified pick-up game effort.

Rip all you want on Doc for forcing players into rigid roles, but Doc had a game plan, and Stevens doesn't. At least not so far.

It seemed to me that they were taking smart shots, they just weren't connecting with them. But, to be fair I could only watch the first quarter so I'm not sure about the rest of the game.

Individually, perhaps they were taking good shots, if this makes any sense. I just don't feel like they have, as a group, a notion of what their best shots are. This may sound counterintuitive, but there is a subtle difference between the two.

For example, while a wide open three-pointer for Courtney Lee is undoubtedly a good shot for him, your Celtics of years past were fully aware that their best shots were a KG fade-away from the right post, a KG spot-up at the elbow, and Pierce mid-range pull-up. So their offence was geared to try to get these first, and if it doesn't work, make sure they're getting a good shot (e.g. said open three-pointer).

This version of the Celtics strikes me as a team that passes the ball around without a clear idea of what they want to run on the offense. Or, in other words, no-one seems to have a clear idea what works.

Perhaps it's preseason, or perhaps it's the fact that it's the first game, and maybe I'm reading too much into it -- but that's what I saw.

I wouldn't really disagree with you, but with all the major changes and AB being our "go-to" point guard at the moment, I wouldn't expect a much of a complex offense at this point. I'm sure Stevens still has a lot to learn about his personel and a lot to implement.

For now and probably the majority of the season, I'll just be happy with guys playing their games. Especially the young fellas, Sully and Olynyk.