Sullinger domestic violence update

[hpantazo]

I hadn't seen this on the blog yet. It basically states that he's seeing a counselor now and both Sullinger and his girlfriend have asked the legal restrictions on their communication be lifted so that they can work on their relationship.

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2013/09/jared_sullinger_domestic_viole.html

sounds to me they are attempting to reconcile

[celticdog]

Stockholm syndrome. 

[manl_lui]

hope everything will be ok before training camp! If the girlfriend is lifting the restrictions, I believe there's room to improve for them.

[Fafnir]

Stockholm syndrome.

Not really that refers specifically to hostages/prisoners bonding with the captors.

Anyways best not to arm-chair diagnose when we have only the barest details of a single incident.

[Eja117]

Stockholm syndrome.

Not really that refers specifically to hostages/prisoners bonding with the captors.

Anyways best not to arm-chair diagnose when we have only the barest details of a single incident.

Agreed. trying to reserve judgement. If she drops charges, they get help, and she admits she may have been culpable, then it's possible there's a relatively happy ending. I'll be curious if she had marks on her and whatnot. I still think he needs a significant punishment.

[celticdog]

Stockholm syndrome.

Not really that refers specifically to hostages/prisoners bonding with the captors.

Anyways best not to arm-chair diagnose when we have only the barest details of a single incident.

Many abused women stay with their abusers for years. 

I'd like to add that she may suffer from battered woman syndrome and some kind of codependency.

[Roy H.]

Stockholm syndrome.

Not really that refers specifically to hostages/prisoners bonding with the captors.

Anyways best not to arm-chair diagnose when we have only the barest details of a single incident.

Many abused women stay with their abusers for years. 

I'd like to add that she may suffer from battered woman syndrome and some kind of codependency.

She may.  Or, she may be a perfectly rationally minded, forgiving woman who realizes that good people can make bad decisions.  Or, she may be a gold digger.  Or, she may suffer from mental health issues that make her prone to exaggeration and histrionics.

We have absolutely no idea.

[indeedproceed]

Stockholm syndrome.

Not really that refers specifically to hostages/prisoners bonding with the captors.

Anyways best not to arm-chair diagnose when we have only the barest details of a single incident.

Many abused women stay with their abusers for years. 

I'd like to add that she may suffer from battered woman syndrome and some kind of codependency.

She may.  Or, she may be a perfectly rationally minded, forgiving woman who realizes that good people can make bad decisions.  Or, she may be a gold digger.  Or, she may suffer from mental health issues that make her prone to exaggeration and histrionics.

We have absolutely no idea.

I think she suffers from legionnaire's disease and has a lazy eye.

I know she probably doesn't have those things but if we're just throwing out conditions without any kind of base behind it, I want the long-shot ones. Only way to beat the odds.

[celticdog]

Stockholm syndrome.

Not really that refers specifically to hostages/prisoners bonding with the captors.

Anyways best not to arm-chair diagnose when we have only the barest details of a single incident.

Many abused women stay with their abusers for years. 

I'd like to add that she may suffer from battered woman syndrome and some kind of codependency.

She may.  Or, she may be a perfectly rationally minded, forgiving woman who realizes that good people can make bad decisions.  Or, she may be a gold digger.  Or, she may suffer from mental health issues that make her prone to exaggeration and histrionics.

We have absolutely no idea.

Well Roy if we are talking about rationality and statistics we know that most abusive men do not change and that past actions are often the best predictor of future behavior. 

[Fafnir]

Stockholm syndrome.

Not really that refers specifically to hostages/prisoners bonding with the captors.

Anyways best not to arm-chair diagnose when we have only the barest details of a single incident.

Many abused women stay with their abusers for years. 

I'd like to add that she may suffer from battered woman syndrome and some kind of codependency.

She may.  Or, she may be a perfectly rationally minded, forgiving woman who realizes that good people can make bad decisions.  Or, she may be a gold digger.  Or, she may suffer from mental health issues that make her prone to exaggeration and histrionics.

We have absolutely no idea.

Pretty much what I was saying Roy.

celticdog you bring up battered person syndrome and co-dependency those would be the right terms if you're going to wildly speculate, she's clearly not a prisoner or a hostage.

[Fafnir]

Stockholm syndrome.

Not really that refers specifically to hostages/prisoners bonding with the captors.

Anyways best not to arm-chair diagnose when we have only the barest details of a single incident.

Many abused women stay with their abusers for years. 

I'd like to add that she may suffer from battered woman syndrome and some kind of codependency.

She may.  Or, she may be a perfectly rationally minded, forgiving woman who realizes that good people can make bad decisions.  Or, she may be a gold digger.  Or, she may suffer from mental health issues that make her prone to exaggeration and histrionics.

We have absolutely no idea.

Well Roy if we are talking about rationality and statistics we know that most abusive men do not change and that past actions are often the best predictor of future behavior.

Sullinger has been accused of being abusive, that does not mean he is in fact a serial abuser.

[indeedproceed]

Stockholm syndrome.

Not really that refers specifically to hostages/prisoners bonding with the captors.

Anyways best not to arm-chair diagnose when we have only the barest details of a single incident.

Many abused women stay with their abusers for years. 

I'd like to add that she may suffer from battered woman syndrome and some kind of codependency.

She may.  Or, she may be a perfectly rationally minded, forgiving woman who realizes that good people can make bad decisions.  Or, she may be a gold digger.  Or, she may suffer from mental health issues that make her prone to exaggeration and histrionics.

We have absolutely no idea.

Well Roy if we are talking about rationality and statistics we know that most abusive men do not change and that past actions are often the best predictor of future behavior.

This is true in the objective sense when talking about domestic abuse as a whole, but I wonder about the usefulness of that here, talking about Jared Sullinger, in an incident we know nothing about.

[Roy H.]

Stockholm syndrome.

Not really that refers specifically to hostages/prisoners bonding with the captors.

Anyways best not to arm-chair diagnose when we have only the barest details of a single incident.

Many abused women stay with their abusers for years. 

I'd like to add that she may suffer from battered woman syndrome and some kind of codependency.

She may.  Or, she may be a perfectly rationally minded, forgiving woman who realizes that good people can make bad decisions.  Or, she may be a gold digger.  Or, she may suffer from mental health issues that make her prone to exaggeration and histrionics.

We have absolutely no idea.

Well Roy if we are talking about rationality and statistics we know that most abusive men do not change and that past actions are often the best predictor of future behavior.

"Most" doesn't mean "always", though, does it?  You can't take one incident where somebody was allegedly pinned to the bed during an argument and extrapolate it to a situation of long-term, chronic abuse.

There's nothing at all to suggest that this woman has battered woman's syndrome, just like there's nothing to suggest that Sullinger is innocent (well, other than the Constitution).

[celticdog]

Stockholm syndrome.

Not really that refers specifically to hostages/prisoners bonding with the captors.

Anyways best not to arm-chair diagnose when we have only the barest details of a single incident.

Many abused women stay with their abusers for years. 

I'd like to add that she may suffer from battered woman syndrome and some kind of codependency.

She may.  Or, she may be a perfectly rationally minded, forgiving woman who realizes that good people can make bad decisions.  Or, she may be a gold digger.  Or, she may suffer from mental health issues that make her prone to exaggeration and histrionics.

We have absolutely no idea.

Well Roy if we are talking about rationality and statistics we know that most abusive men do not change and that past actions are often the best predictor of future behavior.

"Most" doesn't mean "always", though, does it?  You can't take one incident where somebody was allegedly pinned to the bed during an argument and extrapolate it to a situation of long-term, chronic abuse.

There's nothing at all to suggest that this woman has battered woman's syndrome, just like there's nothing to suggest that Sullinger is innocent (well, other than the Constitution).

I guess she threw herself on the bed marking her chest and forced Sullinger to intimidate a witness and also asked him to destroy her phone.

Lets be real.

[celticdog]

Stockholm syndrome.

Not really that refers specifically to hostages/prisoners bonding with the captors.

Anyways best not to arm-chair diagnose when we have only the barest details of a single incident.

Many abused women stay with their abusers for years. 

I'd like to add that she may suffer from battered woman syndrome and some kind of codependency.

She may.  Or, she may be a perfectly rationally minded, forgiving woman who realizes that good people can make bad decisions.  Or, she may be a gold digger.  Or, she may suffer from mental health issues that make her prone to exaggeration and histrionics.

We have absolutely no idea.

Pretty much what I was saying Roy.

celticdog you bring up battered person syndrome and co-dependency those would be the right terms if you're going to wildly speculate, she's clearly not a prisoner or a hostage.

Actually she was imprisoned under his body which is how she got the red marks on her chest.  Sullinger weighs in at 265 ponds.  She tried to get up several times but could not.  She was packing her bags and trying to leave prior to Sullinger pinning her to the bed.