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Re: Is it just me? Gerald Wallace... everyone else...
« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2013, 01:50:41 PM »

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This is off the nba.com bio page:

Full name is Gerald Jermaine Wallace... Has four children, Daryn, Malliyah, Mya and Kennedy… Has an older brother, Courtney, and a younger sister, Takova, and is the son of Alice Castleberry… Has two community parks in Childersburg dedicated in his name… Provides fireworks for his hometown every Fourth of July… Formed Gerald Wallace Foundation to provide life-changing opportunities for underserved children and their families with a special emphasis on recreational activities… Earned 2000 Naismith and USA Today National High School Player of the Year honors after he averaged 28.7 points, 13.8 rebounds and 3.21 steals… Had his high school jersey retired at Childersburg on March 16, 2002… Played on the 1999-2000 McDonald’s All-America team… Named Alabama's 2000 Mr. Basketball… Nickname is “Crash”... Took 75 children displaced by Hurricane Sandy shopping for their favorite gifts.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/gerald_wallace/bio.html

Wow, he is busy with FOUR kids!!  He sure sounds like a great guy and potentially a superb teammate, huh???

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Yep, could be that he's busy and can't come yet but why hasn't he said one word about being here. He can do 3 phone interviews in 30mins. Even the coach doesn't have anything to say other than he is glad to have him. Stevens looked a little thrown trying to make sure he said the right things but look how calm he is when he talks about everyone else... when they ask about anyone else it's like he lights up when describing them (even when he just had phone convos with RR). I never said he was a bad guy. I love him as a player b/c of his motor. I just find it weird that a player of his caliber and pay doesn't have one word out there.

Yea, I remember he missed the conference b/c of a clinic he was holding but it would have been nice if he made a little statement about being a Celtics.


I can't wait to cheer for Crash, I have no doubt he will give it his all!

I'm sure he'll make some statements when he gets here.  My take is that Crash is the type of guy who likes to stay out of the limelight.  I'm sure this is a somewhat turbulent time for him.  If his initial reaction to getting traded from a team that now looks like it has a good shot at being one of the top teams in the East to a team that many are picking to be one of the worst teams in the league was "man, that sucks!!", I'm glad he has kept that to himself. 

Again, though, I expect him to be a good citizen and teammate when he does arrive.  I know we are all eager for tidbits on the players who play for our favorite team at all times, but I say have patience and have trust in Gerald. 

We'll find out where his head is at by October or November. 
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Re: Is it just me? Gerald Wallace... everyone else...
« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2013, 02:44:37 PM »

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he was always one of my favorite player to watch, undersized, freeky athlete with a no-ball-is-lost attitude  :)
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Re: Is it just me? Gerald Wallace... everyone else...
« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2013, 06:51:24 PM »

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contract $ aside...i will be in shock if gerald wallace isn't a great guy to have on our team
he's a vet right out of the pierce mold and will give it his all and do whatever is needed

expect a "rebound" to his game playing with rondo over williams

Re: Is it just me? Gerald Wallace... everyone else...
« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2013, 08:02:14 PM »

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Wallace has no reason to complain, he will be running with one of the best passers in the league..RONDO....Wallace is a slasher......he hustles.....and hump has some power in him too...he could become a rebounder leader if he goes after it..and if he can finish....rondo will find him too.....so they got traded...big deal.....still getting paid...gotta grow up sometime.....PP and KG got traded......best thing to do...show them they made a mistake trading you.....or prove them RIGHT...!

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« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2013, 10:26:15 PM »

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Re: Is it just me? Gerald Wallace... everyone else...
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2013, 10:46:49 PM »

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A guy who has been a starter for most of his career is now in a role behind a workhorse likely to average 35-37 mpg with seemingly little chance of earning more minutes no matter how well he plays and a contract that makes him unlikely to be shipped to a team that needs him more in the near future.
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Re: Is it just me? Gerald Wallace... everyone else...
« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2013, 10:24:26 AM »

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A guy who has been a starter for most of his career is now in a role behind a workhorse likely to average 35-37 mpg with seemingly little chance of earning more minutes no matter how well he plays and a contract that makes him unlikely to be shipped to a team that needs him more in the near future.

That's probably the best role for him, though.

He started on some stinker teams...Charlotte?  Yet he played well and had the respect of some star players, as I recall, as in best non-allstar player.

Now, he's best as a backup swing F, and if he can show himself to be an impact 6th man, he could raise his value enough to make a contender think about guys like Odom, Posey, and Walker (in Heat's title w/Shaq) and that Wallace might solidify their rotation.

The spot is there to be earned, anyway, and he should like his chances.

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« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2013, 11:45:11 AM »

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A guy who has been a starter for most of his career is now in a role behind a workhorse likely to average 35-37 mpg with seemingly little chance of earning more minutes no matter how well he plays and a contract that makes him unlikely to be shipped to a team that needs him more in the near future.

That's probably the best role for him, though.

He started on some stinker teams...Charlotte?  Yet he played well and had the respect of some star players, as I recall, as in best non-allstar player.

Now, he's best as a backup swing F, and if he can show himself to be an impact 6th man, he could raise his value enough to make a contender think about guys like Odom, Posey, and Walker (in Heat's title w/Shaq) and that Wallace might solidify their rotation.

The spot is there to be earned, anyway, and he should like his chances.

Those Charlotte teams (with S-Jax, Wallace, and Tyson Chandler) weren't all that horrid--they were contending for the last couple spots in the playoffs.

And they crushed the Lakers every time they played, so they get a pass from me. ;D
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« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2013, 10:57:59 PM »

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A guy who has been a starter for most of his career is now in a role behind a workhorse likely to average 35-37 mpg with seemingly little chance of earning more minutes no matter how well he plays and a contract that makes him unlikely to be shipped to a team that needs him more in the near future.

That's probably the best role for him, though.

He started on some stinker teams...Charlotte?  Yet he played well and had the respect of some star players, as I recall, as in best non-allstar player.

Now, he's best as a backup swing F, and if he can show himself to be an impact 6th man, he could raise his value enough to make a contender think about guys like Odom, Posey, and Walker (in Heat's title w/Shaq) and that Wallace might solidify their rotation.

The spot is there to be earned, anyway, and he should like his chances.

Gerald started for a 44 win Charlotte team (3 more wins than our C's this year!!!) that MADE the playoffs and saw GWall average 17.5 points/9 rebounds/ 2.3 assists/ 1.5 blocks/ 1.2 steals versus Dwight Howard's Magic.  His assist/TO ratio was almost 3:1 from a forward.

I will take that!!!!

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« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2013, 11:45:15 PM »

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A guy who has been a starter for most of his career is now in a role behind a workhorse likely to average 35-37 mpg with seemingly little chance of earning more minutes no matter how well he plays and a contract that makes him unlikely to be shipped to a team that needs him more in the near future.

Is Green really a workhorse?  In terms of minutes and games played in a season, he qualified as one in OKC but the other aspect of it is carrying a big load, putting up numbers across the board.  In that regard, he hasn't been a workhorse and whether he'll be one besides in the number of shots next season is to be determined.

If Wallace plays well, he should get enough time at PF where he was at his best in Charlotte.  If it's between Bass and Wallace, I'll take Wallace 100 percent of the time.  Wallace is a better all-around defender, rebounder, passer and scorer.  Bass isn't a key cog of the future so it's not like there is a developmental reason to play him over Wallace.

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« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2013, 02:28:03 AM »

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A guy who has been a starter for most of his career is now in a role behind a workhorse likely to average 35-37 mpg with seemingly little chance of earning more minutes no matter how well he plays and a contract that makes him unlikely to be shipped to a team that needs him more in the near future.

Is Green really a workhorse?  In terms of minutes and games played in a season, he qualified as one in OKC but the other aspect of it is carrying a big load, putting up numbers across the board.  In that regard, he hasn't been a workhorse and whether he'll be one besides in the number of shots next season is to be determined.

If Wallace plays well, he should get enough time at PF where he was at his best in Charlotte.  If it's between Bass and Wallace, I'll take Wallace 100 percent of the time.  Wallace is a better all-around defender, rebounder, passer and scorer.  Bass isn't a key cog of the future so it's not like there is a developmental reason to play him over Wallace.

I would guess Green would be playing 35-37 minutes per game.  The point is, he should be soaking up a lot of minutes at SF so that there won't be that many available for Wallace.  If you think the team's plan is to give Sullinger and Olynyk most of the minutes at PF, then Wallace is looking at a big drop in playing time, no matter how well he plays, on a team that has a reasonable shot at being pretty bad.

He's used to being a starter but may find himself playing less than 20 mpg with no way to earn more playing time.  That is a difficult transition for a lot of players.

I'd also be playing Bass over Wallace at PF because he's the more tradeable player whose value you want to build up to move at the deadline.
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« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2013, 03:55:56 PM »

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Actually, Bass and Wallace off the bench with the second unit would be a decent pair of forwards. For this year, line them up with whomever our backup center will be (Faverini?), SG Brooks, PG Pressey and play them 10+ minutes per half.

Bass and Brooks provide some scoring and Wallace some defense.
A guy who has been a starter for most of his career is now in a role behind a workhorse likely to average 35-37 mpg with seemingly little chance of earning more minutes no matter how well he plays and a contract that makes him unlikely to be shipped to a team that needs him more in the near future.

Is Green really a workhorse?  In terms of minutes and games played in a season, he qualified as one in OKC but the other aspect of it is carrying a big load, putting up numbers across the board.  In that regard, he hasn't been a workhorse and whether he'll be one besides in the number of shots next season is to be determined.

If Wallace plays well, he should get enough time at PF where he was at his best in Charlotte.  If it's between Bass and Wallace, I'll take Wallace 100 percent of the time.  Wallace is a better all-around defender, rebounder, passer and scorer.  Bass isn't a key cog of the future so it's not like there is a developmental reason to play him over Wallace.

I would guess Green would be playing 35-37 minutes per game.  The point is, he should be soaking up a lot of minutes at SF so that there won't be that many available for Wallace.  If you think the team's plan is to give Sullinger and Olynyk most of the minutes at PF, then Wallace is looking at a big drop in playing time, no matter how well he plays, on a team that has a reasonable shot at being pretty bad.

He's used to being a starter but may find himself playing less than 20 mpg with no way to earn more playing time.  That is a difficult transition for a lot of players.

I'd also be playing Bass over Wallace at PF because he's the more tradeable player whose value you want to build up to move at the deadline.
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« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2013, 05:27:49 PM »

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I'd also be playing Bass over Wallace at PF because he's the more tradeable player whose value you want to build up to move at the deadline.

Not sure how you are coming to this conclusion.  It seems possible due to salary but Wallace was traded in March 2012 for the following:

Mehmet Okur
Shawne Williams
Damian Lillard

Bass was traded in Dec 2011 for:

Glen Davis

Neither trade was very long ago so still has some bearing on current player value.  I don't think Bass's stock has risen much but Wallace's has dropped some due to 1 bad year.  He may continue to play poorly or he may revert back to the player he was.

I actually think Wallace will end up being a decent trade chip, assuming he hasn't decided to just check out on the remainder of his contract.

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« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2013, 05:46:21 PM »

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I'd also be playing Bass over Wallace at PF because he's the more tradeable player whose value you want to build up to move at the deadline.

Not sure how you are coming to this conclusion.  It seems possible due to salary but Wallace was traded in March 2012 for the following:

Mehmet Okur
Shawne Williams
Damian Lillard

Bass was traded in Dec 2011 for:

Glen Davis

Neither trade was very long ago so still has some bearing on current player value.  I don't think Bass's stock has risen much but Wallace's has dropped some due to 1 bad year.  He may continue to play poorly or he may revert back to the player he was.

I actually think Wallace will end up being a decent trade chip, assuming he hasn't decided to just check out on the remainder of his contract.

Very simply, Bass has a much more tradeable contract.  Money sometimes trumps talent when it comes to making transactions.

Guys who have contracts that look like BB's get traded mid-season more often than guys who have contracts that look like GW's.
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Re: Is it just me? Gerald Wallace... everyone else...
« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2013, 08:16:59 PM »

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Trade em all. ..... For DMC.......bazz, hump, Wallace, the whole group and Lee.