So who will be our starting Center?

[Tr1boy]

I know people want Bass to be traded, but I see almost no mention of him [so far] as even being a back up. Honestly, if he is still on the team, expect him to get at least 24 minutes a game. You may not like him and you may not think he fits in with a rebuild, but he was a starting pf on a contending team. He is not going to be a 3rd stringer.

I expect him to begin the season starting at PF, then eventually get relegated to a backup role once Sullinger works his way back to 100% and Olynyk earns more time.

I see the depth as
4 - Bass, Sully, Olynyk
5 - Hump, Faverani
In a small lineup Green could see time at the 4 with Bass or Sully at the 5.

can i ask you, how bass will start when Sullinger beat him to the starting lineup last year??

Two words:

Back Surgery

So he is damaged goods now, as well as rondo?

[celticmania]

Our starting 5
Rondo
Bradley
Green
Sullinger
Olynk

[syfy9]

I know people want Bass to be traded, but I see almost no mention of him [so far] as even being a back up. Honestly, if he is still on the team, expect him to get at least 24 minutes a game. You may not like him and you may not think he fits in with a rebuild, but he was a starting pf on a contending team. He is not going to be a 3rd stringer.

I expect him to begin the season starting at PF, then eventually get relegated to a backup role once Sullinger works his way back to 100% and Olynyk earns more time.

I see the depth as
4 - Bass, Sully, Olynyk
5 - Hump, Faverani
In a small lineup Green could see time at the 4 with Bass or Sully at the 5.

can i ask you, how bass will start when Sullinger beat him to the starting lineup last year??

Two words:

Back Surgery

So he is damaged goods now, as well as rondo?

Well, because of the back injury, there will be no guarantee that he can play at the level he played at even before getting hurt.

Bass is also the better defender. He moves his feet much better, is more athletic, and locked Carmelo down in the playoffs.

Bass also has the better jumper and would be a better complement alongside Rondo.

Bass is arguably also a better finisher. Sully won't stay in control and wait for the opportunity to explode up and dunk it if he gets the ball in the paint, something Bass is very adept at doing.

[MISSERY]

I know people want Bass to be traded, but I see almost no mention of him [so far] as even being a back up. Honestly, if he is still on the team, expect him to get at least 24 minutes a game. You may not like him and you may not think he fits in with a rebuild, but he was a starting pf on a contending team. He is not going to be a 3rd stringer.

I expect him to begin the season starting at PF, then eventually get relegated to a backup role once Sullinger works his way back to 100% and Olynyk earns more time.

I see the depth as
4 - Bass, Sully, Olynyk
5 - Hump, Faverani
In a small lineup Green could see time at the 4 with Bass or Sully at the 5.

can i ask you, how bass will start when Sullinger beat him to the starting lineup last year??

Two words:

Back Surgery

So he is damaged goods now, as well as rondo?

Well, because of the back injury, there will be no guarantee that he can play at the level he played at even before getting hurt.

Bass is also the better defender. He moves his feet much better, is more athletic, and locked Carmelo down in the playoffs.

Bass also has the better jumper and would be a better complement alongside Rondo.

Bass is arguably also a better finisher. Sully won't stay in control and wait for the opportunity to explode up and dunk it if he gets the ball in the paint, something Bass is very adept at doing.

the question is will this team make it to the playoffs? how many times will we face the knick or heat in pre-season? ask yourself man... look at k-mart knicks vs celtics, not a defender but great rebounder which help them beat us... i'd stick with a guy who gets us 10rebounds a game and 10 more than points... bass is useless this is not a contender team... houston okc pacers bulls those kind of teams need bass not celtics, i say trade him while he is valuable to a contender team, if i trade him to contender who needs a pf defender i'd do it in a seconds, no more thinking

[syfy9]

I know people want Bass to be traded, but I see almost no mention of him [so far] as even being a back up. Honestly, if he is still on the team, expect him to get at least 24 minutes a game. You may not like him and you may not think he fits in with a rebuild, but he was a starting pf on a contending team. He is not going to be a 3rd stringer.

I expect him to begin the season starting at PF, then eventually get relegated to a backup role once Sullinger works his way back to 100% and Olynyk earns more time.

I see the depth as
4 - Bass, Sully, Olynyk
5 - Hump, Faverani
In a small lineup Green could see time at the 4 with Bass or Sully at the 5.

can i ask you, how bass will start when Sullinger beat him to the starting lineup last year??

Two words:

Back Surgery

So he is damaged goods now, as well as rondo?

Well, because of the back injury, there will be no guarantee that he can play at the level he played at even before getting hurt.

Bass is also the better defender. He moves his feet much better, is more athletic, and locked Carmelo down in the playoffs.

Bass also has the better jumper and would be a better complement alongside Rondo.

Bass is arguably also a better finisher. Sully won't stay in control and wait for the opportunity to explode up and dunk it if he gets the ball in the paint, something Bass is very adept at doing.

the question is will this team make it to the playoffs? how many times will we face the knick or heat in pre-season? ask yourself man... look at k-mart knicks vs celtics, not a defender but great rebounder which help them beat us... i'd stick with a guy who gets us 10rebounds a game and 10 more than points... bass is useless this is not a contender team... houston okc pacers bulls those kind of teams need bass not celtics, i say trade him while he is valuable to a contender team, if i trade him to contender who needs a pf defender i'd do it in a seconds, no more thinking

It's fairly likely that if Bass can lock-down one of the best scorer in the NBA, he can play at the very least decent defense against lesser players.

K-Mart in his prime was one of the best defenders in the game. He loved to always go against the very best players in practice and in games. Even at an old age, he is still pretty good.

Sully is a great rebounder, though, and it is worth pointing out that his per36 numbers were 10.9 and 10.7. That being said, the original question I was answering to was how Bass would beat Sully out of a starting line-up. 

[MISSERY]

I know people want Bass to be traded, but I see almost no mention of him [so far] as even being a back up. Honestly, if he is still on the team, expect him to get at least 24 minutes a game. You may not like him and you may not think he fits in with a rebuild, but he was a starting pf on a contending team. He is not going to be a 3rd stringer.

I expect him to begin the season starting at PF, then eventually get relegated to a backup role once Sullinger works his way back to 100% and Olynyk earns more time.

I see the depth as
4 - Bass, Sully, Olynyk
5 - Hump, Faverani
In a small lineup Green could see time at the 4 with Bass or Sully at the 5.

can i ask you, how bass will start when Sullinger beat him to the starting lineup last year??

Two words:

Back Surgery

So he is damaged goods now, as well as rondo?

Well, because of the back injury, there will be no guarantee that he can play at the level he played at even before getting hurt.

Bass is also the better defender. He moves his feet much better, is more athletic, and locked Carmelo down in the playoffs.

Bass also has the better jumper and would be a better complement alongside Rondo.

Bass is arguably also a better finisher. Sully won't stay in control and wait for the opportunity to explode up and dunk it if he gets the ball in the paint, something Bass is very adept at doing.

the question is will this team make it to the playoffs? how many times will we face the knick or heat in pre-season? ask yourself man... look at k-mart knicks vs celtics, not a defender but great rebounder which help them beat us... i'd stick with a guy who gets us 10rebounds a game and 10 more than points... bass is useless this is not a contender team... houston okc pacers bulls those kind of teams need bass not celtics, i say trade him while he is valuable to a contender team, if i trade him to contender who needs a pf defender i'd do it in a seconds, no more thinking

It's fairly likely that if Bass can lock-down one of the best scorer in the NBA, he can play at the very least decent defense against lesser players.

K-Mart in his prime was one of the best defenders in the game. He loved to always go against the very best players in practice and in games. Even at an old age, he is still pretty good.

Sully is a great rebounder, though, and it is worth pointing out that his per36 numbers were 10.9 and 10.7. That being said, the original question I was answering to was how Bass would beat Sully out of a starting line-up.

SULLY IS BETTER THAN BASS, ALSO HUMPHRIES AND OLYNX, NO CHOICE BUT TO TRADE BASS

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

Another way of phrasing this quesrion is "Is Vitor Faverani good enough to start on an NBA roster?"That is another big unknown on this issue.

[Galeto]

Yes, more Bass guarding small forwards.  I hope he gets designated as the perimeter stopper in order to allow Green to rest.  This will go a long way to helping the Celtics accumulate many lottery balls.

Bass being a staunch perimeter defender is one of the more ridiculous notions I've had the pleasure to come across.

[Tr1boy]

I know people want Bass to be traded, but I see almost no mention of him [so far] as even being a back up. Honestly, if he is still on the team, expect him to get at least 24 minutes a game. You may not like him and you may not think he fits in with a rebuild, but he was a starting pf on a contending team. He is not going to be a 3rd stringer.

I expect him to begin the season starting at PF, then eventually get relegated to a backup role once Sullinger works his way back to 100% and Olynyk earns more time.

I see the depth as
4 - Bass, Sully, Olynyk
5 - Hump, Faverani
In a small lineup Green could see time at the 4 with Bass or Sully at the 5.

can i ask you, how bass will start when Sullinger beat him to the starting lineup last year??

Two words:

Back Surgery

So he is damaged goods now, as well as rondo?

Well, because of the back injury, there will be no guarantee that he can play at the level he played at even before getting hurt.

Bass is also the better defender. He moves his feet much better, is more athletic, and locked Carmelo down in the playoffs.

Bass also has the better jumper and would be a better complement alongside Rondo.

Bass is arguably also a better finisher. Sully won't stay in control and wait for the opportunity to explode up and dunk it if he gets the ball in the paint, something Bass is very adept at doing.

the question is will this team make it to the playoffs? how many times will we face the knick or heat in pre-season? ask yourself man... look at k-mart knicks vs celtics, not a defender but great rebounder which help them beat us... i'd stick with a guy who gets us 10rebounds a game and 10 more than points... bass is useless this is not a contender team... houston okc pacers bulls those kind of teams need bass not celtics, i say trade him while he is valuable to a contender team, if i trade him to contender who needs a pf defender i'd do it in a seconds, no more thinking

It's fairly likely that if Bass can lock-down one of the best scorer in the NBA, he can play at the very least decent defense against lesser players.

K-Mart in his prime was one of the best defenders in the game. He loved to always go against the very best players in practice and in games. Even at an old age, he is still pretty good.

Sully is a great rebounder, though, and it is worth pointing out that his per36 numbers were 10.9 and 10.7. That being said, the original question I was answering to was how Bass would beat Sully out of a starting line-up.

We are talking about front court starting unit here, not a below avg to avg rebounding pf that can also guard bigger sf's.

Can he guard C/pfs?? Can he rebound 7-8 a game at min??

The answer is no. The answer was no last year and thats why sullinger beat him into the starting lineup. Suddenly bc rivers is gone doesn't mean Bass has a chance again (imo highly unlikely).

[Surferdad]

I know people want Bass to be traded, but I see almost no mention of him [so far] as even being a back up. Honestly, if he is still on the team, expect him to get at least 24 minutes a game. You may not like him and you may not think he fits in with a rebuild, but he was a starting pf on a contending team. He is not going to be a 3rd stringer.

I expect him to begin the season starting at PF, then eventually get relegated to a backup role once Sullinger works his way back to 100% and Olynyk earns more time.

I see the depth as
4 - Bass, Sully, Olynyk
5 - Hump, Faverani
In a small lineup Green could see time at the 4 with Bass or Sully at the 5.

can i ask you, how bass will start when Sullinger beat him to the starting lineup last year??

Two words:

Back Surgery

So he is damaged goods now, as well as rondo?

Well, because of the back injury, there will be no guarantee that he can play at the level he played at even before getting hurt.

Bass is also the better defender. He moves his feet much better, is more athletic, and locked Carmelo down in the playoffs.

Bass also has the better jumper and would be a better complement alongside Rondo.

Bass is arguably also a better finisher. Sully won't stay in control and wait for the opportunity to explode up and dunk it if he gets the ball in the paint, something Bass is very adept at doing.

the question is will this team make it to the playoffs? how many times will we face the knick or heat in pre-season? ask yourself man... look at k-mart knicks vs celtics, not a defender but great rebounder which help them beat us... i'd stick with a guy who gets us 10rebounds a game and 10 more than points... bass is useless this is not a contender team... houston okc pacers bulls those kind of teams need bass not celtics, i say trade him while he is valuable to a contender team, if i trade him to contender who needs a pf defender i'd do it in a seconds, no more thinking

It's fairly likely that if Bass can lock-down one of the best scorer in the NBA, he can play at the very least decent defense against lesser players.

K-Mart in his prime was one of the best defenders in the game. He loved to always go against the very best players in practice and in games. Even at an old age, he is still pretty good.

Sully is a great rebounder, though, and it is worth pointing out that his per36 numbers were 10.9 and 10.7. That being said, the original question I was answering to was how Bass would beat Sully out of a starting line-up.

We are talking about front court starting unit here, not a below avg to avg rebounding pf that can also guard bigger sf's.

Can he guard C/pfs?? Can he rebound 7-8 a game at min??

The answer is no. The answer was no last year and thats why sullinger beat him into the starting lineup. Suddenly bc rivers is gone doesn't mean Bass has a chance again (imo highly unlikely).

Look I'm not a huge Bass fan, but the starting job is his.  Sully has to prove that he is fully recovered AND capable of being as good a defender as Bass who has successfully defended LeBron and Anthony.  We a not paying $6mill for the guy to be a backup.

If Sully can win back the starting job, that's a very good thing and we all want that to happen.

Rookie KO is not starting and is not a center. Just be patient folks! 

[D.o.s.]

When did Bass play Lock down defense last year?

I remember Pierce playing some pretty excellent Playoff D on LeBron his last year with the Cavs.

[Tr1boy]

Ability to guard lebron, melo is nice. He can def guard bigger sfs. But if he guards these guys, who is guarding the real pfs? Jeff green?

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I know people want Bass to be traded, but I see almost no mention of him [so far] as even being a back up. Honestly, if he is still on the team, expect him to get at least 24 minutes a game. You may not like him and you may not think he fits in with a rebuild, but he was a starting pf on a contending team. He is not going to be a 3rd stringer.

I expect him to begin the season starting at PF, then eventually get relegated to a backup role once Sullinger works his way back to 100% and Olynyk earns more time.

I see the depth as
4 - Bass, Sully, Olynyk
5 - Hump, Faverani
In a small lineup Green could see time at the 4 with Bass or Sully at the 5.

can i ask you, how bass will start when Sullinger beat him to the starting lineup last year??

Two words:

Back Surgery

So he is damaged goods now, as well as rondo?

Well, because of the back injury, there will be no guarantee that he can play at the level he played at even before getting hurt.

Bass is also the better defender. He moves his feet much better, is more athletic, and locked Carmelo down in the playoffs.

Bass also has the better jumper and would be a better complement alongside Rondo.

Bass is arguably also a better finisher. Sully won't stay in control and wait for the opportunity to explode up and dunk it if he gets the ball in the paint, something Bass is very adept at doing.

the question is will this team make it to the playoffs? how many times will we face the knick or heat in pre-season? ask yourself man... look at k-mart knicks vs celtics, not a defender but great rebounder which help them beat us... i'd stick with a guy who gets us 10rebounds a game and 10 more than points... bass is useless this is not a contender team... houston okc pacers bulls those kind of teams need bass not celtics, i say trade him while he is valuable to a contender team, if i trade him to contender who needs a pf defender i'd do it in a seconds, no more thinking

It's fairly likely that if Bass can lock-down one of the best scorer in the NBA, he can play at the very least decent defense against lesser players.

K-Mart in his prime was one of the best defenders in the game. He loved to always go against the very best players in practice and in games. Even at an old age, he is still pretty good.

Sully is a great rebounder, though, and it is worth pointing out that his per36 numbers were 10.9 and 10.7. That being said, the original question I was answering to was how Bass would beat Sully out of a starting line-up.

We are talking about front court starting unit here, not a below avg to avg rebounding pf that can also guard bigger sf's.

Can he guard C/pfs?? Can he rebound 7-8 a game at min??

The answer is no. The answer was no last year and thats why sullinger beat him into the starting lineup. Suddenly bc rivers is gone doesn't mean Bass has a chance again (imo highly unlikely).

Look I'm not a huge Bass fan, but the starting job is his.  Sully has to prove that he is fully recovered AND capable of being as good a defender as Bass who has successfully defended LeBron and Anthony.  We a not paying $6mill for the guy to be a backup.

If Sully can win back the starting job, that's a very good thing and we all want that to happen.

Rookie KO is not starting and is not a center. Just be patient folks!

I agree with only 2 things you said, Olynyk is not a center and to be patient.

Fact, Bass was going to be paid 6m coming off the bench last season had Sully remained healthy (besides 6m off the bench isn't that much), so we have NO problem paying a bench guy that (Green made 9m coming off last season for MOST of the season). The starting PF spot is not guaranteed to anyone so, the spot is not Bass'. While I think the nod goes to KO for the 4 spot, he may not to begin starting because, right now, Bass is the sure thing as far as being able to play and produce. The starting center position is up for grabs between Sully, Fav, and Hump... I see Sully getting the nod there (I'm not at all concerned about the back), but I wouldn't be surprised if Hump did. How is Bass the better defender? What proof do you have? There is proof that Sully was the better defender last season and he's just a rookie. Yes, Bass has done excellent on both LBJ and Melo but we can easily use Green or Wallace on them and get similar results... also we only see those two 8 times a season and maybe in the playoffs if we make it, you don't just start him b/c of that. I wouldn't be shocked if Bass starts but let's not go saying he is without a doubt.

[chambers]

When did Bass play Lock down defense last year?

I remember Pierce playing some pretty excellent Playoff D on LeBron his last year with the Cavs.

Against Melo. Was unbelievably good at putting him off his shot and keeping him away from the basket.