2013 CB Draft : Draft Thread : VOTING ENDS 8:00PM EST TONIGHT

[rondoallaturca]

The Los Angeles Lakers select Jeremy Lamb.

[sofutomygaha]

I'm up, but I'll give WeMadeIt17/Gomesfan a couple minutes in case they were waiting for rondoallurca

[BigAlTheFuture]

I'm up, but I'll give WeMadeIt17/Gomesfan a couple minutes in case they were waiting for rondoallurca

They missed both their 8th rounders, I don't think they'll be showing up anytime soon, sofu.

[sofutomygaha]

Thanks Al. In that case, even though I desperately need a big, I can't let Pablo Prigioni get past me here. I need shooting and a need a backup point. The guy shot .400 from three last year and rated as one of geekstat's favorite players of 2013.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Very true, I said this before already. This is the only league where depth is overrated. With the way the voters bring up injury history, you have to shore up your reserves. But then they go "oh too many bigs" or "there's only so much your depth can bring you". There's no way out of it, it's so funny.

The difference with your team, Yoki, is that you lack the top-tier talent that Orlando has (Kobe), and you have a lot more injury risks.

There is different types of depth.


What you want are clear starters and bench role players that have shown the ability to step up and play a bigger role in case of emergency.  The team still has the center piece to build around.


vs.


Have a team deep with starters (not able to get all the minutes they should because of the depth) but no center piece that it is built around.

Having their minutes cut doesn't change the impact they bring to the game. Does their skills, instincts and basketball IQ diminish when they play lesser minutes? I don't think so.

There's no bad thing when it comes to deep bench. People would argue that you have to play the starers to bring heavy minutes, especially in the playoffs to maximize their production. That's true, and having great depth doesnt mean you have to sacrifice their minutes for the sake of making sure the guy behind him gets his minutes as well. You dont go "oh your playing magnificent but he needs his 30 minutes a game so you sit down". No, whoever is playing better gets the time, period.

The deep bench part comes in when injuries, foul trouble, sturggles on the court happen. Who wouldn't want a very skilled backup whatever to take away minutes from a starter who is suffering from one of those three factors?

And for the record, since they opened it up, this team has a top tier talent. His name is Damian Lillard. Gee, I don't know, didn't he took over a Portland team on his Rookie year? Isn't Portland ready to contemplate on trading LMA because they have a franchise player in their hands now?

It it a waste of resources. 


It is also a waiting game.  When can the backup bolt to a team that can use him as a starter. 


That's why teams like to try to use their depth to trade for a single star.

I don't see why it's a waste, I think it's a great resource to have in case injuries and game struggle happens. There's no drop off in production once the backup is been called to log in more minutes. Talents don't diminish, regardless of minutes.

And as for waiting, we are trying to win now, we'll do that trade after, we need those backups' talents to coast through the regular season, keep everybody fresh and compete in the playoffs.

CB Draft, where depth is overrated.

[rondoallaturca]

I don't see why it's a waste, I think it's a great resource to have in case injuries and game struggle happens. There's no drop off in production once the backup is been called to log in more minutes. Talents don't diminish, regardless of minutes.

And as for waiting, we are trying to win now, we'll do that trade after, we need those backups' talents to coast through the regular season, keep everybody fresh and compete in the playoffs.

CB Draft, where depth is overrated.

I certainly disagree depth is overrated in CB Draft when depth is one of the biggest reasons people are hyping Cleveland and Orlando right now. Again, in terms of quality talent, you gave up James freaking Harden so that Damian Lillard, a 2nd year player who had a ridiculous workload in his rookie season, is "the man" on your team... with who as the #2? The wildly inconsistent Greg Monroe who hasn't improved a single aspect of his game since entering the league?

[nickagneta]

Yoki, Roy once won a CB Draft with no superstars and awesome depth. It happens.

[nickagneta]

I don't see why it's a waste, I think it's a great resource to have in case injuries and game struggle happens. There's no drop off in production once the backup is been called to log in more minutes. Talents don't diminish, regardless of minutes.

And as for waiting, we are trying to win now, we'll do that trade after, we need those backups' talents to coast through the regular season, keep everybody fresh and compete in the playoffs.

CB Draft, where depth is overrated.

I certainly disagree depth is overrated in CB Draft when depth is one of the biggest reasons people are hyping Cleveland and Orlando right now. Again, in terms of quality talent, you gave up James freaking Harden so that Damian Lillard, a 2nd year player who had a ridiculous workload in his rookie season, is "the man" on your team... with who as the #2? The wildly inconsistent Greg Monroe who hasn't improved a single aspect of his game since entering the league?

But, Yoki, I agree with this. Depth is great to have but you still need a certain level of quality of talent in your starters and I think that's where you are losing people.

[nickagneta]

ROUNDS UPDATE

Very disappointing showing today


ROUND 8   Tuesday August 27      
11:00   1-176   Minnesota Timberwolves   McHales Pit: Glen Davis
11:05   2-177   Indiana Pacers   Rondo2287: Elton Brand
11:10   3-178   Chicago Bulls   ronaldo943: Nate Robinson
11:15   4-179   Denver Nuggets   Yoki_IsTheName Golden State: Brandon Rush
11:20   5-180   Oklahoma City Thunder   The Rondo Show: Mario Chalmers
11:25   6-181   Dallas Mavericks   fitzhickey: Chris Kaman
11:30   7-182   Portland Trailblazers   riah32: Zaza Pachulia
11:35   8-183   Atlanta Hawks   Champkind: Alex Len
11:40   9-184   Philadelphia 76ers   Evantime34: Chris Anderson
11:45   10-185   Brooklyn Nets   sofutomygahaPhiladelphia: Ramon Sessions
11:50   11-186   Los Angeles Clippers   WeMadeIt17/Gomesfan: PICK ANY TIME
11:55   12-187   Los Angeles Lakers   BleedGreen1989/rondoallaturca: Boris Diaw
12:00   13-188   Boston Celtics   wdleehi/Edgar/IP: Corey Brewer
12:05   14-189   Milwaukee Bucks   KGs Knee: Reggie Evans
12:10   15-190   San Antonio Spurs   The Walker Wiggle: Cody Zeller
12:15   16-191   Orlando Magic   foulweatherfan Clippers: PICK ANY TIME
12:20   17-192   Phoenix Suns   TruthFot18: Jared Sullinger
12:25   18-193   Detroit Pistons   Celtic Fan Forever: Otto Porter
12:30   19-194   Cleveland Cavaliers   airbelinelli/AB_Celtic: Caron Butler
12:35   20-195   Memphis Grizzlies   Gainesville Celtic: Jose Juan Barea
12:40   21-196   Golden State Warriors   Kane3387: Reggie Jackson
12:45   22-197   Miami Heat   KCatTheStripe: Darrell Arthur
12:50   23-198   Houston Rockets   BigAltheFutureLakers: Quincy Pondexter
12:55   24-199   New York Knicks   pearljammer10:PICK ANY TIME
1:00   25-200   Washington Wizards   Rebus Rankin: Devin Harris
ROUND 9   Tuesday August 27      
1:45   1-201   Washington Wizards   Rebus Rankin Milwaukee: Jerryd Bayless
1:50   2-202   New York Knicks   pearljammer10 Houston: Jason Terry
1:55   3-203   Houston Rockets   BigAltheFutureDallas: PICK ANY TIME
2:00   4-204   Miami Heat   KCatTheStripe: John Salmons
2:05   5-205   Golden State Warriors   Kane3387: PICK ANY TIME
2:10   6-206   Memphis Grizzlies   Gainesville CelticLakers: Kelly Olynyk
2:15   7-207   Cleveland Cavaliers   airbelinelli/AB_CelticDenverOrlando: Jason Thompson
2:20   8-208   Detroit Pistons   Celtic Fan Forever: PICK ANY TIME
2:25   9-209   Phoenix Suns   TruthFot18: Mike Miller
2:30   10-210   Orlando Magic   foulweatherfanDenver: Marresse Speights
2:35   11-211   San Antonio Spurs   The Walker Wiggle: Luke Ridnour
2:40   12-212   Milwaukee Bucks   KGs Knee: Alonzo Gee
2:45   13-213   Boston Celtics   wdleehi/Edgar/IP: Isaiah Thomas
2:50   14-214   Los Angeles Lakers   BleedGreen1989/rondoallaturca: Jeremy Lamb
2:55   15-215   Los Angeles Clippers   WeMadeIt17/Gomesfan: PICK ANY TIME
3:00   16-216   Brooklyn Nets   sofutomygaha: Pablo Prigioni
3:05   17-217   Philadelphia 76ers   Evantime34: PICK ANY TIME
3:10   18-218   Atlanta Hawks   ChampkindClippers: PICK ANY TIME
3:15   19-219   Portland Trailblazers   riah32
3:20   20-220   Dallas Mavericks   fitzhickey
3:25   21-221   Oklahoma City Thunder   The Rondo Show
3:30   22-222   Denver Nuggets   Yoki_IsTheNameDallas
3:35   23-223   Chicago Bulls   ronaldo943
3:40   24-224   Indiana Pacers   Rondo2287
3:45   25-225   Minnesota Timberwolves   McHales Pit

[Evantime34]

I believe this guy is available but I apologize if he isn't. The 76ers select Earl Clark

[Roy H.]

Yoki, Roy once won a CB Draft with no superstars and awesome depth. It happens.

True, although surrounding an aging Shaq with Rashard Lewis, Manu Ginobili, and Michael Redd would have made for a fun offense, in the imaginary world where they all stayed healthy.

[Kane3387]

With 9.5 GS selects Ben gordon

[Who]

With 9.5 GS selects Ben gordon

I guess playing for the Charlotte Bobcats will do that to you. Nice pickup.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I don't see why it's a waste, I think it's a great resource to have in case injuries and game struggle happens. There's no drop off in production once the backup is been called to log in more minutes. Talents don't diminish, regardless of minutes.

And as for waiting, we are trying to win now, we'll do that trade after, we need those backups' talents to coast through the regular season, keep everybody fresh and compete in the playoffs.

CB Draft, where depth is overrated.

I certainly disagree depth is overrated in CB Draft when depth is one of the biggest reasons people are hyping Cleveland and Orlando right now. Again, in terms of quality talent, you gave up James freaking Harden so that Damian Lillard, a 2nd year player who had a ridiculous workload in his rookie season, is "the man" on your team... with who as the #2? The wildly inconsistent Greg Monroe who hasn't improved a single aspect of his game since entering the league?

James Harden turned into Lillard, Monroe, Bogut, Lowry and Varejao. Deny it all you want, but that's great value for a Superstar who may not have the same group of supporting cast here if I didn't move him.

Also, didn't Kobe had a ridiculous workload? Look what happened. And when he went down, who was their backup and how is he producing? It aint happening here in Denver.  BTW, Lillard USG% is less than Kobe, LeBron, Melo, Kyrie, Harden and his Portland teammate Aldridge. So, there's the ridiculous workload.

And if I agree with you with the workload Lillard has, why do you think he's doing all that. I don't know, maybe because they dont have a bench?

BTW, Greg raises his scoring output every year. Only had 11 single digit scoring games out of 81, averaging 9 rebounds a game, and that's on a down year. Yep, inconsistent.

[riah32]

Well i guess since the guy is still around I'll add him to the squad...Portland Selects Anthony Bennett.

Won't be asked to do a lot, I feel this is the ideal situation for him.

Bomb Squad:

Pg:Jennings, Collison
Sg:Joe Johnson
SF:Deng Bennett or Thompson
PF:Melo, Tristian Thompson
C:Bynum, Zaza