Current-day Celtics as other players

[LilRip]

we, as fans, often overrate/underrate our own players and end up having a bloated or downright crummy outlook for them. So just for fun, i think it'd be neat if we all tried to accurately measure the current players on the roster by using non-Celtics 

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Rules of the game are as follows:

1. the Celtic must be compared to a non-Celtic or at least, someone who didn't spend majority of their career as a Celtic (e.g. Chauncey Billups)
2. comparison can be made to any player across history (e.g. Wilt Chamberlain)
3. no adding or subtracting specific characteristics or traits (e.g. Shaq who can shoot free throws or a motivated Mark Blount)
4. however, using "poor man" or "rich man" is acceptable
5. you can project either the current Celtics' player's projected career or his current day skillset, whatever floats your boat

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i'll start with a few popular players:

1. Avery Bradley - Tony Allen. great team player, unselfish, enjoys playing defense more than offense. I think AB will always be that guy who can provide lockdown perimeter defense, even when he advances in age, and that means he will always deserve a roster spot on any team. He will have flashes where he can contribute offensively but it's only a tease. he's also turnover-prone if you give him too much offensive responsibility.

2. Jeff Green - poor man's Paul George. i see him as a great glue guy on a championship team. Already he can drill threes, he can drive in the paint, he can play defense and he plays great team ball. Just everything about JG screams of someone who does everything right. The only reason i say "poor man" is because i don't see JG ever being the #1 guy like Paul George. However, on a competent team where he's the legit 3rd option, Green will look downright scary.

3. Kelly Olynyk - slightly poor man's Chris Kaman. A big man who will be able to consistently score and make free throws. I think KO will definitely be a pretty serviceable role player and definitely fills a need. Once he bulks up, he can really do some damage. However, i say poor man because like Kaman, i don't see him making much of a defensive impact though he can definitely be serviceable in that area too, by virtue of smarts and size.

4. Marshon Brooks - homeless man's JR smith. i don't think the kid will ever get it. he came into the league with promise, he has a scorer's mentality, but unfortunately, i don't think he'll ever be talented enough to match his ego. like JR smith, he will shoot as a first, second and third option. he'll love to take the 3 and make the big, flashy plays. he won't amount to much defensively. i see him out of the league after his stint with the C's or maybe a year after that.

[bfrombleacher]

Why rule 3?

[LilRip]

Why rule 3?

because imo, i think it will lead to descriptions that won't really hold true for the player anymore. something like "Fab Melo is Jermaine O'Neal without the offense".

The comparison is made because of the belief that like JO, Fab Melo will likely start his career after a few years or even after he's traded to another team, and also because of the belief that Fab Melo will be a topnotch shotblocker and a good rebounder. However, it totally takes away an important aspect of JO in that he was actually one of the main guys on that Pacer team and scored around 20 ppg for multiple seasons.

just my two cents. but if it really can't be done, then i guess it's a rule that can be bent/broken.

[Tr1boy]

1. Ab = bruce bowen
2. Jeff green = clyde drexler
3. Olynyk = brad miller
4. Brooks = homeless man kobe
5. Pressey = brandon knight
6. Sullinger = anthony mason

[Celtics18]

Rondo--J. Kidd
Bradley--Joe Dumars
Green--James Worthy
Sullinger--Kevin Love
Olynyk--Dirk
Fab Melo--Perk
B. Bass--Antonio Davis
Humphries--Otis Thorpe
Courtney Lee--Keith Bogans
Keith Bogans--Courtney Lee
Marshon Brooks--Jamal Crawford
Jordan Crawford--Jamal Crawford
Victor Faverani--Marc Gasol
Gerald Wallace--Bobby Jones
Phil Pressey--Shane Larkin

[JBcat]

Bradley - maybe rich man's Lindsey Hunter
Sullinger- poor man's Kevin Love
Jeff Green- poor man's James Worthy although only some similarities
Still thinking of others

[Tr1boy]

1. Ab = bruce bowen
2. Jeff green = clyde drexler
3. Olynyk = brad miller
4. Brooks = homeless man kobe
5. Pressey = brandon knight
6. Sullinger = anthony mason

Not to be kocky but i think im most accurate so far.

-Olynyk does compare to dirk in some ways but he lacks ability to match his bread and butter which is lethal 3 pt shooting.

- how ppl compare sully to love makee me scratch my head. Again sully cant shoot the ball like love can. Plus love is more mobile

- lastly bradley to dumars? That is wishful thinking. Dumars was an excellent and consistent two way guard. Ab is a terror defensively but not exceptional offensively. But like bowen can make the open mid range/three shot

[Chris]

1. Ab = bruce bowen
2. Jeff green = clyde drexler
3. Olynyk = brad miller
4. Brooks = homeless man kobe
5. Pressey = brandon knight
6. Sullinger = anthony mason

1. I think the fact that Bowen was 3-4 inches taller than Bradley disqualified him.  That makes a HUGE difference.  Bradley really is a PG defender, who can cover smaller SGs well, and can get by on bigger SGs.  Bowen could defend just about any 1-3 at an elite level, and could defend some PFs as well (I believe he was put on Dirk a lot).

2. Eh, I think this is very generous to Green, but I won't kill it too much.  I don't love it though.

3. Brad Miller was one of the most physical guys in the league, and a very good rebounder.  I also am not sure Olynyk has the passing skills Miller had.  I think Olynyk is much closer to someone like Bargnani.

4. I think homeless is generous, but yeah, he definitely patterns his game after Kobe. 

5. From the little I have seen of Pressey, this isn't a terrible call.  I kind of like it.  I think Knight was much more polished, even coming out of college, but Pressey does have a similar game.

6. This is another interesting one.  I think Mason was a better athlete, but I guess there are some comparisons there. 

[JBcat]

1. Ab = bruce bowen
2. Jeff green = clyde drexler
3. Olynyk = brad miller
4. Brooks = homeless man kobe
5. Pressey = brandon knight
6. Sullinger = anthony mason

Not to be kocky but i think im most accurate so far.

-Olynyk does compare to dirk in some ways but he lacks ability to match his bread and butter which is lethal 3 pt shooting.

- how ppl compare sully to love makee me scratch my head. Again sully cant shoot the ball like love can. Plus love is more mobile

- lastly bradley to dumars? That is wishful thinking. Dumars was an excellent and consistent two way guard. Ab is a terror defensively but not exceptional offensively. But like bowen can make the open mid range/three shot

I think the Bowen Bradley comparison is off.  I don't remember Bowen ever guarding point guards.  He mostly guarded 2's and 3's, and Bradley can only get away with guarding some 2's I think.

I always thought of Miller being primarily a center where KO seems more of a 4 more mobile but maybe less physical.

I think Drexler might have had trouble going left like Green but Green is a 3/4, whereas I think Drexler played primarily a SG.

[Tr1boy]

1. Ab = bruce bowen
2. Jeff green = clyde drexler
3. Olynyk = brad miller
4. Brooks = homeless man kobe
5. Pressey = brandon knight
6. Sullinger = anthony mason

Not to be kocky but i think im most accurate so far.

-Olynyk does compare to dirk in some ways but he lacks ability to match his bread and butter which is lethal 3 pt shooting.

- how ppl compare sully to love makee me scratch my head. Again sully cant shoot the ball like love can. Plus love is more mobile

- lastly bradley to dumars? That is wishful thinking. Dumars was an excellent and consistent two way guard. Ab is a terror defensively but not exceptional offensively. But like bowen can make the open mid range/three shot

I think the Bowen Bradley comparison is off.  I don't remember Bowen ever guarding point guards.  He mostly guarded 2's and 3's, and Bradley can only get away with guarding some 2's I think.

I always thought of Miller being primarily a center where KO seems more of a 4 more mobile but maybe less physical.

I think Drexler might have had trouble going left like Green but Green is a 3/4, whereas I think Drexler played primarily a SG.

Bowen and ab are similar bc they play the same game. Harassing Defense and hitting open jump shots. Both mainly guard sg even though each can guard other positions. Btw i have seen bowen guard pgs before. He can do the job if called upon, but parker was usually on the court.

Tony allen compares to ab defensively but his offense is about slashing vs shooting jump shots.

- drexler to me is the best to compare green to. Green is no pf. There is no powering shots in, not alot of physical play underneath the basket. Like clyde he likes to have the ball from the perimeter and and glide in for layups/dunks. Also their defense compare as both are not known for being very good rebounders but were/is good team/ind defenders

- watch some bmiller clips and thats how olynyk can excel in the nba. Miller was a very nice stretch 5 before and had s long career for a reason. He can shoot, pass, high iq, motor and like olynyk had very good handles

[Eja117]

KO = upper middle class Byron Mullens

Fab Melo = lower middle class Acie Earl

Rondo = Derrick Rose

Avery Bradley = Dennis Rodman in a guard's body....maybe Bruce Bowen

Sully = lower middle class Kenneth Farried when healthy

Jeff Green = Rich Man's Ron Artest

[JBcat]

1. Ab = bruce bowen
2. Jeff green = clyde drexler
3. Olynyk = brad miller
4. Brooks = homeless man kobe
5. Pressey = brandon knight
6. Sullinger = anthony mason

Not to be kocky but i think im most accurate so far.

-Olynyk does compare to dirk in some ways but he lacks ability to match his bread and butter which is lethal 3 pt shooting.

- how ppl compare sully to love makee me scratch my head. Again sully cant shoot the ball like love can. Plus love is more mobile

- lastly bradley to dumars? That is wishful thinking. Dumars was an excellent and consistent two way guard. Ab is a terror defensively but not exceptional offensively. But like bowen can make the open mid range/three shot

I think the Bowen Bradley comparison is off.  I don't remember Bowen ever guarding point guards.  He mostly guarded 2's and 3's, and Bradley can only get away with guarding some 2's I think.

I always thought of Miller being primarily a center where KO seems more of a 4 more mobile but maybe less physical.

I think Drexler might have had trouble going left like Green but Green is a 3/4, whereas I think Drexler played primarily a SG.

Bowen and ab are similar bc they play the same game. Harassing Defense and hitting open jump shots. Both mainly guard sg even though each can guard other positions. Btw i have seen bowen guard pgs before. He can do the job if called upon, but parker was usually on the court.

Tony allen compares to ab defensively but his offense is about slashing vs shooting jump shots.

- drexler to me is the best to compare green to. Green is no pf. There is no powering shots in, not alot of physical play underneath the basket. Like clyde he likes to have the ball from the perimeter and and glide in for layups/dunks. Also their defense compare as both are not known for being very good rebounders but were/is good team/ind defenders

- watch some bmiller clips and thats how olynyk can excel in the nba. Miller was a very nice stretch 5 before and had s long career for a reason. He can shoot, pass, high iq, motor and like olynyk had very good handles

We'll just have to disagree.  I think Bowen primarily was a SF and guarded typically the other team's best wing player.  Because of the height difference Bowen could guard at least 3 positions.  I mentioned Lindsey Hunter who was a combo defensive limited offensive guard.  Maybe more suitable for 1st guard off the bench.

We might not like Green at PF but he has played there alot in his career. He may glide a little like Clyde, but Clyde was a much better rebounder and passer.  Clyde once averaged 8 APG in a season. 

I see some traits in KO that Miller had, but at least for now I think Miller was more physical and more of a true center.

[sofutomygaha]

5. Pressey = brandon knight
6. Sullinger = anthony mason

I like the Anthony Mason comparison. Keeping to that era, I think Pressey actually has a lot more in common with Brevin Knight

[sofutomygaha]

KO = upper middle class Byron Mullens

Fab Melo = lower middle class Acie Earl

Rondo = Derrick Rose

Avery Bradley = Dennis Rodman in a guard's body....maybe Bruce Bowen

Sully = lower middle class Kenneth Farried when healthy

Jeff Green = Rich Man's Ron Artest

You lost me after Byron Mullens. Then you skipped town after Acie Earl. Then you dug a spider hole on Dennis Rodman, legally changed your name and gender on Kenneth Faried, and pulled your teeth and filed off your own fingertips on Artest. Now the NSA couldn't find you again, much less me.

[Mazingerz]

1. Rondo - Stockton;
2. Green - Karl Malone;
3. Courtney Lee - Bowen;
4. Sully - Barkley;
5. KO - Dirk;
6. Bradley - Sichting;
7. Faverani - Duckworth ( i really hope my prediction pans out);
8. GWallace - Rodman (no regard for his body while playing);
9. Brooks - a very poor man's Kobe;
10. Humphries - Rodman (looks irritating but gets rebounds);
11. Pressey - Isiah Thomas (the sactown kid);
12. Melo - (Brett Szabo);
13. Bogans - Bowen;
14. Brandon Bass - Anthony Mason (NY Knick);
15. Jordan Crawford - Delonte West;