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Re: OKC Could Use Brandon Bass
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2013, 07:23:55 PM »

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Bass + Shav + Crawford for Perk + PJ3 + the Dallas 2014 pick

Why for the Celtics?
Give Bass the chance to compete and get minutes for KO&Sully
Take a chance on PJ3 as another young trade chip/prospect
The Dallas pick is top 20 protected until 2017, then unprotected in 2018 (we could have 2 lottery picks in 2018)
Taking on Perk's contract is bad, but he's a Celtic and a locker room leader.

Why for OKC?
Get rid of Perk's contract and get the best player in Bass
Take a chance on that crazy kid who can score, Crawford.
Save money from Shav's contract.
Start Bass/Ibaka, then use Collison with either one. Adams is a good prospect and could bring 5-10 minutes of good D, just like Perk.

That leaves the Cs with

Rondo/Bradley/Pressey
Lee/Brooks/Bogans
Green/Crash/PJ3(Red Claws)
Sully/Humphries/
KO/Perk/Faverani/Melo(Red Claws)

It also would mean the Cs need to cut some salary before the trade deadline, moving Humphries, Lee and/or Bogans expiring.



Re: OKC Could Use Brandon Bass
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2013, 08:36:58 PM »

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I'm pretty surprised at the amount of undervaluing of Lee (or overvaluing of Sefolosha) is going on here. I mean, Thabo might be a superior defender, but Lee is no slouch on that end of the floor, either. Offensively though, Lee is far better and it's not even close. I'd rather have Lee than Sefolosha on my team, especially considering Lee only makes a shade over $1M more.

I am just not a fan. Last year, Lee really didn't show much of anything.
Not to mention the Dallas game when he didn't come back in and play, yet some of his teammates criticized him for it.

Bad pickup by DA.

Re: OKC Could Use Brandon Bass
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2013, 08:39:24 PM »

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Why?

Serge Ibaka plays 32 MPG roughly, they don't need to pay a 16 MPG (at most) backup that much money.

Ibaka & Bass have really different skill sets.
Do they? What can Bass do that Ibaka can't? I mean I guess defend Melo/LeBron pretty well for a PF. But that's probably it.

I agree that Ibaka can play C some of the time and probably should play it more and more as he gets older.

Pretty well for a PF? He's arguably the best Lebron/Melo defender in the entire world, at any position. I would definitely argue it so.

I would argue he's not ;D I just think it's time to move on from Bass and Lee. Both guys are role players who I think have been underwhelming. If we could move them for some new decent players, I'd be all for it.

Re: OKC Could Use Brandon Bass
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2013, 08:43:40 PM »

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We could use Bass. I would like to see how he performs under a new coach.

Re: OKC Could Use Brandon Bass
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2013, 08:49:44 PM »

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And the Celtics could use Kevin Durant!!!!

Let's make a deal!!!!

What's that....wife is talking to me hold on....

Wife is calling me an idiot. Never mind.

Re: OKC Could Use Brandon Bass
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2013, 10:09:34 PM »

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Bass + Shav + Crawford for Perk + PJ3 + the Dallas 2014 pick

Why for the Celtics?
Give Bass the chance to compete and get minutes for KO&Sully
Take a chance on PJ3 as another young trade chip/prospect
The Dallas pick is top 20 protected until 2017, then unprotected in 2018 (we could have 2 lottery picks in 2018)
Taking on Perk's contract is bad, but he's a Celtic and a locker room leader.

Why for OKC?
Get rid of Perk's contract and get the best player in Bass
Take a chance on that crazy kid who can score, Crawford.
Save money from Shav's contract.
Start Bass/Ibaka, then use Collison with either one. Adams is a good prospect and could bring 5-10 minutes of good D, just like Perk.

That leaves the Cs with

Rondo/Bradley/Pressey
Lee/Brooks/Bogans
Green/Crash/PJ3(Red Claws)
Sully/Humphries/
KO/Perk/Faverani/Melo(Red Claws)

It also would mean the Cs need to cut some salary before the trade deadline, moving Humphries, Lee and/or Bogans expiring.

I had a very similar idea except it includes Houston. I don't see OKC making any trades that don't include Perkins heading in the opposite direction, but at the same time I can't see them moving Perk without getting a Center in return. The other thing is that Nick Collison is very similar to Bass in terms of playing style. So I think any deal has to include Perkins and Collison heading out of OKC so something like this could work:

BOS out:
Bass, Lee, Crawford, Randolph
BOS in:
Perkins, PJ3, Dallas 2014 pick (protected top 20 until 2018) and a 6.6 TPE

OKC out:
Perkins, Collins, Adams, PJ3 and Dallas pick
OKC in:
Asik, Bass, Lee

HOU out:
Asik
HOU in:
Collins, Adams, Crawford, Randolph

The major issue would be whether Houston would be willing to move Asik to their main competition in the West, but assuming that is a possibility I think it works for everyone.

OKC get a huge upgrade over Perkins with Asik, Bass fills in nicely for Collins and Lee is a solid 3 and D SG to help ease the loss of Martin. They give up a lot, but at the end of the day their roster looks pretty "complete".

HOU get Adams who is perfectly capable of filling in behind Howard, a job Asik was very overqualified for, Collins who should be a cheap/solid compliment to Howard's inside game, plus Crawford a solid spot up shooter for kick outs from Howard and Randolph.

BOS clear up a bit of the logjam currently at PF and fill a need with Perkins. Rondo is happy to have Perk back, but Olynyk also benefits by not needing to take minutes at the 5 and focus on developing as a stretch 4. For our troubles we get PJ3, the Dallas pick and a trade exception.