Would Rondo get the respect he more than deserve after all of these?

[Clench123]

Underpaid, prime of his career, and he's willingly spending it on team that's tanking.  Everybody bailed and he's still here.  Diligent.  Patient. And still loyal (like that's ever a question with Rondo).  We're rebuilding and he's not asking for a trade or making a fuss.  Looking back to how the majority of the Celtics fans treated him this past season in the light of what's happening now, it makes me want to puke.  This guy deserves better, especially from the Celtic's fans

[Yogi]

Him being here is the only connection we have to the 2008 championship.  I hope he is here to carry the torch from Pierce and KG.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

Underpaid, prime of his career, and he's willingly spending it on team that's tanking.  Everybody bailed and he's still here.  Diligent.  Patience. And still loyal (like that's ever a question with Rondo).  We're rebuilding and he's not asking for a trade or making a fuss.  Looking back to how the majority of the Celtics fans treated him this past season in the light of what's happening now, it makes me want to puke.  This guy deserves better, especially from the Celtic's fans

TP

Some folks don't like the way rondo is wired

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5OgmurpgaI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1d2AKn28GM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI7eTHUA8WQ

I LOVE RONDO

[rondoallaturca]

Nope. The media will always paint Rondo the wrong way because he gives them the cold shoulder. As such, the casual fan won't ever fairly judge Rondo.

[bfrombleacher]

Rondo's like a mini KG. I like.

[LilRip]

Underpaid, prime of his career, and he's willingly spending it on team that's tanking.  Everybody bailed and he's still here.  Diligent.  Patience. And still loyal (like that's ever a question with Rondo).  We're rebuilding and he's not asking for a trade or making a fuss.  Looking back to how the majority of the Celtics fans treated him this past season in the light of what's happening now, it makes me want to puke.  This guy deserves better, especially from the Celtic's fans

i don't think Pierce and KG bailed.

[Yakmanev]

I agree. I can't understand all the negativity towards Rondo on this board. He is a rare talent we should all be grateful to have on our team.

I also don't think Pierce and Garnett bailed, but that doesn't change the fact that Rondo is still willing to stay on board with some turbulent waters ahead.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

i don't think Pierce and KG bailed.

I think K.G. most certainly did. Paul did not want to go through a rebuild and said exactly that.He got sent to a contender. I think Paul is in the best situation possible. I also think he was the one guy that stated pretty clearly what he wanted and it sounded reasonable. He went through a rebuild and didn't wanna do it again.

Folks surmise correctly I think that Doc burned too many bridges. The same could be said for Garnett. He went off the grid and contemplated his future despite signing a contract last year that was garunt'd and had a very rare no trade clause.

Read stuff from the people involved as opposed to other posters opinions.

From Danny

“On May 3rd, our season ended [with a first-round playoff exit against the New York Knicks]. And there was some uncertainty as to whether Doc would return to the Celtics or not at that time — I wasn’t aware of it then, but [the media] made me aware of it… I had every reason to believe that he would come back, but coaching is hard, and it’s draining, and what people say at the end of a long season, you don’t take to heart.
“On May 8th, Doc and I had a conversation (day after Stephen A Smith story) about his future and I was curious about which way he was leaning and why… He was uncertain still at that time, but wondered what his options were.
“On May 9th, we sent him a letter saying that we expected him to be our coach, and he was under contract to be our coach for three more years. That was our intention all along and that’s what we hoped he would do. And then in subsequent weeks, conversations started as he still had uncertainty as to what he would do.

Read that quote carefully. So after hearing a roundly slammed ridiculous rumor thru ESPN and Stephen A Smith Danny meets with Doc the NEXT DAY. At that meeting whatever was said...and according to Danny He was uncertain still at that time,..Danny being rightfully floored to hear this via ESPN and not his coach who... needs time to think, still doesn't clarify anything to Danny and hence the notice of contractual performance letter being sent immediately. A letter Doc says he never opened.

http://www.csnne.com/blog/celtics-talk/wyc-indications-are-docs-returning




If K.G. was willing to waive his no trade clause to join Doc then how could it not relate to his relation in the Organization and locker room like it relates to Doc? Bleed Green? Bury me in Green? K.G. made it clear he too would jump off despite never saying that as Paul Pierce said repeatedly. Danny learned of Doc and K.G.'s intentions via the media just like you and I.

Stern blocked his 1st attempt and Danny helped with the 2nd. Nobody pushed K.G. anywhere and it seems like bull for him to suggest anything else.


From Danny

Did it take much to get KG to waive his no-trade clause?

“I don’t know how difficult that was. It didn’t seem like it was too difficult. I think KG and Paul and JET are very excited to be where they are, and I think they were going to do what it took to make that happen.”

[Clench123]

Underpaid, prime of his career, and he's willingly spending it on team that's tanking.  Everybody bailed and he's still here.  Diligent.  Patience. And still loyal (like that's ever a question with Rondo).  We're rebuilding and he's not asking for a trade or making a fuss.  Looking back to how the majority of the Celtics fans treated him this past season in the light of what's happening now, it makes me want to puke.  This guy deserves better, especially from the Celtic's fans

i don't think Pierce and KG bailed.

I love both guys to death but a case can be made for both of them here

[Galeto]

Underpaid, prime of his career, and he's willingly spending it on team that's tanking.  Everybody bailed and he's still here.  Diligent.  Patience. And still loyal (like that's ever a question with Rondo).  We're rebuilding and he's not asking for a trade or making a fuss.  Looking back to how the majority of the Celtics fans treated him this past season in the light of what's happening now, it makes me want to puke.  This guy deserves better, especially from the Celtic's fans

i don't think Pierce and KG bailed.

I love both guys to death but a case can be made for both of them here

So state your case.  Would love to read about it.  I mean, Pierce has said many times that he wanted to retire having only played for the Celtics but yeah, I guess he bailed Ainge traded him.

As far as I know, Ainge told Pierce he was going to trade him after the season, after which Pierce requested if something could be worked out with Brooklyn.  The trading of Pierce led to Doc deciding not to come back, which I don't hold against him at all.  He was here for a long time and if he's attractive to good teams and doesn't have to go through an indeterminate rebuilding period, more power to him.  Both Pierce and Doc leaving then led Garnett to agree to be traded to Brooklyn. 

[Onslaught]

Underpaid, prime of his career, and he's willingly spending it on team that's tanking. 

This team is rebuilding. Not tanking.

[More Banners]

Underpaid, prime of his career, and he's willingly spending it on team that's tanking.  Everybody bailed and he's still here.  Diligent.  Patient. And still loyal (like that's ever a question with Rondo).  We're rebuilding and he's not asking for a trade or making a fuss.  Looking back to how the majority of the Celtics fans treated him this past season in the light of what's happening now, it makes me want to puke.  This guy deserves better, especially from the Celtic's fans

RR probably had a great talk with his agent about all of this.  Who wouldn't, right?

It probably ended up like this:

RR, you're injured, and have never played with anything but HOF talent, not just star talent, but HOFers.  This year, you're coming off of injury with little expectations, and the next year is a contract year.  Relax, do your job, and let me do mine.

Besides, if you can make the cast that Danny puts together look good without the HOFers, it would cement your true value for your next contract, and you'll have as many choices as you want.

Rondo should be pretty chill right about now with the whole thing.

[Sketch5]

i don't think Pierce and KG bailed.

I think K.G. most certainly did. Paul did not want to go through a rebuild and said exactly that.He got sent to a contender. I think Paul is in the best situation possible. I also think he was the one guy that stated pretty clearly what he wanted and it sounded reasonable. He went through a rebuild and didn't wanna do it again.

Folks surmise correctly I think that Doc burned too many bridges. The same could be said for Garnett. He went off the grid and contemplated his future despite signing a contract last year that was garunt'd and had a very rare no trade clause.

Read stuff from the people involved as opposed to other posters opinions.

From Danny

“On May 3rd, our season ended [with a first-round playoff exit against the New York Knicks]. And there was some uncertainty as to whether Doc would return to the Celtics or not at that time — I wasn’t aware of it then, but [the media] made me aware of it… I had every reason to believe that he would come back, but coaching is hard, and it’s draining, and what people say at the end of a long season, you don’t take to heart.
“On May 8th, Doc and I had a conversation (day after Stephen A Smith story) about his future and I was curious about which way he was leaning and why… He was uncertain still at that time, but wondered what his options were.
“On May 9th, we sent him a letter saying that we expected him to be our coach, and he was under contract to be our coach for three more years. That was our intention all along and that’s what we hoped he would do. And then in subsequent weeks, conversations started as he still had uncertainty as to what he would do.

Read that quote carefully. So after hearing a roundly slammed ridiculous rumor thru ESPN and Stephen A Smith Danny meets with Doc the NEXT DAY. At that meeting whatever was said...and according to Danny He was uncertain still at that time,..Danny being rightfully floored to hear this via ESPN and not his coach who... needs time to think, still doesn't clarify anything to Danny and hence the notice of contractual performance letter being sent immediately. A letter Doc says he never opened.

http://www.csnne.com/blog/celtics-talk/wyc-indications-are-docs-returning




If K.G. was willing to waive his no trade clause to join Doc then how could it not relate to his relation in the Organization and locker room like it relates to Doc? Bleed Green? Bury me in Green? K.G. made it clear he too would jump off despite never saying that as Paul Pierce said repeatedly. Danny learned of Doc and K.G.'s intentions via the media just like you and I.

Stern blocked his 1st attempt and Danny helped with the 2nd. Nobody pushed K.G. anywhere and it seems like bull for him to suggest anything else.


From Danny

Did it take much to get KG to waive his no-trade clause?

“I don’t know how difficult that was. It didn’t seem like it was too difficult. I think KG and Paul and JET are very excited to be where they are, and I think they were going to do what it took to make that happen.”

It took PP an hour and a half to talk KG into waiving the clause. Of course it didn't take much on DA's part because PP did all the work.

I think both would have stayed if given the option. But also new it wasn't going anywheres. Kidd approached PP about it, and then PP approached KG to make one last run.

I don't think any one "bailed". Its just DA needed to rebuild the team soon. And KG and PP needed to win soon. And neither were going to happen if they stayed in Boston.

[LilRip]

i don't think Pierce and KG bailed.

I think K.G. most certainly did. Paul did not want to go through a rebuild and said exactly that.He got sent to a contender. I think Paul is in the best situation possible. I also think he was the one guy that stated pretty clearly what he wanted and it sounded reasonable. He went through a rebuild and didn't wanna do it again.

Folks surmise correctly I think that Doc burned too many bridges. The same could be said for Garnett. He went off the grid and contemplated his future despite signing a contract last year that was garunt'd and had a very rare no trade clause.

Read stuff from the people involved as opposed to other posters opinions.

From Danny

“On May 3rd, our season ended [with a first-round playoff exit against the New York Knicks]. And there was some uncertainty as to whether Doc would return to the Celtics or not at that time — I wasn’t aware of it then, but [the media] made me aware of it… I had every reason to believe that he would come back, but coaching is hard, and it’s draining, and what people say at the end of a long season, you don’t take to heart.
“On May 8th, Doc and I had a conversation (day after Stephen A Smith story) about his future and I was curious about which way he was leaning and why… He was uncertain still at that time, but wondered what his options were.
“On May 9th, we sent him a letter saying that we expected him to be our coach, and he was under contract to be our coach for three more years. That was our intention all along and that’s what we hoped he would do. And then in subsequent weeks, conversations started as he still had uncertainty as to what he would do.

Read that quote carefully. So after hearing a roundly slammed ridiculous rumor thru ESPN and Stephen A Smith Danny meets with Doc the NEXT DAY. At that meeting whatever was said...and according to Danny He was uncertain still at that time,..Danny being rightfully floored to hear this via ESPN and not his coach who... needs time to think, still doesn't clarify anything to Danny and hence the notice of contractual performance letter being sent immediately. A letter Doc says he never opened.

http://www.csnne.com/blog/celtics-talk/wyc-indications-are-docs-returning


If K.G. was willing to waive his no trade clause to join Doc then how could it not relate to his relation in the Organization and locker room like it relates to Doc? Bleed Green? Bury me in Green? K.G. made it clear he too would jump off despite never saying that as Paul Pierce said repeatedly. Danny learned of Doc and K.G.'s intentions via the media just like you and I.

Stern blocked his 1st attempt and Danny helped with the 2nd. Nobody pushed K.G. anywhere and it seems like bull for him to suggest anything else.


From Danny

Did it take much to get KG to waive his no-trade clause?

“I don’t know how difficult that was. It didn’t seem like it was too difficult. I think KG and Paul and JET are very excited to be where they are, and I think they were going to do what it took to make that happen.”

it's easy to put words in KG's mouth in the offseason because he pretty much isn't available in the offseason. What's wrong with him going off the grid? He does that every year.

Besides, wasn't the first Clipper deal reported to be Doc+KG+Pierce for DJ+Butler+picks(+filler i might have forgotten)? And did that deal even get to the point where it was known that KG would waive his no-trade clause? Because as far as how the brooklyn trade went down, the deal was first agreed upon by both teams before they went to KG to request to waive his NTC. Anyway, regardless of whether Doc bailed on the C's or not is irrelevant.

my point is, KG didn't go to DA or the media and demanded a trade. He simply accepted the trade that DA set up. Pretty sure that if he wasn't going with Pierce (whom he said was a big reason why he signed the contract in the first place), then he wouldn't have waived his clause. 

Compare that with what happened last year with Ray Allen. That guy blatantly bailed on us. Him leaving hurt the team. There's a reason why many fans hate that he left. Meanwhile, i don't see anyone on this board upset about KG waiving his NTC or calling him a traitor and whatnot.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

It took PP an hour and a half to talk KG into waiving the clause. Of course it didn't take much on DA's part because PP did all the work.

I think both would have stayed if given the option. But also new it wasn't going anywheres. Kidd approached PP about it, and then PP approached KG to make one last run.

I don't think any one "bailed". Its just DA needed to rebuild the team soon. And KG and PP needed to win soon. And neither were going to happen if they stayed in Boston.

I read your opinions so please read the quotes of the players involved. The part I bolded in your comment makes little sense. Makes none actually.

Danny and Wyc have stated clearly that Doc initiated and pursued his departure. They are absolutely clear about that. Paul said clearly on camera to reporters that he was not interested in going through another rebuild. This goes back to at least February. Nobody is on Paul because he ended up doing what he said he wanted to and that's play for a ring. When Danny said he expected Doc and K.G. to be back on May 23 he meant it. Wyc said it in the link in the post you quoted. Danny was not into your rebuilding mode until after this fiasco. You need to put your opinion within context of the known facts.

Danny and Wyc expected Doc and K.G. to be back and it's on record.

Doc...man..read what he said and when he said it and compare it to Danny and Wyc.

K.G., Was going to waive his N.T. to follow Doc
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/6/15/4433754/kevin-garnett-doc-rivers-clippers-celtics-trade-rumors
until Stern intervened. K.G. has never stated otherwise.


Paul has stated all along what he wanted and God bless him for that. I hope he gets a ring and is a G.M. someday like he said he'd like to be.