Why not Crash or Mr. Kardash for Asik?

[Rondo2287]

We probably would have to either give them a first in a Humphries for Asik swap or take on Lin's salary along with Asik and send back another player that could see court time for them right away like Terry or Bass.

With Sullinger and Olynyk I think we have some good young post scoring building blocks, but it would be smart to add a defensive minded big to pair with them and make up for their failings. I think Asik is a perfect compliment to those two.

Lin is a + value, why would they move him for - value on the Celtics.

I think Lin is a very poor fit in the backcourt with Harden.  They would be better to dump his salary on some other team and get a less talented player that is cheaper but a better fit

[Moranis]

We probably would have to either give them a first in a Humphries for Asik swap or take on Lin's salary along with Asik and send back another player that could see court time for them right away like Terry or Bass.

With Sullinger and Olynyk I think we have some good young post scoring building blocks, but it would be smart to add a defensive minded big to pair with them and make up for their failings. I think Asik is a perfect compliment to those two.

Lin is a + value, why would they move him for - value on the Celtics.

I think Lin is a very poor fit in the backcourt with Harden.  They would be better to dump his salary on some other team and get a less talented player that is cheaper but a better fit

They seemed to do well last year playing together.  And again why would a real title contender downgrade talent without picking up real assets in return.

[Rondo2287]

We probably would have to either give them a first in a Humphries for Asik swap or take on Lin's salary along with Asik and send back another player that could see court time for them right away like Terry or Bass.

With Sullinger and Olynyk I think we have some good young post scoring building blocks, but it would be smart to add a defensive minded big to pair with them and make up for their failings. I think Asik is a perfect compliment to those two.

Lin is a + value, why would they move him for - value on the Celtics.

I think Lin is a very poor fit in the backcourt with Harden.  They would be better to dump his salary on some other team and get a less talented player that is cheaper but a better fit

They seemed to do well last year playing together.  And again why would a real title contender downgrade talent without picking up real assets in return.

I think they did alright, but I still think Lin and Harden both need the ball in their hands to be at their best.  Lin would be better playing on another team.  Like Orlando or something. 

I don't think they are a real title contender this year.  I think with a better PG or a better PF they could be. 

[the_Bird]

We probably would have to either give them a first in a Humphries for Asik swap or take on Lin's salary along with Asik and send back another player that could see court time for them right away like Terry or Bass.

With Sullinger and Olynyk I think we have some good young post scoring building blocks, but it would be smart to add a defensive minded big to pair with them and make up for their failings. I think Asik is a perfect compliment to those two.

If it would essentially just take a 1st round pick to add a  fairly young, talented, defensively-minded 5...  well, IMHO that's the reason you acquire those 1st rounders!

I'd love to have Asik; if you can control the glass, you can get Rondo and Jeff Green and Gerald Wallace and AB out on the fastbreak. 

But, with Dwight Howard's recent history of back troubles, they might be inclined to keep Asik around regardless (or at least as for a lot more than salary relief and a draft pick). 

[Evantime34]

We probably would have to either give them a first in a Humphries for Asik swap or take on Lin's salary along with Asik and send back another player that could see court time for them right away like Terry or Bass.

With Sullinger and Olynyk I think we have some good young post scoring building blocks, but it would be smart to add a defensive minded big to pair with them and make up for their failings. I think Asik is a perfect compliment to those two.

If it would essentially just take a 1st round pick to add a  fairly young, talented, defensively-minded 5...  well, IMHO that's the reason you acquire those 1st rounders!

I'd love to have Asik; if you can control the glass, you can get Rondo and Jeff Green and Gerald Wallace and AB out on the fastbreak. 

But, with Dwight Howard's recent history of back troubles, they might be inclined to keep Asik around regardless (or at least as for a lot more than salary relief and a draft pick).

I do agree that the reason we gather first is to move them for a talented player. However, I think Asik is a player you add to put you over the top not a guy that you acquire to build around. I think a better course of action is to roll with what you have now let young players develop then try to use a few firsts to get a real difference maker next year (Kevin Love, Larry Sanders, DeMarcus Cousins)

[the_Bird]

We probably would have to either give them a first in a Humphries for Asik swap or take on Lin's salary along with Asik and send back another player that could see court time for them right away like Terry or Bass.

With Sullinger and Olynyk I think we have some good young post scoring building blocks, but it would be smart to add a defensive minded big to pair with them and make up for their failings. I think Asik is a perfect compliment to those two.

If it would essentially just take a 1st round pick to add a  fairly young, talented, defensively-minded 5...  well, IMHO that's the reason you acquire those 1st rounders!

I'd love to have Asik; if you can control the glass, you can get Rondo and Jeff Green and Gerald Wallace and AB out on the fastbreak. 

But, with Dwight Howard's recent history of back troubles, they might be inclined to keep Asik around regardless (or at least as for a lot more than salary relief and a draft pick).

I do agree that the reason we gather first is to move them for a talented player. However, I think Asik is a player you add to put you over the top not a guy that you acquire to build around. I think a better course of action is to roll with what you have now let young players develop then try to use a few firsts to get a real difference maker next year (Kevin Love, Larry Sanders, DeMarcus Cousins)

See, I disagree.  You've got to start somewhere, and Asik would help.  Plus, he's the kind of guy who WOULD have a lot of value to contending teams down the road; nothing says that he wouldn't be repackaged in a year or two.  A seven-footer who defends and rebounds and doesn't embarrass himself on offense will always have a lot of value; he very easily might be part of a package that would net you the superstar (who I'm assuming will come via trade).

And even if he's not the superstar who gets you over the top...  so what?  He's still a guy who helps you win games.  He's like a rich man's Perk, who was already in Boston, on his second contract (IIRC) when the Ray Allen and KG trades came down, and fit right in to that title squad. 

[jaketwice]

The premise of this thread is shockingly unrealistic. Maybe you'd like it if Kate Upton came to your house and made you a BLT, and put the toothpicks with the little umbrellas in it. ...it ain't gonna happen!

[moiso]

We probably would have to either give them a first in a Humphries for Asik swap or take on Lin's salary along with Asik and send back another player that could see court time for them right away like Terry or Bass.

With Sullinger and Olynyk I think we have some good young post scoring building blocks, but it would be smart to add a defensive minded big to pair with them and make up for their failings. I think Asik is a perfect compliment to those two.

Lin is a + value, why would they move him for - value on the Celtics.

I think Lin is a very poor fit in the backcourt with Harden.  They would be better to dump his salary on some other team and get a less talented player that is cheaper but a better fit

They seemed to do well last year playing together.  And again why would a real title contender downgrade talent without picking up real assets in return.

I think they did alright, but I still think Lin and Harden both need the ball in their hands to be at their best.  Lin would be better playing on another team.  Like Orlando or something. 

I don't think they are a real title contender this year.  I think with a better PG or a better PF they could be.

I agree with you.  Lin hasn't looked very good so far in his career in situations where he has to share the ball.  The same thing happened when Carmelo came back from the injured list a couple years ago- Lin's production plummeted.

[Moranis]

We probably would have to either give them a first in a Humphries for Asik swap or take on Lin's salary along with Asik and send back another player that could see court time for them right away like Terry or Bass.

With Sullinger and Olynyk I think we have some good young post scoring building blocks, but it would be smart to add a defensive minded big to pair with them and make up for their failings. I think Asik is a perfect compliment to those two.

Lin is a + value, why would they move him for - value on the Celtics.

I think Lin is a very poor fit in the backcourt with Harden.  They would be better to dump his salary on some other team and get a less talented player that is cheaper but a better fit

They seemed to do well last year playing together.  And again why would a real title contender downgrade talent without picking up real assets in return.

I think they did alright, but I still think Lin and Harden both need the ball in their hands to be at their best.  Lin would be better playing on another team.  Like Orlando or something. 

I don't think they are a real title contender this year.  I think with a better PG or a better PF they could be.

I agree with you.  Lin hasn't looked very good so far in his career in situations where he has to share the ball.  The same thing happened when Carmelo came back from the injured list a couple years ago- Lin's production plummeted.

Lin improved his outside shooting and was basically at his averages from the field and line.  In 32.2 mpg, he went for 13.4 p, 6.1 a, 3.0 r, 1.6 s, 2.9 t.  That doesn't strike me as someone that can't play with Harden at all.

As for them being a real contender, they went 45-37 last year and added the best center in the game all while keeping their 4 best players (Harden, Parsons, Asik, and Lin).  I don't see how that doesn't make them a real contender.

[Finkelskyhook]

Here's a random thought....Humphries can play and specializes in something our team needs....Rebounding..This team can be competitive with a consistent outlet pass with Rondo, Pressey, Green, Wallace, Olynyk, and Bradley on the break....And Humphries as likely to be on the roster as he is to be traded.

If you're a Celtics fan....The last thing the guy needs is an orchestra of idiots calling him kardashian....

Enough of that garbage will go on on the road. A young team doesn't need their own fans to fuel a media circus at home.

[aporel#18]

Asik is good, but I wouldn't pay him 8M this season and 14M the next when we need minutes to develop our young players. Houston would also want a young player to do this, and I don't think that makes sense.

Morey probably doesn't want to pay him the backloaded year of his contract to backup Howard, so he's probably trying to unload him.

Who would probably want to pay him? a team in need of a defensive center to contend. I think OKC is the perfect destination, hence the 3-way trade proposal here.

This way, Houston gives you a future asset, and OKC gives you 2 assets for eating Perk's contract.

If you trade straight for Asik you have to give assets, and HOU is not taking Wallace unless you give multiple first round picks. If you're trading Humphries for Asik, you're losing your cap flexibility around next Draft. Doesn't make sense, in my opinion.

You won't pay him 8 million this and 14 million next.  You pay 8 million this season and 8 million next season. 

And there is no way Houston does this.  I don't even think if you added a first Houston does this.  Asik is a far better player than Wallace and Humphries and for a real title contender you don't just downgrade without getting quite a few long term assets in the process (and then you still might not).

I was wrong, his contract is for 5.2M next season, and 14.9M the 2014-2015 (via hoopshype), and Lin has the same numbers in his contract. Morey might want to keep them and use their contracts as huge expirings next season, but I think Bass(not Humphries or Wallace) would work out fine with Howard and they'd save some money (6M).

Houston might want to do that three-way trade for the savings and because they would be getting Steven Adams from OKC. But once Adams signed with OKC, this trade could only happen after December 15, so it's less probable.

In any case, the team wanting Asik will have to add assets. Humphries or Wallace would require even more assets, and I don't think it's worth it.