Would you trade Sullinger to Detroit for Monroe or Drummond?

[rondoallaturca]

There's no way the C's get either without giving up Rondo. Our only other attractive assets are draft picks and Humphries's expiring, and as a team that is just starting to mold into a playoff contender, neither picks or an expiring contract can be too useful for them.

[kozlodoev]

There's no way the C's get either without giving up Rondo. Our only other attractive assets are draft picks and Humphries's expiring, and as a team that is just starting to mold into a playoff contender, neither picks or an expiring contract can be too useful for them.

Rondo and Sullinger for Knight and Drummond, where do I sign up?

[EDWARDO]

I love Sully.

But if you think he could get us either of these guys you are seriously divorced from reality.

Again, if we offered Rondo, Sully and a pick DETROIT SAYS NO!!!!!

[Kane3387]

I think I prefer Monroe

[kozlodoev]

I love Sully.

But if you think he could get us either of these guys you are seriously divorced from reality.

Again, if we offered Rondo, Sully and a pick DETROIT SAYS NO!!!!!

Perhaps, but you'd wonder what they'll do with Smith, Drummond, _and_ Monroe.

[EJPLAYA]

I do this trade in a heartbeat. Works in the Trade Machine.

Boston gets :
Villanueva (expiring)
Knight
Drummond
Detroit 2014 first rounder

Detroit gets :

Rondo
Fab Melo

[EDWARDO]

I do this trade in a heartbeat. Works in the Trade Machine.

Boston gets :
Villanueva (expiring)
Knight
Drummond
Detroit 2014 first rounder

Detroit gets :

Rondo
Fab Melo

Dumars laughs in our face. Try floating this on a Pistons board. I dare you.

Post the results here.

[LooseCannon]

I love Sully.

But if you think he could get us either of these guys you are seriously divorced from reality.

Again, if we offered Rondo, Sully and a pick DETROIT SAYS NO!!!!!

Imagine that Sullinger is averaging 16 points and 10 rebounds per game through January, while it becomes clear that you cannot put Drummond and Monroe on the floor together at the same time.  That's the key if in my scenario.  If they can play the two of them together, then there's no chance of a trade, but if they look a bad fit because you can't play two bigs who are worthless away from the basket on offense, then Detroit has to explore trade options.  (My scenario also assumes that Olynyk looks like a future starting power forward, not a guy who can't start due to poor rebounding and defense.)

Detroit would certainly consider shopping one of them for another player.  If the Celtics offer is Sullinger and a future first, would other teams easily beat that offer or would it be competitive?

You also have to consider that Monroe will be a restricted free agent after this season.  Will the Pistons give Monroe a huge contract or match an offer sheet if they think Drummond will be the eventual starter at center?

The Celtics will actually be able to manufacture cap space in the summer of 2014 to sign a max guy, so maybe they can offer to overpay Monroe with a contract the Pistons won't match.  The threat of a team being able to do that has to weigh on the minds of the Detroit front office.

[bfrombleacher]

I do this trade in a heartbeat. Works in the Trade Machine.

Boston gets :
Villanueva (expiring)
Knight
Drummond
Detroit 2014 first rounder

Detroit gets :

Rondo
Fab Melo

Dumars laughs in our face. Try floating this on a Pistons board. I dare you.

Post the results here.

What do the opinions of the members of a Pistons forum matter?

[EDWARDO]

Because they have a better sense of the value of those players.  What you should really be asking is why Celticsbloggers' opinion of Pistons players matter?   Because they are incredibly divorced from reality if you think Sully would get us Drummond.

[LooseCannon]

Because they are incredibly divorced from reality if you think Sully would get us Drummond.

You seem to be under the impression that I started this thread because I thought the trade was doable.  My intention was to probe posters to get a sense of how untouchable they think Sullinger is.  I honestly expected more people to say no or that they would trade Sullinger for either Monroe or Drummond but not the other because they only like one of those players.

[Celtics18]

I see where LooseCannon is coming from.  A Sullinger for either Drummond or Monroe deal by this year's trade deadline seems overly optimistic, but I do think Sully is going to end up being a valuable trade chip for us in the not too distant future.  We have two (as of now) promising young power forward prospects.  If they both develop the way that we hope they will, one of them will more than likely get moved for a player that fits better.  I love Sully, but I could see him being, in essence, our next Al Jefferson. 

[Galeto]

Because they are incredibly divorced from reality if you think Sully would get us Drummond.

You seem to be under the impression that I started this thread because I thought the trade was doable.  My intention was to probe posters to get a sense of how untouchable they think Sullinger is.  I honestly expected more people to say no or that they would trade Sullinger for either Monroe or Drummond but not the other because they only like one of those players.

So you're rationale for floating a ridiculous idea was simply to get people's opinions on Sullinger?  Seems to me you could have simply asked directly.  It also seems to me based on how you've defended your premise that you weren't simply asking about Sullinger but really took this trade seriously.

Really, stuff like this is embarrassing and it reflects badly on Celtics fan and this board.  If I was a fan of another team and stumbled upon this board and read stuff like this, I'd feel very smug.

[bfrombleacher]

Because they are incredibly divorced from reality if you think Sully would get us Drummond.

You seem to be under the impression that I started this thread because I thought the trade was doable.  My intention was to probe posters to get a sense of how untouchable they think Sullinger is.  I honestly expected more people to say no or that they would trade Sullinger for either Monroe or Drummond but not the other because they only like one of those players.

So you're rationale for floating a ridiculous idea was simply to get people's opinions on Sullinger?  Seems to me you could have simply asked directly.  It also seems to me based on how you've defended your premise that you weren't simply asking about Sullinger but really took this trade seriously.

Really, stuff like this is embarrassing and it reflects badly on Celtics fan and this board.  If I was a fan of another team and stumbled upon this board and read stuff like this, I'd feel very smug.

What!? lol

It's just a forum online. Far worse things have been said and will be said on the interwebs.

Plus, I wouldn't worry about that. Nobody but Celts fans are going on Celtic websites now. Plus, with obnoxious, rabid Heat bandwagoners running loose and their insane homerism, this (perhaps somewhat badly phrased) thread seriously pales in comparison.

By the time the Celts become relevant again (a year, two? Three? Four?) this thread would have long disappeared.

Relax everyone and have fun! It's a fan site for crying out loud!

[Celtics18]

Because they are incredibly divorced from reality if you think Sully would get us Drummond.

You seem to be under the impression that I started this thread because I thought the trade was doable.  My intention was to probe posters to get a sense of how untouchable they think Sullinger is.  I honestly expected more people to say no or that they would trade Sullinger for either Monroe or Drummond but not the other because they only like one of those players.

So you're rationale for floating a ridiculous idea was simply to get people's opinions on Sullinger?  Seems to me you could have simply asked directly.  It also seems to me based on how you've defended your premise that you weren't simply asking about Sullinger but really took this trade seriously.

Really, stuff like this is embarrassing and it reflects badly on Celtics fan and this board.  If I was a fan of another team and stumbled upon this board and read stuff like this, I'd feel very smug.

Oh, get over yourself, for goodness' sake.  It's not that ridiculous.  I think there can be reasonable hope that Jared
Sullinger continues to develop at the pace he developed at during his rookie season.  Everyone seems to agree that he's a smart, hungry, hard worker. 

I seem to remember a lot of posters thinking that he could be a 15/10 guy within a couple of seasons.  That doesn't actually seem that unrealistic to me.  That's what Greg Monroe is. 

And while I know Andre Drummond is the next Dwight Howard, he's still awfully raw, and the jury is still out to an extent. 

I don't see a trade of Sully for either of Detroit's young bigs happening this season either, but to mock it so blatantly is completely out of line.  And, I think it actually shows a misunderstanding on your part of what the OP was getting at.