Blakely: C's look to deal Wallace & Humphries

[BleedGreen1989]

Wallace should stay together with Bogans. I do not see a reason to trade Wallace

I see 30 million reasons to move Wallace.

[JHTruth]

Humphries is probably move able. But I doubt Wallace is going anywhere.

I agree. But Wallace use to be good. Even though moving him would be better, keeping him is that bad either. We have to put out something this season.

We have to put out something but we also need to shoot for the lottery in our situation. Guys like these two bums will give us an extra 7-8 wins a year taking us from around a 20 win team to around a 30 win team.
That's the difference between a top 3 and top 12 pick.

Yes, because watching a 20 win team next season will be very enjoyable

I'd like to keep both guys. Wallace is a very good defender and Humphries can rebound.

Being terrible next year is kind of the point. And cap flexibility is crucial the next couple of years. Besides Wallace is redundant with Jeff Green on the team and Hump is a stiff. They're not going to get this team to the PO's.

Dump 'em..

[Celtics18]

I think Humphries makes much more sense to be moved.  The fact that he is on an expiring contract could make him more valuable to someone.  Also, we simply have way too many power forwards who should be getting minutes on this roster. 

Wallace looks harder to move, and he also fills more of a need for this club.

 

[dreamgreen]

Trading Wallace is the goal, how DA does it is a HUGE question. Bass should be moved before Humphries.

Wallace, Bass and Lee all need new homes ASAP.

[EDWARDO]

Wallace should stay together with Bogans. I do not see a reason to trade Wallace

I see 30 million reasons to move Wallace.

If someone offered to take Wallace AND take a few second round picks off us for NOTHING, we would bite their hands off. He's not an asset, he's a liability. You are paying 10mm/year for a guy who can't stay remotely healthy and will not figure in our next title team. I liked him as a player a few years ago, and it would have been great to have him in his prime, but he's the worst thing on our roster by a mile. If we could amnesty him, we would. If we could give him away and even if we had to bundle picks along with him, we would. He's on the books for 3yrs/30mm and is worth a fraction of that. If we were a contender, he'd be the lodestone weighing us down. We aren't for now, so its not that big a deal, but they would LOVE to dump him. If you don't get that, then you don't understand how this game works.

[eugen]

Wallace should stay together with Bogans. I do not see a reason to trade Wallace

I see 30 million reasons to move Wallace.

Show us some reason than...

[esel1000]

Wallace should stay together with Bogans. I do not see a reason to trade Wallace

I see 30 million reasons to move Wallace.

Show us some reason than...

Wow you completely missed that... He's saying his 30m contract his a GREAT reason to move him

[Evantime34]

I assume that Danny has been trying to deal those two since the trade was agreed to at the start of July, that he is still looking does not bode well.

I think we might be able to deal Humphries since he is an expiring but why not just keep him, let him expire then use the cap space.

Wallace is signed for 3 more years at 10 mm per, (30 MM total), with how he played last year we probably would need to include an asset to get a team to exchange Wallace for an expiring. I think we probably will just keep him.

I think it is the wrong move but I wouldn't be shocked if after being unable to trade Crash they just stretched his contract.

[Evantime34]

Wallace should stay together with Bogans. I do not see a reason to trade Wallace

I see 30 million reasons to move Wallace.

Show us some reason than...

Wow you completely missed that... He's saying his 30m contract his a GREAT reason to move him

He didn't misread it, he's a troll that likes to cause arguments where there shouldn't be.

[danglertx]

The goal should be to move Bass and Lee.  No point for either of them sticking around for a rebuild and both have money tied up for a couple years.

Crawford, Humphries, Bogans, and Brooks can all expire after the season, or get waived in Bogan's case, and free up $20mil off our cap.  If we can move Bass and Lee and not take back a lot of salary or get expirings that could be another $10mil or more. 

That gives us a lot of flexibility with a lot of picks starting next year. 

[chambers]

Humphries is probably move able. But I doubt Wallace is going anywhere.

I agree. But Wallace use to be good. Even though moving him would be better, keeping him is that bad either. We have to put out something this season.

We have to put out something but we also need to shoot for the lottery in our situation. Guys like these two bums will give us an extra 7-8 wins a year taking us from around a 20 win team to around a 30 win team.
That's the difference between a top 3 and top 12 pick.

Yes, because watching a 20 win team next season will be very enjoyable

I'd like to keep both guys. Wallace is a very good defender and Humphries can rebound.

It won't be fun, but would you rather watch a 20 win season for one season with the chance to get a franchise player...Or would you rather watch a 30 win team for the next 2 seasons and then have Rondo walk without much other than a few top 15 picks on top of Olynyk+Sully+Green+Bradley.

Suffer for a season or two to solidify the future. Not guaranteed via the draft but not any free agents in next 2 seasons that can make us a contender.
There are plenty of potential franchise players via the draft though.

Suffer short term or be miserable and mediocre long term?
Seems like our only options :S

[Alleyoopster]

Can Danny trade any of the Nets players?  I thought I read on one of these threads that they can't be traded until December? 

[hwangjini_1]

putting aside the obvious point that blakely is being obvious...

i do believe wallace and humphries contracts can be moved. it is only questions of when and for what.

partner might include atlanta.  even after paying for korver and even if they match milwaukee's offer sheet for teague (which i think they will) they have only 9 players under contract and must still add somewhere around $20,000,000 in salary to meet the new minimum salary requirement - which is a tad over $52,000,000 now.

other teams that are looking to add some sort of salary to meet the minimum salary requirement are the sixers ( again, only 9 players under contract and after trading Jrue holiday for noel. they are sitting at about $40,000,000 now i think).

cleveland may be a good partner as well. they, again, have only 9 players under contract and have only $30,000,000 and change in current salaries. i am sure there are a few other teams as well
 
honestly, i have no idea what ainge can get for either of wallace or humphires. maybe just second round picks. but i think ainge can move at least one, and maybe both, soon.

[PhoSita]

The only way we're moving Wallace if he's the price that another team has to pay in order to get a couple of our prospects or Rondo or a combination thereof.

[The Playmaker]

Yeah this is all pretty obvious, however it makes for great discussion.  The main goal for Danny right now is to move Wallace for guys without a long term contract.  I doubt we could get a valuable pick for him so just trading him for an expiring is okay with me.  We just need to clear that cap space.  Humphries I would like to get rid of not only because I don't like the guy but also we have 2 1st round draft picks at his position as well.  Right now we have 4 total PF's that all need playing time if you include Bass.  Even though he's an expiring I'd still like to move him.

As far as the guys I would like to move who were on the team last year then I guess it would be Bass.  I'm a little biased towards Courtney Lee and would like to see him with Stevens but I'm about done with Bass.  Give his minutes to Sully and Oly and whomever else we'll have in the front court.