Come to Boston, Greg!!

[BleedGreen1989]

I'd love to take a chance but I wouldn't guarantee him anything past this season. If that's a deal breaker, so be it.

[CelticSooner]

Oden coming to Boston makes too much sense for both sides.

The C's need a center and Oden needs a team willing to wait on him. Get him for cheap and see if he can rebound from all the injuries.

[BASS_THUMPER]

his drama with injury started from the sixth grade?

In sixth grade, Oden underwent surgery to repair his hip. Following the surgery, one leg was then longer than the other, resulting in his unusual gait which is often misstaken for a limp.

    His senior year of high school, Oden underwent surgery to repair a torn ligament in his wrist , an injury that kept him out until December for his freshman year of college, after which he helped push his team to the NCAA Championship Game, only to fall short.

    On September 13th, 2007, during preseason before his rookie season, he underwent microfracture surgery to repair his right knee. He would miss the entire 2007-2008 season.

    Oden managed to return from his first microfracture surgery only to have Andrew  Bynum land on his foot on October 28th, 2008, injuring it . He would miss only two weeks, though.

    Then on February 13th, 2009, he bumped knees with Corey Maggette and chipped his left patella . It was the first injury sustained to his left knee and he missed three weeks due to it.

    He recovered from that and 2009-2010 was set to be his year. He was looking very much like finally the player he was supposed to be. Then on December 5th, 2009, he landed without contact on his left leg, and badly fractured his left patella . His recovery was projected to take him right up until training camp of 2010.

    After missing training camp, preseason, and the start of the regular season , and after saying he wouldn't return until he was 100% healthy but that he could still be an impact player and that he was not a bust, it was announced on November 17th, 2010 that Oden would undergo microfracture surgery on his left knee and would miss the entire 2010-2011 season.

 

[BASS_THUMPER]

NO Thanks Brotha

[gpap]

I'd love to give him a shot, but he probably goes to Miami.

Shocker

[CelticSooner]

I'd love to give him a shot, but he probably goes to Miami.

Shocker

I think that would be a a mistake. Too much pressure for him there considering Miami is going for the 3peat. 

[syfy9]

I'd love to give him a shot, but he probably goes to Miami.

Shocker

I think that would be a a mistake. Too much pressure for him there considering Miami is going for the 3peat.

Well it's high reward no risk for Miami.

That fact alone should be why we pick him up - so Miami doesn't.

[lightspeed5]

i honestly think we tried to keep ray just so miami cant get him

also i believe we drafted fab melo because the heat wanted him.

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

When I saw the thread title I thought to myself Greg Stiemsma's already taken.

[vjcsmoke]

his drama with injury started from the sixth grade?

In sixth grade, Oden underwent surgery to repair his hip. Following the surgery, one leg was then longer than the other, resulting in his unusual gait which is often misstaken for a limp.

    His senior year of high school, Oden underwent surgery to repair a torn ligament in his wrist , an injury that kept him out until December for his freshman year of college, after which he helped push his team to the NCAA Championship Game, only to fall short.

    On September 13th, 2007, during preseason before his rookie season, he underwent microfracture surgery to repair his right knee. He would miss the entire 2007-2008 season.

    Oden managed to return from his first microfracture surgery only to have Andrew  Bynum land on his foot on October 28th, 2008, injuring it . He would miss only two weeks, though.

    Then on February 13th, 2009, he bumped knees with Corey Maggette and chipped his left patella . It was the first injury sustained to his left knee and he missed three weeks due to it.

    He recovered from that and 2009-2010 was set to be his year. He was looking very much like finally the player he was supposed to be. Then on December 5th, 2009, he landed without contact on his left leg, and badly fractured his left patella . His recovery was projected to take him right up until training camp of 2010.

    After missing training camp, preseason, and the start of the regular season , and after saying he wouldn't return until he was 100% healthy but that he could still be an impact player and that he was not a bust, it was announced on November 17th, 2010 that Oden would undergo microfracture surgery on his left knee and would miss the entire 2010-2011 season.

Yes, how quickly people forget.  I think this is mainly just wishful thinking.  There are lots of contending teams that can offer more attractive landing spots for Oden. 

And even if that team does land Oden, chances are he goes back to the injured list ASAP.  Wasting the team's money and dashing fans hopes.  Well what did you expect?  Oden's entire career reads like a medical chart of injuries and mishaps.

[BudweiserCeltic]

his drama with injury started from the sixth grade?

In sixth grade, Oden underwent surgery to repair his hip. Following the surgery, one leg was then longer than the other, resulting in his unusual gait which is often misstaken for a limp.

    His senior year of high school, Oden underwent surgery to repair a torn ligament in his wrist , an injury that kept him out until December for his freshman year of college, after which he helped push his team to the NCAA Championship Game, only to fall short.

    On September 13th, 2007, during preseason before his rookie season, he underwent microfracture surgery to repair his right knee. He would miss the entire 2007-2008 season.

    Oden managed to return from his first microfracture surgery only to have Andrew  Bynum land on his foot on October 28th, 2008, injuring it . He would miss only two weeks, though.

    Then on February 13th, 2009, he bumped knees with Corey Maggette and chipped his left patella . It was the first injury sustained to his left knee and he missed three weeks due to it.

    He recovered from that and 2009-2010 was set to be his year. He was looking very much like finally the player he was supposed to be. Then on December 5th, 2009, he landed without contact on his left leg, and badly fractured his left patella . His recovery was projected to take him right up until training camp of 2010.

    After missing training camp, preseason, and the start of the regular season , and after saying he wouldn't return until he was 100% healthy but that he could still be an impact player and that he was not a bust, it was announced on November 17th, 2010 that Oden would undergo microfracture surgery on his left knee and would miss the entire 2010-2011 season.

Yes, how quickly people forget.  I think this is mainly just wishful thinking.  There are lots of contending teams that can offer more attractive landing spots for Oden. 

And even if that team does land Oden, chances are he goes back to the injured list ASAP.  Wasting the team's money and dashing fans hopes.  Well what did you expect?  Oden's entire career reads like a medical chart of injuries and mishaps.

It's Monopoly money, who cares? If he affected our cap room, then sure, but "wasting money" is and should be the least of our concerns.

[dark_lord]

come to boston greg....for a visit, dont stay


why would we want to waste our time and $ on the guy, when he will get injured.  at least with a contending team, the risk makes some sense on some level.  but while rebuilding, naw

[moiso]

all in. greg did the right thing taking a full season off to FULLY heal up. the right environment and a team with good management (nix Bobcats) is the best situation. joining forces with the likes of rondo, green, avery, sully, olynyk and Lee is the way to go. he will be one of the guys on an even playing field, not a two bit hired gun for the Heat or Spurs or something.

Yeah, he took off more than a year... but he's still not fully healed.

[moiso]

come to boston greg....for a visit, dont stay


why would we want to waste our time and $ on the guy, when he will get injured.  at least with a contending team, the risk makes some sense on some level.  but while rebuilding, naw

I agree with you.  A contending team could get lucky and have him contribute for a year or so.  He's pointless for a rebuilding team because he's not going to suddenly become a long term healthy guy.

[Surferdad]

I think Oden is one of the few players that it would make sense to invest in at this point with some or all of the MLE (although I would really push for the second year at a team option), for 2 reasons. 

First, it is low risk, high reward.  As long as Danny can get them below the luxury tax (which I feel confident he can do.  Someone would take on a guy like Lee, if he wants to just dump him, or something like that).  So the only real risk would be of Wyc's money...and I think a lot of that can be made up through marketing a guy like Oden (more like that coming up).

On the court, there is really no risk.  If he stinks, or is hurt, then they are just right where they are right now, and in position to possibly tank. 

But, if he ends up being healthy, and playing well, suddenly you have created a new asset out of thin air, to either build around, or try to get value for.  And if he plays really well, suddenly this team could be a really interesting team in the East, assuming Rondo is healthy.

But the second reason is the key one to me.  He is the type of player that can turn what could be a boring, mediocre (or tanking) team into an exciting team with a reason to watch.  The C's really are lacking exciting young players that draw in fans (maybe Olynyk, but we will have to see).  The kind of guys that make fans think "OK, this guy could help turn around this franchise".  But Oden has that kind of potential. 

I think you could really market Oden, in order to sell some of the tickets that are going to be unsold at the moment with no KG and Pierce.  And even beyond ticket sales, he will just create a buzz around the team that isn't there right now. 

Of course, this also comes down to where Oden wants to go, but I think the C's have a strong case.  They give him an opportunity to start at center, but in a lower pressure situation, where they won't be trying to forcefeeding him minutes right away, or counting on him in an intense playoff race.  So, he can come back at his own pace. 

They also have a fellow Ohio State guy in Sullinger, who I believe has worked out with Oden in the past (not positive, but I think I saw something about that).  And even their new coach has ties to Indiana where Oden is from.

So, I for one am hanging my hat on this potential signing as, perhaps not a franchise saver...but it could be what keeps me extra focussed on this team next year.

I haven't read the entire thread yet, but I felt s need to support this post, very well laid out and convincing. I would add that Oden is a true center in physical stature and also brings better defense in the middle than anyone else on the roster currently. This is a huge need.  If not Oden then somebody has to be brought in for the starting center position. I strongly believe this.