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Celtics 15 man roster.
« on: July 10, 2013, 11:51:54 PM »

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PG:  Rajon Rondo - Phil Pressey - Nolan Smith - Jayson Granger
SG:  Avery Bradley - Courtney Lee  - Jordan Crawford - Marshon Brooks - Keith Bogans - Tony Mitchell
SF:  Jeff Green - Gerald Wallace - Tim Abromaitis - Kris Joseph - Courtney Fells - Omar Reed
PF:  Jared Sulinger - Kelly Olynyk - Brandon Bass - Kris Humphries - DJ White - Lawrence Hill
C:   Vitor Faverani - Shavlik Randolph - Fabricio Melo - Colton Iverson - Eli Holman

Who do you keep?
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Re: Celtics 15 man roster.
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2013, 12:04:04 AM »

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It's really hard to say right now, because I'm quite certain that Danny is going to shop Lee and Bass HARD over the next couple of months.  If anybody with cap space is willing to give us anything at all for those guys, they'll be available.

Right now, though, I'd say this is what I expect:

Rondo / Pressey
Bradley / Lee / Brooks / Bogans
Green / Wallace / Joseph
Bass / Olynyk
Sullinger / Humphries / Iverson / Melo

Joseph could easily be replaced with Mitchell, Fells, or Abromaitis.  I doubt any of them gets any playing time, though.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2013, 12:05:43 AM »

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basically rondo and a bunch of d-leaguers.

Re: Celtics 15 man roster.
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2013, 12:10:01 AM »

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PG:  Rajon Rondo - Phil Pressey - Nolan Smith - Jayson Granger
SG:  Avery Bradley - Courtney Lee  - Jordan Crawford - Marshon Brooks - Keith Bogans - Tony Mitchell
SF:  Jeff Green - Gerald Wallace - Tim Abromaitis - Kris Joseph - Courtney Fells - Omar Reed
PF:  Jared Sulinger - Kelly Olynyk - Brandon Bass - Kris Humphries - DJ White - Lawrence Hill
C:   Vitor Faverani - Shavlik Randolph - Fabricio Melo - Colton Iverson - Eli Holman

Who do you keep?

From Summer League team there is a lot of junk. Kelly is good plus Pressey. To comeplete the roster, I would suggest to sign Barbosa and Pietrus for veteran minimum, and maybe to see a chance for Monta Ellis

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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2013, 12:11:34 AM »

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PG:  Rajon Rondo - Phil Pressey - Nolan Smith - Jayson Granger
SG:  Avery Bradley - Courtney Lee  - Jordan Crawford - Marshon Brooks - Keith Bogans - Tony Mitchell
SF:  Jeff Green - Gerald Wallace - Tim Abromaitis - Kris Joseph - Courtney Fells - Omar Reed
PF:  Jared Sulinger - Kelly Olynyk - Brandon Bass - Kris Humphries - DJ White - Lawrence Hill
C:   Vitor Faverani - Shavlik Randolph - Fabricio Melo - Colton Iverson - Eli Holman

Who do you keep?

Just curious but does anyone know if we keep the rights to Kris Joseph, DJ White, and Randolph if they sign overseas?   Maybe we can bring one of them back later in the season once Danny trims down the clutter.

 I don't see the point in having both Brooks and Crawford, however on the other hand I could see Danny trying to showcase them early in the season as they both have good 6th man scoring threat potential.  Iverson could go overseas too.   Keith Bogans is pointless on a team like ours and he doesn't offer much trade value.   I could see him being waived. 

I still wonder where Greg Oden will end up.  Seems like it could be down to us, the Spurs, and Heat although I haven't read much about him recently.   

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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2013, 12:12:33 AM »

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PG:  Rajon Rondo - Phil Pressey - Nolan Smith - Jayson Granger
SG:  Avery Bradley - Courtney Lee  - Jordan Crawford - Marshon Brooks - Keith Bogans - Tony Mitchell
SF:  Jeff Green - Gerald Wallace - Tim Abromaitis - Kris Joseph - Courtney Fells - Omar Reed
PF:  Jared Sulinger - Kelly Olynyk - Brandon Bass - Kris Humphries - DJ White - Lawrence Hill
C:   Vitor Faverani - Shavlik Randolph - Fabricio Melo - Colton Iverson - Eli Holman

Who do you keep?

From Summer League team there is a lot of junk. Kelly is good plus Pressey. To comeplete the roster, I would suggest to sign Barbosa and Pietrus for veteran minimum, and maybe to see a chance for Monta Ellis

why sign aging vets that will take up roster space?

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2013, 12:13:58 AM »

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Out of this summer league roster, apart from the draft picks and Fab, maybe 2 of those other guys get invited to camp.

Zero proven centers.  One inconsistent 3 and one grossly overpaid 3.  There's is not a lot of NBA talent overall.

This is a lottery team, easily.

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2013, 12:16:10 AM »

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PG:  Rajon Rondo - Phil Pressey - Nolan Smith - Jayson Granger
SG:  Avery Bradley - Courtney Lee  - Jordan Crawford - Marshon Brooks - Keith Bogans - Tony Mitchell
SF:  Jeff Green - Gerald Wallace - Tim Abromaitis - Kris Joseph - Courtney Fells - Omar Reed
PF:  Jared Sulinger - Kelly Olynyk - Brandon Bass - Kris Humphries - DJ White - Lawrence Hill
C:   Vitor Faverani - Shavlik Randolph - Fabricio Melo - Colton Iverson - Eli Holman

Who do you keep?

Assuming no trades, everyone with a guaranteed contract for next season, plus Iverson.  If Faverani signs, he gets the last spot.  If not, I'd go with Randolph.
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Too many moves yet to be made to predict.  I think Brooks, Humphries, Lee, and Bass are all likely to be moved.  I think Brooks gets moved with Bass for a second round pick or two.

I think Melo gets cut or traded.  Probably cut.

Pressey makes the team.

PG- Rondo, Pressey
SG- Avery Bradley, J. Crawford, K. Bogans
SF- Jeff Green, G. Wallace
PF- J. Sullinger, K. Olynyk, S. Randolph
C- V. Faverani, C. Iverson

We might have to take back a player or two so call it 13 or 14 spots and maybe one more free agent like Austin Daye.

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I think Melo gets cut or traded.  Probably cut.

Melo is not getting waived so long as he has a guaranteed contract.  I'll even predict that if he isn't traded, we will see an October announcement that the Celtics have picked up the team option for the 2014-2015 season.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2013, 12:47:37 AM »

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Ignore the guaranteed contracts for now.  Assume any contract can be dumped.  I am just curious what 15 players would you like to see a Celtic next season.  You can throw in any vet min unsigned free agents.
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2013, 12:59:08 AM »

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Well, I want the team to be run intelligently, so I wouldn't cut any guaranteed contracts right now.

I said I'd go with Randolph for the last spot, but I might change my mind and go with a PG if Rondo will be out for a while.  I'd have more patience with Melo than I would with Crawford or Brooks.
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PG:  Rajon Rondo - Phil Pressey - Nolan Smith - Jayson Granger
SG:  Avery Bradley - Courtney Lee  - Jordan Crawford - Marshon Brooks - Keith Bogans - Tony Mitchell
SF:  Jeff Green - Gerald Wallace - Tim Abromaitis - Kris Joseph - Courtney Fells - Omar Reed
PF:  Jared Sulinger - Kelly Olynyk - Brandon Bass - Kris Humphries - DJ White - Lawrence Hill
C:   Vitor Faverani - Shavlik Randolph - Fabricio Melo - Colton Iverson - Eli Holman

Who do you keep?

Assuming no trades, everyone with a guaranteed contract for next season, plus Iverson.  If Faverani signs, he gets the last spot.  If not, I'd go with Randolph.

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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2013, 01:26:31 AM »

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PG:  Rajon Rondo - Phil Pressey - Nolan Smith - Jayson Granger
SG:  Avery Bradley - Courtney Lee  - Jordan Crawford - Marshon Brooks - Keith Bogans - Tony Mitchell
SF:  Jeff Green - Gerald Wallace - Tim Abromaitis - Kris Joseph - Courtney Fells - Omar Reed
PF:  Jared Sulinger - Kelly Olynyk - Brandon Bass - Kris Humphries - DJ White - Lawrence Hill
C:   Vitor Faverani - Shavlik Randolph - Fabricio Melo - Colton Iverson - Eli Holman

Who do you keep?

Assuming no trades, everyone with a guaranteed contract for next season, plus Iverson.  If Faverani signs, he gets the last spot.  If not, I'd go with Randolph.

'Pretty much concur with most of your roster.  I'd go a step further and say that I'm not a fan of Faverani's game and would prefer Randolph by far between the two.

The only place I'd differ is that I don't see the point of keeping all three of Crawford/Brooks/Bogans.   We are stuck with Bogans for a while due to the S&T.   So I would try to move at least one of Crawford/Brooks, whom I consider to be pretty redundant players.

I'd prefer to use that spot for a backup PG.   Or unload both and keep a third SF like Fells or Joseph who can swing to the 2.

So I might resolve it down to:

Rondo, Pressey
Bradley, Lee, Boguns
Green, Wallace, (Joseph|Fells|Abromaitis|Mitchell)
Sullinger, Bass, Olynyk, Humphries
Randolph, Melo, Iverson

(in no particular depth order there).

Leaves us thin at PG, unfortunately.   But I'm hesitant to take any of the other positions below 3 deep.

Obviously, trading some of the pieces like Bass or Humphries could dramatically change everything.
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Well, I want the team to be run intelligently, so I wouldn't cut any guaranteed contracts right now.

I said I'd go with Randolph for the last spot, but I might change my mind and go with a PG if Rondo will be out for a while.  I'd have more patience with Melo than I would with Crawford or Brooks.

Players get bought out of their guaranteed contracts every year.

Melo makes 1.3mil this season, cutting him isn't going to devastate our cap.  If you know Melo can't play and you aren't picking up his option next season, how is it intelligent to take up a roster spot with him rather than waiving him?  Sure I'd try to trade him but my understanding is that other teams have scouts and video machines.

Melo got dominated by career D-Leaguers, 1st year undrafted players, and NBA bench warmers in all four games this summer.  He rebounds less than guards.  He shot two entire airballs from less than 10 ft away and had three dunks blocked.  There is no reason to keep him.