Bynum headed to the Cavs

[hpantazo]

Anthony Bennett at the four alongside Bynum in the middle and Kyrie at the point will be a killer combination. So difficult to defend with that combination of skill-sets offensively. Just pair them with two spot up shooters.

You realize he just missed the entire season and its very likely his career is over right? I'll believe Bynum being a productive force on the court when I see it.

yea, this tweet from Mark Stein basically confirms that Dallas and Atlanta decided not to make Bynum an offer after meeting with him and reviewing limited medical information. They both believe the risk is too high. The cavs gambled on him because their GM pushed for it, the 6 million to him is no big deal.

I'm in the camp that Bynum is done. They would get more out of Jermaine Oneal.

"Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine about 1 hour ago
Neither Atlanta nor Dallas, sources tell ESPN, made formal offer to Bynum after their respective sitdowns with the former All-Star this week"

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[Mazingerz]

Bynum is just milking the NBA for some money before teams know that his knees are already gone.

Cavs gambling on this will bite them later.

[Who]

Surprised by Cleveland's off-season moves. I thought they were shaping up for another top 5 pick. But they keep on making win-now moves in a push to make the playoffs.

Feels premature. They better hope their lotto picks pan out.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

A waste. Cavs, have fun paying a guy to not play.

[bleedGREENdon]

Surprised by Cleveland's off-season moves. I thought they were shaping up for another top 5 pick. But they keep on making win-now moves in a push to make the playoffs.

Feels premature. They better hope their lotto picks pan out.

They want to the get their roster ready to show lebron he has a good roster in Cleveland to win with... Little do they know , i think he likes miami. Lol.

[LGC88]

Career stats : 11.7ppg 7.8rpg
Highest played games in a season (last 6 years) is 65
Playoff stats : 9.5ppg 6.7rpg

I really don't get why this player has so many lovers. He's an average good center like many other that makes too much money only based on his potential that never came.
Plus his attitude and a potential locker room polluter makes it worse.

Another 18mil in 2 years wasted.
As long as other teams will continue to be delusional, Boston Celtics will always have great future.

[More Banners]

Career stats : 11.7ppg 7.8rpg
Highest played games in a season (last 6 years) is 65
Playoff stats : 9.5ppg 6.7rpg

I really don't get why this player has so many lovers. He's an average good center like many other that makes too much money only based on his potential that never came.
Plus his attitude and a potential locker room polluter makes it worse.

Another 18mil in 2 years wasted.
As long as other teams will continue to be delusional, Boston Celtics will always have great future.

Hmm...pretty sure there were 'some times there' where he looked to be a force out there.

I'd guess that the Cavs are looking at Indy's success and solid team, and are trying to essentially use Bynum like Indy signed David West (2-year deal), and hoping it comes together.  If not, that second season...trade material.

But I thought Sideshow Bob was pretty solid at the 5 there, and should be available next year?

[syfy9]

Career stats : 11.7ppg 7.8rpg
Highest played games in a season (last 6 years) is 65
Playoff stats : 9.5ppg 6.7rpg

I really don't get why this player has so many lovers. He's an average good center like many other that makes too much money only based on his potential that never came.
Plus his attitude and a potential locker room polluter makes it worse.

Another 18mil in 2 years wasted.
As long as other teams will continue to be delusional, Boston Celtics will always have great future.

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=55120.0

Back when he was a healthy boy:

Andrew Bynum is the best center in the league right now, when fully healthy.



It pains me to admit it, but Bynum is the best center in the league right now. Here is why :

Bynum is a superior post player



If you have ever watched an Orlando Magic game, you'd be very frustrated with Howard's lack of post moves. While the camps with Hakeem has improved his game, he is not refined, unlike Bynum. He is constantly attempting his signature running hook and fade instead of lunging forward.
Bynum has a developed post game, with a good hook and a series of fake moves. He finishes just as well as Howard at the age of 24, 2 years younger than Howard. Just think how much he could improve with workouts with McHale and Hakeem.

Statistical wise, Bynum is just as dominant as Howard.


Bynum - 18.3 PPG, 11.9 RPG, 2.0 BPG, and 58.3% FG shooting.
Howard - 20.6 PPG, 14.4 RPG, 2.2 BPG, and 57.9% FG shooting.

On first glance, you can easily assume Howard is the better player. But take into account these losers :



Howard is not playing with an all star caliber PF in Pau and a dominant shooter (in quantity, not quality). Pau's presence commands at least 15 and 8, which diminish Bynum's numbers. Pau has been deferring lately to Bynum, but I see why. He knows his teammate is a top center in this league now. If you place Bynum on the Magic, he'll put up higher numbers than he's averaging now.
Another thing Howard does not experience in Orlando is Jason Richardson shooting 20+ shots a game. While Kobe is a piece of poop, he is still the league leader in PPG. Would Dwight's numbers be as high as they are now if the league's leading scorer was on the Magic?




Howard - 2.2 BPG, Bynum - 2.0 BPG

Also, if you want to argue that Howard is the better defender, that may or may not be true. Howard and Bynum are averaging similar BPG numbers this year, though Howard's presence is more powerful than Bynum's. Still, Bynum has Pau on his team.

If Bynum was on the Magic, he'd be better than Howard now.

I understand that I am making a very bold statement, but Bynum's post game and eerily similar numbers tell the story. The one thing that made me think twice was how Howard gets double teamed constantly and how Bynum would behave in constant double teams.
But then I researched a key term that completely convinced me that Bynum is the better center : free throws.

Andrew Bynum : 3.7 FTM, 5.4 FTA, 68.4% FTS
Dwight Howard : 5.1 FTM, 10.5 FTA, 48.6% FTS
 
This is it. Theoretically, your free throw percentage will not substantially change despite changing teams. Howard gets doubled constantly, which often results to hack-a-howard, due to his very low free throw percentage. He averages twice as many attempts per game as Bynum. While he makes more, he shoots sub 50%. Bynum shoots sub 70%. If Bynum gets 10.5 attempts per game, he would make around 7 FTM per game - +4 points. Add that to his 18 PPG average and you get 22 PPG. Then take into consideration how many more touches Howard gets than him. That's how dominant Bynum would be, at the age of 24.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=bynuman01&y1=2012&p2=howardw01&y2=2012

[LGC88]

OMG, Bynum pull up 18ppg and 11rpg in 2011-12 for 60 games. He must be some king of god!!!!

Most seriously, are you kidding me? What kind of stat is that. Look at all his previous seasons stats and his injuries.
One ok 2/3 of a season doesn't make him an all star or a future HOF. But hey, he's having that kind of salary and everybody finds it normal.
Sorry I stick to the facts and not the fantasy.
If I have to think like the guy who made this article, then I'm going to pay Oden 10mil next season. After all he was the first pick in front of Durant. He should be even better and deserve a max contract based on potential?!?!
Nonsense...

[Moranis]

OMG, Bynum pull up 18ppg and 11rpg in 2011-12 for 60 games. He must be some king of god!!!!

Most seriously, are you kidding me? What kind of stat is that. Look at all his previous seasons stats and his injuries.
One ok 2/3 of a season doesn't make him an all star or a future HOF. But hey, he's having that kind of salary and everybody finds it normal.
Sorry I stick to the facts and not the fantasy.
If I have to think like the guy who made this article, then I'm going to pay Oden 10mil next season. After all he was the first pick in front of Durant. He should be even better and deserve a max contract based on potential?!?!
Nonsense...

Um.  Bynum is an all star.  Played in it the last year he played.  And for the record, that season, you know the one when he played in 60 games was 91% of the season as there were only 66 games.  He was also just 24 and has basically gotten better and more consistent every year.

If healthy Bynum is easily the second best center in basketball.  The problem with him is he isn't healthy and probably won't be again.  But for 6 million I'd absolutely take a shot on him.  Especially for a team in Cleveland's position.

[kozlodoev]

OMG, Bynum pull up 18ppg and 11rpg in 2011-12 for 60 games. He must be some king of god!!!!

Most seriously, are you kidding me? What kind of stat is that. Look at all his previous seasons stats and his injuries.
One ok 2/3 of a season doesn't make him an all star or a future HOF. But hey, he's having that kind of salary and everybody finds it normal.
Sorry I stick to the facts and not the fantasy.
If I have to think like the guy who made this article, then I'm going to pay Oden 10mil next season. After all he was the first pick in front of Durant. He should be even better and deserve a max contract based on potential?!?!
Nonsense...

Um.  Bynum is an all star.  Played in it the last year he played.  And for the record, that season, you know the one when he played in 60 games was 91% of the season as there were only 66 games.  He was also just 24 and has basically gotten better and more consistent every year.

If healthy Bynum is easily the second best center in basketball.  The problem with him is he isn't healthy and probably won't be again.  But for 6 million I'd absolutely take a shot on him.  Especially for a team in Cleveland's position.

If healthy and engaged, Bynum is probably the best center in basketball (because, unlike Dwight, he's a two-way player). The problem is he's never really been healthy and engaged. Cleveland rolled the dice, but it can pay off big time.

On the other hand, if he's taking a 2-year deal with just 6 million guaranteed, his knees must be in a really bad place.

[boscel33]

If the C's were not rebuilding and had not traded PP and KG, I would love to have seen them make a play for Bynum to go for it.

[Silent Storm]

This means that the Cavs won't be signing Greg Oden, and they're one of the teams he has been considering. More likely that the Celtics have a shot at him now, potentially compounding a team full of question marks.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Surprised by Cleveland's off-season moves. I thought they were shaping up for another top 5 pick. But they keep on making win-now moves in a push to make the playoffs.

Feels premature. They better hope their lotto picks pan out.

This ignores their cap position next year. They can contend all they want this year, and still have a lot of cap space next year, since most of their contracts are either expiring or team options. I say this is the perfect time to go for it.  See what you really have in meaningful games before you make the big decisions on the direction to take the franchise next year.

[Fafnir]

Surprised by Cleveland's off-season moves. I thought they were shaping up for another top 5 pick. But they keep on making win-now moves in a push to make the playoffs.

Feels premature. They better hope their lotto picks pan out.

They're moving to placate Irving.