Celtics to sign Vitor Faverani...

[eugen]

Another useless player

How do you know he's useless already eugen? You don't know anything about him and have never seen him play/

I saw some videos on youtube. Personal CV is poor. Is so difficult to find in NBA a normal player better than him?

youtube videos don't tell you anything useful. I'm sure Ainge and the celtics scouted this guy up close, just as they did Olynyk and Stevens.

And what do you mean by normal?

Normal means not getting DW12 but normal players from the hughe free agent list

[LooseCannon]

Another useless player

How do you know he's useless already eugen? You don't know anything about him and have never seen him play/

I saw some videos on youtube. Personal CV is poor. Is so difficult to find in NBA a normal player better than him?

youtube videos don't tell you anything useful. I'm sure Ainge and the celtics scouted this guy up close, just as they did Olynyk and Stevens.

And what do you mean by normal?

Normal means not getting DW12 but normal players from the hughe free agent list

Faverani probably has the same shot of becoming a useful NBA player as Gigi Datome does.

The Celtics are unlikely to sign a free agent for much more than the minimum, so they're probably not getting a center who was starting anywhere in the NBA last season.  Naybe a Stiemsma-level center, at best.

[hpantazo]

Another useless player

How do you know he's useless already eugen? You don't know anything about him and have never seen him play/

I saw some videos on youtube. Personal CV is poor. Is so difficult to find in NBA a normal player better than him?

youtube videos don't tell you anything useful. I'm sure Ainge and the celtics scouted this guy up close, just as they did Olynyk and Stevens.

And what do you mean by normal?

Normal means not getting DW12 but normal players from the hughe free agent list

#1 the free agent list is not huge at all

#2 if a player is from a foreign country, that does not make him abnormal. How do you think teams got players like Manu Ginolbili, Pekovich, Ricky Rubio, Dirk Nowitzky, Tony Parker, etc?

[eugen]

#1 the free agent list is not huge at all

#2 if a player is from a foreign country, that does not make him abnormal. How do you think teams got players like Manu Ginolbili, Pekovich, Ricky Rubio, Dirk Nowitzky, Tony Parker, etc?

With you is very difficult to make debate. Every moment to defend DA wrong moves...Free agent list is enough to find better player then this anonymous Brazilian player.

Parker is one of 50 best players of EUROLEGUE of all time( offical listing of 2011 Hall Of Fame). Other guys like Pekovic, Rubio etc have been player in high levels in EUROLEAGUE with big European clubs. But for you EUOLEAGUE is no the field of competence where your information is minimal

[LooseCannon]

#2 if a player is from a foreign country, that does not make him abnormal. How do you think teams got players like Manu Ginolbili, Pekovich, Ricky Rubio, Dirk Nowitzky, Tony Parker, etc?

Through the draft?

Someone like Faverani is more likely to contribute at the level of other undrafted foreign players such as Pablo Prigioni or Mirza Teletovic, Jose Calderon if you are lucky.

[hpantazo]

#1 the free agent list is not huge at all

#2 if a player is from a foreign country, that does not make him abnormal. How do you think teams got players like Manu Ginolbili, Pekovich, Ricky Rubio, Dirk Nowitzky, Tony Parker, etc?

With you is very difficult to make debate. Every moment to defend DA wrong moves...Free agent list is enough to find better player then this anonymous Brazilian player.

Parker is one of 50 best players of EUROLEGUE of all time( offical listing of 2011 Hall Of Fame). Other guys like Pekovic, Rubio etc have been player in high levels in EUROLEAGUE with big European clubs. But for you EUOLEAGUE is no the field of competence where your information is minimal

What exactly is your point here? Faverani played on a championship team and on the brazilian national team. Referencing Parker being in the 2011 hall of fame doesn't help your argument, he was given that honor well after the spurs took a chance on him. No one is arguing that Faverani is going to be an NBA all-star, but he's not an "abnormal, useless player" as you describe him. He's a legit center with post skills and pro-league experience who can be obtained relatively cheap. He shot 80% from the FT line and 60% from the field last year, not bad for a center. We haven't had a center that can shoot free throws in forever. The NBA centers on the free agent market right now are not at all worth spending the money to sign them that they require. Another smart move by Ainge.

[hpantazo]

We should also be going after Myc Kabongo, another undrafted player, who has a ton of promise as a point guard. It would be great for him to learn from Rondo and play backup pg, a position we need.

[lightspeed5]

Another useless player

How do you know he's useless already eugen? You don't know anything about him and have never seen him play/

I saw some videos on youtube. Personal CV is poor. Is so difficult to find in NBA a normal player better than him?

youtube videos don't tell you anything useful. I'm sure Ainge and the celtics scouted this guy up close, just as they did Olynyk and Stevens.

And what do you mean by normal?

Normal means not getting DW12 but normal players from the hughe free agent list

#1 the free agent list is not huge at all

#2 if a player is from a foreign country, that does not make him abnormal. How do you think teams got players like Manu Ginolbili, Pekovich, Ricky Rubio, Dirk Nowitzky, Tony Parker, etc?

you named a bunch of players that were drafted a long time ago. Most euros are scrubs, and only these handful were ever good, the rest are like darko.

[hpantazo]

Another useless player

How do you know he's useless already eugen? You don't know anything about him and have never seen him play/

I saw some videos on youtube. Personal CV is poor. Is so difficult to find in NBA a normal player better than him?

youtube videos don't tell you anything useful. I'm sure Ainge and the celtics scouted this guy up close, just as they did Olynyk and Stevens.

And what do you mean by normal?

Normal means not getting DW12 but normal players from the hughe free agent list

#1 the free agent list is not huge at all

#2 if a player is from a foreign country, that does not make him abnormal. How do you think teams got players like Manu Ginolbili, Pekovich, Ricky Rubio, Dirk Nowitzky, Tony Parker, etc?

you named a bunch of players that were drafted a long time ago. Most euros are scrubs, and only these handful were ever good, the rest are like darko.

Ricky Rubio and Pekovich were drafted a long time ago? I think you will need to adjust your perspective that most euro players are scrubs. There is also Tiago Splitter, the Gasol brothers, Goran Dragic, and players that are highly touted that haven't even come over yet like Nikola Mirotic.

[tarheelsxxiii]

If Faverani chose (or even approved of) the music in that highlight video, he should be starting in the NBA.

Doesn't matter where. Just let the "Indestructible Man" have his way.

[manl_lui]

Can someone tell me what is the rule for signing foreign players?

If they haven't went through our draft how can we sign them? Is there an age limit, like you can sign anyone if they are above this age??

[hpantazo]

the drawback to the news that the celtics want to sign another center imo is that it indicates we are not going to get Greg Oden. My guess is he goes to the Spurs.

[Who]

Can someone tell me what is the rule for signing foreign players?

If they haven't went through our draft how can we sign them? Is there an age limit, like you can sign anyone if they are above this age??

I think it is 23. Once you are that age or passed that age, you are no longer eligible to be drafted. You automatically become a free agent.

I remember something like that when Memphis signed Cezary Trybanski a few years ago.

Edit: I looked it up. If you are 22 in the calender year of the draft, you are eligible to be picked. That is the final year you are eligible.

[LooseCannon]

Can someone tell me what is the rule for signing foreign players?

If they haven't went through our draft how can we sign them? Is there an age limit, like you can sign anyone if they are above this age??

International players (and you can't have attended a US college to be considered one) become automatically eligible for the draft when they turn 22, although they can declare for the draft earlier.  If they are undrafted, they should be free agents.

[LooseCannon]

you named a bunch of players that were drafted a long time ago. Most euros are scrubs, and only these handful were ever good, the rest are like darko.

I'd guess that Euros who come over as undrafted free agents are more likely to be decent contributors than American players that are drafted in the second round.

They often have a longer track record, so should be better scouted.  They are usually more mature players who aren't being brought over as athletic projects who need to learn how to play.

I'm differentiating between Euros who went undrafted and those who were.  Teams will often try to bring over a player they drafted because they already invested a pick in him and want to try to get something out of it.  Teams are going to have a higher threshold for who they want to bring over if they didn't draft him.  Since they often have to make a multi-year commitment to lure a player from a comfortable European setting, they are going to be more careful about who they bring over, less gambling to see if a guy can stick and more recruiting a guy who you see fulfilling a specific role on the roster.