Could a Rondo to Pistons deal be in the works ???

[RAcker]

The Pistons brought in Sheed to teach Drummond how to play in the post. 

Which means he'll be jacking threes, right?     Just having some Sheed flashbacks.

[CelticSince83]

I don't think the Pistons can trade their 2014 pick until they send the pick owed from Ben Gordon trade to Bobcats?  Just an FYI in the event that it becomes relevant.

[smiggity]

I think Detroit is a good trade partner for Rondo because you can fashion deals around Drummond (my preference) or Monroe, two blue chippers.

One of the problems I see is that there aren't a lot of other teams that match up well. The one other team I would look at is Charlotte, for three reasons: (1) they are looking to improve in the short term (see, e.g., Jefferson signing); (2) they are aware that they have trouble attracting free agents and that when they do they have to overpay (again, see, e.g., Jefferson signing); and (3) I don't think they are particularly shrewd.

Proposed trade:

CHA receives: Rondo, Wallace (post Dec. 15), Bass, and Lee

BOS receives: Kidd-Gilchrist, Biyombo, Sessions (expiring), Gordon (expiring), 2014 1st round pick from Portland, 2014 1st round draft pick from Detroit, 2016 first round pick.

Charlotte has been looking for a signature player for that franchise, and Rondo would certainly be that. Also, I think they'd be intrigued by a Rondo/Walker/Jefferson/Zeller core.

For Boston, that's a lot of assets and a lot of cap space.

[kozlodoev]

I think Detroit is a good trade partner for Rondo because you can fashion deals around Drummond (my preference) or Monroe, two blue chippers.

One of the problems I see is that there aren't a lot of other teams that match up well. The one other team I would look at is Charlotte, for three reasons: (1) they are looking to improve in the short term (see, e.g., Jefferson signing); (2) they are aware that they have trouble attracting free agents and that when they do they have to overpay (again, see, e.g., Jefferson signing); and (3) I don't think they are particularly shrewd.

Proposed trade:

CHA receives: Rondo, Wallace (post Dec. 15), Bass, and Lee

BOS receives: Kidd-Gilchrist, Biyombo, Sessions (expiring), Gordon (expiring), 2014 1st round pick from Portland, 2014 1st round draft pick from Detroit, 2016 first round pick.

Charlotte has been looking for a signature player for that franchise, and Rondo would certainly be that. Also, I think they'd be intrigued by a Rondo/Walker/Jefferson/Zeller core.

For Boston, that's a lot of assets and a lot of cap space.

Absolutely not. Either demand proven commodity for Rondo, or keep him. That's not some guy on the tail end of his career whose huge contract you want to shake.

[clover]

How about the Hawks or the Bucks (whoever doesn't end up with Teague) or Dallas?

[Texstyles]

Seeing this current Pistons talk, Ithought I would bring out my post from a week ago.

I think a package of Monroe and Knight is a good starting point. I dont see detriot trading Drumand but I would like him over Monroe. I also think Det. would take Wallaces contract off our hands in this deal.

[Atzar]

I think Detroit is a good trade partner for Rondo because you can fashion deals around Drummond (my preference) or Monroe, two blue chippers.

One of the problems I see is that there aren't a lot of other teams that match up well. The one other team I would look at is Charlotte, for three reasons: (1) they are looking to improve in the short term (see, e.g., Jefferson signing); (2) they are aware that they have trouble attracting free agents and that when they do they have to overpay (again, see, e.g., Jefferson signing); and (3) I don't think they are particularly shrewd.

Proposed trade:

CHA receives: Rondo, Wallace (post Dec. 15), Bass, and Lee

BOS receives: Kidd-Gilchrist, Biyombo, Sessions (expiring), Gordon (expiring), 2014 1st round pick from Portland, 2014 1st round draft pick from Detroit, 2016 first round pick.

Charlotte has been looking for a signature player for that franchise, and Rondo would certainly be that. Also, I think they'd be intrigued by a Rondo/Walker/Jefferson/Zeller core.

For Boston, that's a lot of assets and a lot of cap space.

Absolutely not. Either demand proven commodity for Rondo, or keep him. That's not some guy on the tail end of his career whose huge contract you want to shake.

Really?  That's an insane amount of value for Rondo.  Three  valuable firsts, two young players with intriguing skillsets and upside, and two expiring contracts attached to non-awful players?  And you shed all of that salary?

If Charlotte is dumb enough to do that trade, you take it and run away. 

[European NBA fan]

I think Detroit is a good trade partner for Rondo because you can fashion deals around Drummond (my preference) or Monroe, two blue chippers.

One of the problems I see is that there aren't a lot of other teams that match up well. The one other team I would look at is Charlotte, for three reasons: (1) they are looking to improve in the short term (see, e.g., Jefferson signing); (2) they are aware that they have trouble attracting free agents and that when they do they have to overpay (again, see, e.g., Jefferson signing); and (3) I don't think they are particularly shrewd.

Proposed trade:

CHA receives: Rondo, Wallace (post Dec. 15), Bass, and Lee

BOS receives: Kidd-Gilchrist, Biyombo, Sessions (expiring), Gordon (expiring), 2014 1st round pick from Portland, 2014 1st round draft pick from Detroit, 2016 first round pick.

Charlotte has been looking for a signature player for that franchise, and Rondo would certainly be that. Also, I think they'd be intrigued by a Rondo/Walker/Jefferson/Zeller core.

For Boston, that's a lot of assets and a lot of cap space.

Absolutely not. Either demand proven commodity for Rondo, or keep him. That's not some guy on the tail end of his career whose huge contract you want to shake.

Really?  That's an insane amount of value for Rondo.  Three  valuable firsts, two young players with intriguing skillsets and upside, and two expiring contracts attached to non-awful players?  And you shed all of that salary?

If Charlotte is dumb enough to do that trade, you take it and run away.

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There are too many trade suggestions that doesn't take into account that Rondo is a building block for a contender. He is the kind of player, you put together with other (all) stars to make a great team. With a trade like this, the Celtics would go from one to zero building blocks.
Green, Sullinger, Olynyk and Bradley all still have upside and might become top 25 players in the league (like Rondo), but I wouldn't bet on it. The same goes for the talent, that we would get from Charlotte in this deal.
And the picks would not be that great either. Both Charlotte and Detroit are looking to get into the playoffs, and this trade would probably get the Bobcats there. A starting five of Rondo, Henderson (if he stays), Wallace, Bass and Jefferson looks like an above .500 team. 

[e4sym0de]

I Love Rondo and really hope we keep him but I would do the Charlotte trade.
 
May I ask why it is MKG and not Kemba Walka? Maybe the question is dumb but we would have 2 SF with MKG/Green and they would have 2PG with Rondo/Walker..

[Celtics4ever]

I prefer to keep RR but I would trade him if we got the right deal.   He is going to be helpful but a lot of his gaming was predicated about getting the ball to shooters.   We don't have shooters anymore.

[moiso]

I think Detroit is a good trade partner for Rondo because you can fashion deals around Drummond (my preference) or Monroe, two blue chippers.

One of the problems I see is that there aren't a lot of other teams that match up well. The one other team I would look at is Charlotte, for three reasons: (1) they are looking to improve in the short term (see, e.g., Jefferson signing); (2) they are aware that they have trouble attracting free agents and that when they do they have to overpay (again, see, e.g., Jefferson signing); and (3) I don't think they are particularly shrewd.

Proposed trade:

CHA receives: Rondo, Wallace (post Dec. 15), Bass, and Lee

BOS receives: Kidd-Gilchrist, Biyombo, Sessions (expiring), Gordon (expiring), 2014 1st round pick from Portland, 2014 1st round draft pick from Detroit, 2016 first round pick.

Charlotte has been looking for a signature player for that franchise, and Rondo would certainly be that. Also, I think they'd be intrigued by a Rondo/Walker/Jefferson/Zeller core.

For Boston, that's a lot of assets and a lot of cap space.

Absolutely not. Either demand proven commodity for Rondo, or keep him. That's not some guy on the tail end of his career whose huge contract you want to shake.

Really?  That's an insane amount of value for Rondo.  Three  valuable firsts, two young players with intriguing skillsets and upside, and two expiring contracts attached to non-awful players?  And you shed all of that salary?

If Charlotte is dumb enough to do that trade, you take it and run away.

´

There are too many trade suggestions that doesn't take into account that Rondo is a building block for a contender. He is the kind of player, you put together with other (all) stars to make a great team. With a trade like this, the Celtics would go from one to zero building blocks.
Green, Sullinger, Olynyk and Bradley all still have upside and might become top 25 players in the league (like Rondo), but I wouldn't bet on it. The same goes for the talent, that we would get from Charlotte in this deal.
And the picks would not be that great either. Both Charlotte and Detroit are looking to get into the playoffs, and this trade would probably get the Bobcats there. A starting five of Rondo, Henderson (if he stays), Wallace, Bass and Jefferson looks like an above .500 team.

i pretty much agree with the "one to zero" part.  I doubt that Bobcats team is a .500 team though.

[Moranis]

I think Detroit is a good trade partner for Rondo because you can fashion deals around Drummond (my preference) or Monroe, two blue chippers.

One of the problems I see is that there aren't a lot of other teams that match up well. The one other team I would look at is Charlotte, for three reasons: (1) they are looking to improve in the short term (see, e.g., Jefferson signing); (2) they are aware that they have trouble attracting free agents and that when they do they have to overpay (again, see, e.g., Jefferson signing); and (3) I don't think they are particularly shrewd.

Proposed trade:

CHA receives: Rondo, Wallace (post Dec. 15), Bass, and Lee

BOS receives: Kidd-Gilchrist, Biyombo, Sessions (expiring), Gordon (expiring), 2014 1st round pick from Portland, 2014 1st round draft pick from Detroit, 2016 first round pick.

Charlotte has been looking for a signature player for that franchise, and Rondo would certainly be that. Also, I think they'd be intrigued by a Rondo/Walker/Jefferson/Zeller core.

For Boston, that's a lot of assets and a lot of cap space.

pretty similar to a trade I have been proposing for a long time on this board.  I think Ainge does something like that without giving it much thought.

[Atzar]

I think Detroit is a good trade partner for Rondo because you can fashion deals around Drummond (my preference) or Monroe, two blue chippers.

One of the problems I see is that there aren't a lot of other teams that match up well. The one other team I would look at is Charlotte, for three reasons: (1) they are looking to improve in the short term (see, e.g., Jefferson signing); (2) they are aware that they have trouble attracting free agents and that when they do they have to overpay (again, see, e.g., Jefferson signing); and (3) I don't think they are particularly shrewd.

Proposed trade:

CHA receives: Rondo, Wallace (post Dec. 15), Bass, and Lee

BOS receives: Kidd-Gilchrist, Biyombo, Sessions (expiring), Gordon (expiring), 2014 1st round pick from Portland, 2014 1st round draft pick from Detroit, 2016 first round pick.

Charlotte has been looking for a signature player for that franchise, and Rondo would certainly be that. Also, I think they'd be intrigued by a Rondo/Walker/Jefferson/Zeller core.

For Boston, that's a lot of assets and a lot of cap space.

pretty similar to a trade I have been proposing for a long time on this board.  I think Ainge does something like that without giving it much thought.

This.  I understand the one-building-block-to-zero concern, but this trade would free you up to do pretty much whatever you want.  Your roster is Jeff Green, young assets at every position, and expiring contracts.  You have tons of cap space going into a nice FA class if you choose to go that route, and you have a treasure trove of first round picks including four in what projects to be an absolutely loaded draft.

Any rebuilding team would kill to be in that position.

[guava_wrench]

I think Detroit is a good trade partner for Rondo because you can fashion deals around Drummond (my preference) or Monroe, two blue chippers.

One of the problems I see is that there aren't a lot of other teams that match up well. The one other team I would look at is Charlotte, for three reasons: (1) they are looking to improve in the short term (see, e.g., Jefferson signing); (2) they are aware that they have trouble attracting free agents and that when they do they have to overpay (again, see, e.g., Jefferson signing); and (3) I don't think they are particularly shrewd.

Proposed trade:

CHA receives: Rondo, Wallace (post Dec. 15), Bass, and Lee

BOS receives: Kidd-Gilchrist, Biyombo, Sessions (expiring), Gordon (expiring), 2014 1st round pick from Portland, 2014 1st round draft pick from Detroit, 2016 first round pick.

Charlotte has been looking for a signature player for that franchise, and Rondo would certainly be that. Also, I think they'd be intrigued by a Rondo/Walker/Jefferson/Zeller core.

For Boston, that's a lot of assets and a lot of cap space.

pretty similar to a trade I have been proposing for a long time on this board.  I think Ainge does something like that without giving it much thought.

This.  I understand the one-building-block-to-zero concern, but this trade would free you up to do pretty much whatever you want.  Your roster is Jeff Green, young assets at every position, and expiring contracts.  You have tons of cap space going into a nice FA class if you choose to go that route, and you have a treasure trove of first round picks including four in what projects to be an absolutely loaded draft.

Any rebuilding team would kill to be in that position.

First, it isn't a particularly great FA class because it lacks players of consequence who would consider a rebuilding team. You probably end up with someone who isn't even as good as Rondo.

Second, the team won't be able "to do pretty much whatever you want" because most useful moves require others to agree to them, whether it is trades or FA signings. History shows pretty clearly that bad teams get overpriced, underwhelming free agents. Wade attracted Lebron and Bosh. Harden made Houston make sense to Howard. Rondo is our best shot at a decent FA pickup.

On the other hand, I like the Portland 1st and the Charlotte 1st. Both have a good shot at the lottery.

[boscel33]

If you're giving me Knight, Drummond and a '14 pick, even I am probably not saying no to that for Rondo.

I don't beleive it can be a 14 pick, but I'm a yes if I can get Drummond and Knight, plus a future pick.  The appealing thing to me is the Detroit has cap space so a lot of the $ don't matter.  I like the Ian Thompson idea, Rondo/Wallace for Drummond/Knight/future 1st.