Why Not Give Gerald Wallace a Chance?

[86MaxwellSmart]

I don't think I've ever seen Wallace smile.

[goCeltics]

perk's ts % was around 60 % while he was here, when he when the okc it went below 50%

look at his shooting stats

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2018/kendrick-perkins

www.thenbageek.com/players/234-kendrick-perkins

ppl don't realise what rondo does out there, watch wallace suddenly become better

[LarBrd33]

perk's ts % was around 60 % while he was here, when he when the okc it went below 50%

look at his shooting stats

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2018/kendrick-perkins

www.thenbageek.com/players/234-kendrick-perkins

ppl don't realise what rondo does out there, watch wallace suddenly become better

... When you share the court with Kevin garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen... nobody is going to be paying attention to you on offense.  Hence the %.

[Fafnir]

perk's ts % was around 60 % while he was here, when he when the okc it went below 50%

look at his shooting stats

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2018/kendrick-perkins

www.thenbageek.com/players/234-kendrick-perkins

ppl don't realise what rondo does out there, watch wallace suddenly become better

... When you share the court with Kevin garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen... nobody is going to be paying attention to you on offense.  Hence the %.

he gets ignored just as much in OKC.

He's shooting under 50% in layups now and dunking at a very low conversion percentage for a big man of his length.

It's his knee and declining athleticism that have left him unable to finish.

[goCeltics]

perk's ts % was around 60 % while he was here, when he when the okc it went below 50%

look at his shooting stats

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2018/kendrick-perkins

www.thenbageek.com/players/234-kendrick-perkins

ppl don't realise what rondo does out there, watch wallace suddenly become better

... When you share the court with Kevin garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen... nobody is going to be paying attention to you on offense.  Hence the %.

guess durrant and westbrook are bums

[rondoallaturca]

perk's ts % was around 60 % while he was here, when he when the okc it went below 50%

look at his shooting stats

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2018/kendrick-perkins

www.thenbageek.com/players/234-kendrick-perkins

ppl don't realise what rondo does out there, watch wallace suddenly become better

... When you share the court with Kevin garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen... nobody is going to be paying attention to you on offense.  Hence the %.

guess durrant and westbrook are bums

Duh. You know why OKC was eliminated so early in the playoffs this year? They didn't have Derek Fisher, a truly great PG by LarBrd33's standards. He's the real reason OKC was so good. Now they're garbage. KD and Westbrook can't do a thing without Fisher.

[goCeltics]

perk suffered the injury prior to 10-11

after he came back from the injury at boston he was shooting 54%, after getting trade to okc the same year in okc he was shooting it droped 50 points to 49%

ppl don't realise the value of a pass first pg, would rather watch deron/westbrook types that shot alot.

[LarBrd33]

perk's ts % was around 60 % while he was here, when he when the okc it went below 50%

look at his shooting stats

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2018/kendrick-perkins

www.thenbageek.com/players/234-kendrick-perkins

ppl don't realise what rondo does out there, watch wallace suddenly become better

... When you share the court with Kevin garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen... nobody is going to be paying attention to you on offense.  Hence the %.

guess durrant and westbrook are bums

Duh. You know why OKC was eliminated so early in the playoffs this year? They didn't have Derek Fisher, a truly great PG by LarBrd33's standards. He's the real reason OKC was so good. Now they're garbage. KD and Westbrook can't do a thing without Fisher.

Stop running your mouth with lies.  I've already explained my Fisher comment to you:  http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=66360.msg1511599#msg1511599  If you insist on being dense, don't be using my name in the streets.  My name is my name.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itCPGm2W1fE

[Ogaju]

So...I've got a bone to pick with many other posters on here who already want Wallace dealt, and he isn't even technically a Celtic yet.

Why not give the guy a chance?

Ok, so he's owed 30 million over 3 years. AND? What was Wallace suppose to do? Turn the money down because in year 2 of the 4 year deal, he might get dealt to Boston and it might upset fans on Celtics Blog.com?

If Brooklyn wanted to give him the money, that's their issue.

Already, I am seeing suggestions that Wallace should be dealt for anything and everything under the sun

Let's give the guy a chance. He hasn't even played one game as a Celtics yet. For all we know, he could be pretty good and was good in his days with Charlotte.

Also, he's just 30 years old. Courtney Lee and Brandon Bass are under equally bad contracts  and they both suck. Why is no one criticizing them?

because he does not drink Tanqueray and the Celtics are in TANKmode.

[EJPLAYA]

If there was a deal to clear him for nothing, you have to do it.  Cap space / a trade exception is likely more valuable than anything we got in trade.

I appreciate Wallace's career, but his year last season was atrocious.  7.7 points on 39.7% shooting, with mediocre rebounding and defense.  I understand the argument that his value can only improve, but that's not always the case.

Are we making the same statement then about Avery Bradley? He scored 9.2 pts per game on 40.2% shooting. Not a whole lot different numbers. In fact if you look at the PER stats, Avery's 8.89 is a lot worse than Wallace's 11.58. Are we running him out on a rail or looking at other things he does well that might be a reason to give him a shot?

For that matter, Humphries had 5.8 pts and 5.6 boards on 44.5% shooting in only 18 minutes PT with a 13.67 per. Maybe he could actually provide something to the team. (That being said I am likely on board with trading Rondo and tanking to have a good shot at Wiggins so I don't know I want either one helping us win games)

[Roy H.]

If there was a deal to clear him for nothing, you have to do it.  Cap space / a trade exception is likely more valuable than anything we got in trade.

I appreciate Wallace's career, but his year last season was atrocious.  7.7 points on 39.7% shooting, with mediocre rebounding and defense.  I understand the argument that his value can only improve, but that's not always the case.

Are we making the same statement then about Avery Bradley? He scored 9.2 pts per game on 40.2% shooting. Not a whole lot different numbers. In fact if you look at the PER stats, Avery's 8.89 is a lot worse than Wallace's 11.58. Are we running him out on a rail or looking at other things he does well that might be a reason to give him a shot?

Geez, talk about apples and oranges.

Avery Bradley is 22 years old.  He's scheduled to make $2.5 million.  Most importantly, he's an elite defender, one of the top 10 in the league.

Gerald Wallace is 31 years old (or will be in two weeks).  He's scheduled to make $10+ million.  He's no longer an elite defender, and his offensive production has declined for four straight seasons.

You see those two players as being comparable?

[CelticsFan9]

I'm still really mad Danny took on Wallace's contract.

[merkins]

Its impossible to say as of now but we may have sold high on Pierce/KG and bought low on Wallace/Hump.  How will Kidd, a new coach, integrate those pieces?

Much like many of the other superteams that have been brought together in offseasons, it will likely take 25 games at least for them to find a rhythm.  Maybe it wont happen until after mid season or even at all.  One KG injury and this trade will favor the C's greatly.

Besides, expectations for the new ex-Nets will be relatively low.  All they need to do is play well enough to entice trade interest an they will have served a purpose in making this team better in the long run.

[jaketwice]

I see Wallace as the player that most likely poses a threat to Coach Stevens. (Still can't believe the Celtics' coach is a guy called "Brad Stevens".)

He's a guy that plays the position that the second best (arguably) player on our team - Jeff Green plays, has been in a lot of NBA situations, and has zero future on the team. It's easy to imagine him both having an ego, and thinking he knows better than some young coach with no NBA experience.

But, on the other hand, Stevens is going to have to learn to deal with players like that - and Wallace is not a very important player. So if they end up having problems - whatever Wallace says doesn't matter much.

[EJPLAYA]

If there was a deal to clear him for nothing, you have to do it.  Cap space / a trade exception is likely more valuable than anything we got in trade.

I appreciate Wallace's career, but his year last season was atrocious.  7.7 points on 39.7% shooting, with mediocre rebounding and defense.  I understand the argument that his value can only improve, but that's not always the case.

Are we making the same statement then about Avery Bradley? He scored 9.2 pts per game on 40.2% shooting. Not a whole lot different numbers. In fact if you look at the PER stats, Avery's 8.89 is a lot worse than Wallace's 11.58. Are we running him out on a rail or looking at other things he does well that might be a reason to give him a shot?

Geez, talk about apples and oranges.

Avery Bradley is 22 years old.  He's scheduled to make $2.5 million.  Most importantly, he's an elite defender, one of the top 10 in the league.

Gerald Wallace is 31 years old (or will be in two weeks).  He's scheduled to make $10+ million.  He's no longer an elite defender, and his offensive production has declined for four straight seasons.

You see those two players as being comparable?

Just saying that his overall production based on those numbers aren't as bad as everyone seems to be making them out to be. They are acting like Wallace is Gabe Pruitt or something. He has solid assist numbers and rebounding for his position. He hustles out there... Avery took a big step backwards last season in his defensive production and his offensive numbers an even bigger one. Nobody wants to rip him over that slide. Just think Wallace is better than people are giving him credit for overall.