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Offline rondohondo

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I know we are all familiar with Danny's plan already , but he is working it to perfection right now .

Step 1 -
We got 4 1st rd picks(possibly a few lottery picks) for KG,PP and Doc. Set up with 2 in 2014,15,16,18  , and also having the ability to switch picks with the nets in 2017.

Step 2-
Goes out and hires a Great young basketball mind , who has won the most college games ever by a coach in his first 6 years. He is the perfect coach you hire for a rebuild. I mean he took a team with Mack and Hayward to 2 straight National Championship games.

Now he is going to get a chance to develop a top 5 talent in last years draft(Sully), a second team all-defensive player ( Bradley), The most efficient player with the highest per in college basketball last year (Olnyk).

Add to that we have a Great floor general in rondo , who knows what it takes to win a championship, and play his best on the biggest stages . Dooling raved last year how Rondo is the smartest player he's ever known.

Jeff green is a very versatile 15-20 ppg vet , who has great character and determination . That is a great vet to have for a young team


- we will likely have a high lottery pick after this year, especilly with Rondo saying there is no timetable for his return .


If we can add a Wiggins, Parker,Gordon,Randall to that . We are talking a BRIGHT FUTURE.

Step 3 - Even if not , we have so many assets that we could move for a legit big man . We have 9 first rd picks in the next 5 years

Aldridge has already let it be known he doesn't want to be in Portland.

Love might want out of Minny , because they have no shot at a title with those dumb signings of Kevin Martin and Budinger . That team is going to be stuck in mediocrity, not having cap flexibility , and drafting in the 15-20 range

If we can develop some of these young guys , we can send them away with Picks for another legit star .

I for one am VERY excited about Danny's plan and the direction of the franchise !


Offline bfrombleacher

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I agree.

Rather than thinking TANK, do 2008 again.

Do whatever it takes to get as many young ones as possible. Sucking is a side effect of developing/collecting young assets, not the goal.

Instead of us developing a superstar, let some other sucker tank and develop a superstar; and trade for said superstar.

Offline LGC88

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TP for the OP.
Love DA's mind. His plan is great.

Offline eugen

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I know we are all familiar with Danny's plan already , but he is working it to perfection right now .

Step 1 -
We got 4 1st rd picks(possibly a few lottery picks) for KG,PP and Doc. Set up with 2 in 2014,15,16,18  , and also having the ability to switch picks with the nets in 2017.

Step 2-
Goes out and hires a Great young basketball mind , who has won the most college games ever by a coach in his first 6 years. He is the perfect coach you hire for a rebuild. I mean he took a team with Mack and Hayward to 2 straight National Championship games.

Now he is going to get a chance to develop a top 5 talent in last years draft(Sully), a second team all-defensive player ( Bradley), The most efficient player with the highest per in college basketball last year (Olnyk).

Add to that we have a Great floor general in rondo , who knows what it takes to win a championship, and play his best on the biggest stages . Dooling raved last year how Rondo is the smartest player he's ever known.

Jeff green is a very versatile 15-20 ppg vet , who has great character and determination . That is a great vet to have for a young team


- we will likely have a high lottery pick after this year, especilly with Rondo saying there is no timetable for his return .


If we can add a Wiggins, Parker,Gordon,Randall to that . We are talking a BRIGHT FUTURE.

Step 3 - Even if not , we have so many assets that we could move for a legit big man . We have 9 first rd picks in the next 5 years

Aldridge has already let it be known he doesn't want to be in Portland.

Love might want out of Minny , because they have no shot at a title with those dumb signings of Kevin Martin and Budinger . That team is going to be stuck in mediocrity, not having cap flexibility , and drafting in the 15-20 range

If we can develop some of these young guys , we can send them away with Picks for another legit star .

I for one am VERY excited about Danny's plan and the direction of the franchise !

Step 4 - sell all good players, get scrap players via trades

Step 5 - Wait for 50 years to win a title with this "strategy"

Offline Boston Garden Leprechaun

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I know we are all familiar with Danny's plan already , but he is working it to perfection right now .

Step 1 -
We got 4 1st rd picks(possibly a few lottery picks) for KG,PP and Doc. Set up with 2 in 2014,15,16,18  , and also having the ability to switch picks with the nets in 2017.

Step 2-
Goes out and hires a Great young basketball mind , who has won the most college games ever by a coach in his first 6 years. He is the perfect coach you hire for a rebuild. I mean he took a team with Mack and Hayward to 2 straight National Championship games.

Now he is going to get a chance to develop a top 5 talent in last years draft(Sully), a second team all-defensive player ( Bradley), The most efficient player with the highest per in college basketball last year (Olnyk).

Add to that we have a Great floor general in rondo , who knows what it takes to win a championship, and play his best on the biggest stages . Dooling raved last year how Rondo is the smartest player he's ever known.

Jeff green is a very versatile 15-20 ppg vet , who has great character and determination . That is a great vet to have for a young team


- we will likely have a high lottery pick after this year, especilly with Rondo saying there is no timetable for his return .


If we can add a Wiggins, Parker,Gordon,Randall to that . We are talking a BRIGHT FUTURE.

Step 3 - Even if not , we have so many assets that we could move for a legit big man . We have 9 first rd picks in the next 5 years

Aldridge has already let it be known he doesn't want to be in Portland.

Love might want out of Minny , because they have no shot at a title with those dumb signings of Kevin Martin and Budinger . That team is going to be stuck in mediocrity, not having cap flexibility , and drafting in the 15-20 range

If we can develop some of these young guys , we can send them away with Picks for another legit star .

I for one am VERY excited about Danny's plan and the direction of the franchise !

Step 4 - sell all good players, get scrap players via trades

Step 5 - Wait for 50 years to win a title with this "strategy"

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LET'S GO CELTICS!

Offline lightspeed5

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I agree.

Rather than thinking TANK, do 2008 again.

Do whatever it takes to get as many young ones as possible. Sucking is a side effect of developing/collecting young assets, not the goal.

Instead of us developing a superstar, let some other sucker tank and develop a superstar; and trade for said superstar.
wrong, we cant just "do 2008" without tanking first.

Offline bfrombleacher

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I agree.

Rather than thinking TANK, do 2008 again.

Do whatever it takes to get as many young ones as possible. Sucking is a side effect of developing/collecting young assets, not the goal.

Instead of us developing a superstar, let some other sucker tank and develop a superstar; and trade for said superstar.
wrong, we cant just "do 2008" without tanking first.

Well, Al Jefferson was the 15th pick.

Offline rondohondo

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I agree.

Rather than thinking TANK, do 2008 again.

Do whatever it takes to get as many young ones as possible. Sucking is a side effect of developing/collecting young assets, not the goal.

Instead of us developing a superstar, let some other sucker tank and develop a superstar; and trade for said superstar.
wrong, we cant just "do 2008" without tanking first.
We are doing the same thing we did in 2006 -2007 .

06-2007- developing Big Al, Rondo, Perk, Green, Gomes

Paul Pierce missed half the year due to injury

2013- developing Sully,Bradley,Olnyk, Melo, Brooks

Rondo will likely miss a good chunk of the year , or have far less mins while working his way back .

We get in the lottery . With any luck, and we are do some, we end up with a top 5 pick.

We can either keep him as a building block , or move the pick , and our other developed talent and picks for a star or 2 , like we did in 2007.

Offline badshar

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Don't forget that he developed an average player in Gordon Hayward into a lottery pick.

So we do have a perfect coach in terms of developing players. Hopefully, he can do the same on the team too. He is a defensive-minded coach too (from what I heard,) so we're good.

1. Get a good coach who can develop talent.
2. Make sure the coach values defense.

We got the first two done, now we just need to get the third one done.

3. Get a good lottery pick (in our case, Wiggins or Jabari.)

Offline badshar

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I agree.

Rather than thinking TANK, do 2008 again.

Do whatever it takes to get as many young ones as possible. Sucking is a side effect of developing/collecting young assets, not the goal.

Instead of us developing a superstar, let some other sucker tank and develop a superstar; and trade for said superstar.
wrong, we cant just "do 2008" without tanking first.
We are doing the same thing we did in 2006 -2007 .

06-2007- developing Big Al, Rondo, Perk, Green, Gomes

Paul Pierce missed half the year due to injury

2013- developing Sully,Bradley,Olnyk, Melo, Brooks

Rondo will likely miss a good chunk of the year , or have far less mins while working his way back .

We get in the lottery . With any luck, and we are do some, we end up with a top 5 pick.

We can either keep him as a building block , or move the pick , and our other developed talent and picks for a star or 2 , like we did in 2007.
While I have been telling many people the exact same thing, I have been wondering to myself.

There is no supersonics who are rebuilding with Durant who want to get rid of their superstar in Ray Allen.

There is no timberwolves with a GM who had a very successful career with the Celtics and is also friends with Danny Ainge and wants to help them out by giving his superstar to them.

Even if we do build a superteam, we will have to battle tons of them that have risen since 2007 and especially the Heat.

Also, if we do build a superteam and we somehow win it all this year, wouldn't it feel morally wrong to watch Pierce and KG finishing out their careers on a team that loses and most likely will be in our path to the championship? Meaning we would beat them in the playoffs and then win?

I don't know about you guys, but I would feel awful and that championship or the season would have absolutely NO value to me. To be honest, the only year I want to win is either after KG and Pierce retire or when they return to the Celtics for a final year.

Offline bfrombleacher

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I agree.

Rather than thinking TANK, do 2008 again.

Do whatever it takes to get as many young ones as possible. Sucking is a side effect of developing/collecting young assets, not the goal.

Instead of us developing a superstar, let some other sucker tank and develop a superstar; and trade for said superstar.
wrong, we cant just "do 2008" without tanking first.
We are doing the same thing we did in 2006 -2007 .

06-2007- developing Big Al, Rondo, Perk, Green, Gomes

Paul Pierce missed half the year due to injury

2013- developing Sully,Bradley,Olnyk, Melo, Brooks

Rondo will likely miss a good chunk of the year , or have far less mins while working his way back .

We get in the lottery . With any luck, and we are do some, we end up with a top 5 pick.

We can either keep him as a building block , or move the pick , and our other developed talent and picks for a star or 2 , like we did in 2007.

Yup.

Looks to me there is no "proactive" tanking.

Some teams have a worse roster than us even at this point. If Ainge wants to tank, he could easily trade Rondo and Green for more picks.

That would easily ensure suck-age.

In the non-tanking-rebuilding-through-assets hypothetical, Ainge would be using the lottery system as it was intended. A means to an end rather than an end in itself.

Sucking is a side effect. But it's conductive to rebuilding. Meanwhile, through many different channels, grab assets.

Offline chambers

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I agree.

Rather than thinking TANK, do 2008 again.

Do whatever it takes to get as many young ones as possible. Sucking is a side effect of developing/collecting young assets, not the goal.

Instead of us developing a superstar, let some other sucker tank and develop a superstar; and trade for said superstar.
wrong, we cant just "do 2008" without tanking first.

Well, Al Jefferson was the 15th pick.

And Jeff Green was the 5th pick after we finished with the 2nd worst record.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

Offline #1P4P

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Will the assets that have been collected be valuable enough to get a star player?

Pierce, KG, and Terry's departure frees up 35 shots for the players on the roster. If a player(s) can take advantage of that to average 15+ PPG, they're going to become a valuable asset for that trade.

What team would be open to trading their star player for those assets?

Unless the C's get a top 5 draft pick, they should seriously consider packaging it for a Lamarcus Aldridge or Kevin Love.

Offline LilRip

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I know we are all familiar with Danny's plan already , but he is working it to perfection right now .

Step 1 -
We got 4 1st rd picks(possibly a few lottery picks) for KG,PP and Doc. Set up with 2 in 2014,15,16,18  , and also having the ability to switch picks with the nets in 2017.

Step 2-
Goes out and hires a Great young basketball mind , who has won the most college games ever by a coach in his first 6 years. He is the perfect coach you hire for a rebuild. I mean he took a team with Mack and Hayward to 2 straight National Championship games.

Now he is going to get a chance to develop a top 5 talent in last years draft(Sully), a second team all-defensive player ( Bradley), The most efficient player with the highest per in college basketball last year (Olnyk).

Add to that we have a Great floor general in rondo , who knows what it takes to win a championship, and play his best on the biggest stages . Dooling raved last year how Rondo is the smartest player he's ever known.

Jeff green is a very versatile 15-20 ppg vet , who has great character and determination . That is a great vet to have for a young team


- we will likely have a high lottery pick after this year, especilly with Rondo saying there is no timetable for his return .


If we can add a Wiggins, Parker,Gordon,Randall to that . We are talking a BRIGHT FUTURE.

Step 3 - Even if not , we have so many assets that we could move for a legit big man . We have 9 first rd picks in the next 5 years

Aldridge has already let it be known he doesn't want to be in Portland.

Love might want out of Minny , because they have no shot at a title with those dumb signings of Kevin Martin and Budinger . That team is going to be stuck in mediocrity, not having cap flexibility , and drafting in the 15-20 range

If we can develop some of these young guys , we can send them away with Picks for another legit star .

I for one am VERY excited about Danny's plan and the direction of the franchise !

Step 4 - sell all good players, get scrap players via trades

Step 5 - Wait for 50 years to win a title with this "strategy"

Or maybe...

Step 1 - sign or trade for some mid-tier star looking for a payday

Step 2 - get bounced in the first round this year and draft a solid role player

Step 3 - rinse and repeat year on year to perpetually be first round playoff fodder because well have no cap space or picks to get significantly better

Step 4 - Fire DA

Now THAT is a brilliant strategy!
- LilRip