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Re: MarShon Brooks - steal of this trade?
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2013, 05:37:25 PM »

Offline Tr1boy

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Brooks going to be out of the nba soon. He doesnt understand the concept of team basketball. He hasnt seen a shot he doesnt like yet. Someone compared him to a taller jcrawford and that might be true. I was happy we were going to get shengalia and evans and instead brooklyn gave us most of their leftovers instead.

Re: MarShon Brooks - steal of this trade?
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2013, 05:38:33 PM »

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I think that with the new CBA, there are certain types of players that are good but you just flat out can't have on your roster if you are serious about a championship.  Even if someone he is useful for us, he will want to get paid by the time we actually need him and there is no way he won't get more than he's worth from somebody.  It will basically just pull the rug out from under us.

If he could play D at a higher level or if he could hit the 3 it would be great, but he's good at all the wrong things.

Re: MarShon Brooks - steal of this trade?
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2013, 05:45:07 PM »

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He is a nice addition due to potential. I think (assuming Lee gets traded) he and Crawford battle it out for the 3rd guard spot in the rotation. The winner may develop some value in the league but both need to improve IQ and overall game.

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I realize that Lee is as good as gone. We actually traded for Jordan Crawford last year who was a very capable scorer in Washington and he got pretty important minutes with us. Brooks should pretty much be playing the same role - who gets the Jamal Crawford 6th man role?

I really wanted to see what Courtney had to offer, but with his contract, our plethora of sgs, his ability to contribute to other teams, and his falling out favor in the playoffs, I am not sure I see him on our roster come Nov.

Re: MarShon Brooks - steal of this trade?
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2013, 06:11:22 PM »

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To some of the detractors of Brooks, since when does being a knucklehead prevent you from being a winner?

Ron Artest, Birdman, Rodman, Stephen Jackson, Rasheed Wallace, etc.
The list goes on and on

Re: MarShon Brooks - steal of this trade?
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2013, 06:17:56 PM »

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To some of the detractors of Brooks, since when does being a knucklehead prevent you from being a winner?

Ron Artest, Birdman, Rodman, Stephen Jackson, Rasheed Wallace, etc.
The list goes on and on

Correct. Almost all of my favorite players are stratifying figures. I think the best leaders are naturally matured knuckleheads and people who get into scuffles a lot.

Re: MarShon Brooks - steal of this trade?
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2013, 06:20:14 PM »

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I think Brooks has gone from overrated to a bit underrated. His flaws are well known, but there is a place for 6'5" SGs with long arms that can score and create their own shot. He has serious defensive potential with that kind of length as well.

I think his ceiling is an above-average starter, floor is 10th man gunner, and with a little player development could be a solid rotation guy. It all depends on:

1) Playing above-average defense (which he has all the tools for)
2) Maturing as a player, i.e. becoming coachable

Both reachable goals, and considering he almost wasn't in this trade I'll take it.

I don't have much hope for brooks, but you basic points are good ones. If if if brooks can be open to expanding his game he could be a good player for the celtics. But off the bench I think.

Who knows? Now with stevens as coach maybe brooks will finally be ready to learn and grow.

We can all dream.  :)
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Re: MarShon Brooks - steal of this trade?
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2013, 06:56:54 PM »

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After reading a bit about our new coach, I think this may be the ideal match.  Stevens may be able to get something special out of Marshon.


And since he has Don Chaney ARMS why not get Don Chaney here to show him how to use those arms.  Great defensive 2.

Re: MarShon Brooks - steal of this trade?
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2013, 07:14:20 PM »

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"I think Brooks has gone from overrated to a bit underrated. His flaws are well known, but there is a place for 6'5" SGs with long arms that can score and create their own shot. He has serious defensive potential with that kind of length as well.

I think his ceiling is an above-average starter, floor is 10th man gunner, and with a little player development could be a solid rotation guy. It all depends on:

1) Playing above-average defense (which he has all the tools for)
2) Maturing as a player, i.e. becoming coachable"


This is pretty much what I'm thinking on the high end...

Re: MarShon Brooks - steal of this trade?
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2013, 10:16:40 PM »

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He is a one dimensional SG that does not have range in his shot. 


5th guard.

That is called a "reality slap". 
Before a game on Christmas against the Pacers, Bird told Chuck Person that he had a present for him. During the game, Bird shot a 3-pointer in front of Person. Immediately after releasing the ball, Bird said to Person, "Merry F!#*ing Christmas!" and then the shot went in.

Re: MarShon Brooks - steal of this trade?
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2013, 10:19:59 PM »

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6. About to play with (unless traded beforehand...) the best point he's played with in his career in Rondo - a guy who can set him up all night.


I don't really agree that this is so clear.

Deron Williams is a perfectly capable assist guy.  He's a legitimate 20 points and 10 assists a night guy.

If anything, playing off a guy like Deron is easier because Deron commands more attention from his defender.

Only 37% of Brooks' buckets have been assisted, a very low number.  D-Will wasn't exactly setting the table for him, or any other guards on his team. Only 48% of Joe Johnson's baskets were assisted last season.  For example, when Rondo was healthy two years ago, 77% of SG Ray Allen's and 67% of Avery Bradley's FGs were assisted.

Rondo should help Brooks' offense big time.  Brooks is an efficient scorer near the hoop, but a disaster on the perimeter.  This is where Rondo getting him the ball in the proper spots is going to help him.   

Re: MarShon Brooks - steal of this trade?
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2013, 10:21:53 PM »

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Agree with the consensus that he's not the steal of the trade.

The steal of the trade was the slew of picks.

However I wouldn't call him a bust yet.